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Old 10-24-2013, 02:16 PM   #1
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Default 2015 Mercedes C-Class Could Make 500-HP in AMG Trim





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As Mercedes-AMG looks towards the future, CEO Tobias Moers believes that smaller turbocharged engines will be the direction the brand will head.

In fact, Moers believes that while naturally aspirated engines are truly iconic, their “time is over” in the marketplace with turbocharged engines providing both fuel efficiency and performance that are in line with AMG models. AMG’s first turbocharged four-cylinder engine is already claiming the bragging rights of being the world’s most powerful four-cylinder, and that powerplant will serve as the basis for the brand’s new 4.0-liter V8.
In elaborating about the potential of future powerplants, Moers revealed that he believes a C-Class with 485 to 500 hp is not entirely out of the question, and in his view, it’s acceptable.
As for alternative powertrains, AMG will have hybrids in its future, most likely in a hybrid application.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:19 PM   #2
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:35 PM   #3
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While I realize that they are downsizing the motor (which makes the feat more impressive) and talking about the run-of-the-mill C-Class AMG, there were already a couple of current/outgoing C63 variants that offered 500+ hp.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:13 PM   #4
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I would take an 09+ c63 AMG anyday and twice on sundays!!

sedan or coupe
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:47 PM   #5
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Wagon this time? Outgoing development pack, 507, and Black all have super-stout bottom ends... and they all sound sick, especially with some headers. Just not the greatest handlers.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:59 PM   #6
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They may not have had the knife-edge handling of the M3, but it was still pretty good. I think a lot of reviewers found the C63 to be more fun, and not just because it out-accelerated its competitors. But that engine won't stick around much longer, unfortunately. Stupid CAFE standards.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:06 PM   #7
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But that engine won't stick around much longer, unfortunately. Stupid CAFE standards.
On the flip side, if the 2.0L 4-cyl is capable of 355 hp / 332 lb-ft and they're going to make a 4.0L V8 version of that, it's easy to see the potential.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:12 PM   #8
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I'd rather see the rumored twin-turbo 6.2-liter V-8 that AMG was testing years ago... now that sucker would be pretty amazing. At that point, I wouldn't even care about mpg.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:31 PM   #9
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The E-class AMG's come with AWD is the new C expected to or will it remain RWD?
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:46 PM   #10
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I'd rather see the rumored twin-turbo 6.2-liter V-8 that AMG was testing years ago... now that sucker would be pretty amazing. At that point, I wouldn't even care about mpg.
Weistec... Rode in a CLK63 Black with their SC - awesome
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:54 PM   #11
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It's just a tarted-up C-Class. I'd rather have a real sports car.
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:59 PM   #12
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But it has one of the most renowned V-8s along with suspension/handling bits from the CLK63 Black Series... tarted-up or not, it has the goods.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:04 PM   #13
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On the flip side, if the 2.0L 4-cyl is capable of 355 hp / 332 lb-ft and they're going to make a 4.0L V8 version of that, it's easy to see the potential.
The turbo 4.0L V8 will be brilliant, but I don't think it will match the 577HP/664 ft.lbs output of the twin-turbo 5.5L V8 (M157) that it's also supposed to replace.
However, it should definitely match or improve on the N/A 6.3L V8 output; it just won't sound as good though.

Link to Autoblog article saying that the 5.5L twin-turbo V8 is also going away:
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/19/m...v8-going-away/
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:07 PM   #14
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It's just a tarted-up C-Class. I'd rather have a real sports car.
It may be tarted-up, but it sounds wicked.
You just don't expect such a deep/loud/snappy growl from such a smallish dog .
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:30 PM   #16
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I just hope that in person, it doesn't look like a Power Wheels version of the S, like how the CLA looks like a Power Wheels version of the CLS.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:59 PM   #17
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Besides fuel economy, the displacements are being driven by tax laws especially in China. There's a reason why you have 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0 engines. Daimler already has a 3.0 liter turbo V6.
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So if you take two AMG L4s and mate at the crankcase...do you get a 600hp engine?
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So if you take two AMG L4s and mate at the crankcase...do you get a 600hp engine?
I realize that was a facetious question but along those lines I will say: The M133 engine in the AMG A45 achieves 28 bar BMEP based on its rated torque and displacement. This has got to be the highest or among the highest BMEP achieved on a mass production car. A stock STi does about 18 bar peak. If you look at the current twin turbo BMW M5, the S63TU engine is doing about 19 bar peak. When you mount two turbos in the V for twin scroll capability, you have a huge source of heat to manage.
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Ladders. As children, we learn how important they are: even if you don't know who Jacob was or where he was climbing, you know how to make his ladder from string. If you don't want to be cursed, you know not to walk under them; and if you want to win the game, you know you need to avoid the chutes and climb the ladders. As adults, ladders take on more practical (if metaphorical) importance: if you want to rise above your station – to win the game of life, say – you need to avoid the chutes and climb the ladders.

It was the early 1980s when German automakers began introducing their aspirational four-wheeled ladders, and there are still three sedan Leitens to choose from depending on what you want your ladder to say: there's the C, E, S, the 3, 5, 7 and the A4, A6, A8. The point of any ladder, though, has always been to climb – the only reason you stepped on the bottom rung was because you intended to get to the top, or at least as close as you could muster.

That might change with this car, the 2015 Mercedes-Benz C-Class. It might be so good that there's no need to climb any higher.
Full article at http://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/11/2...-class-review/
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