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Old 06-13-2011, 03:02 PM   #1
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It's true that the original VW Beetle and Porsche 356 were designed by the same man - Ferdinand Porsche, but this car takes the link a step too far!
Designed and built by staff at VWvortex, the world's largest VW enthusiast website, the team was given early access to the next generation Beetle, due in showrooms in January 2012, and this is what they’ve come up with - a GT3 RS-apeing paint job.
The striking orange and black colour scheme is typical of the sporty Porsche and the words Beetle RS etched along its waist are certain to turn heads, but it’s the bright orange, 20-inch alloywheels which really steel the show.
Performance and mechanical upgrades have been kept to a minimum for now though, with the only major change a set of 14-inch Brembo brake discs.
VWvortex has said that it plans on waiting until VW actually releases the new Beetle before it begins working on any modifications to the engine, but has said expect turbochargers, a sportier exhaust and there’s even talk that a GT3 inspired rear wing could be making an appearance.
Details how much the Beetle RS will cost and when it will go on sale are still unconfirmed but this is definitely one we will be keeping a close eye on.












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Old 06-13-2011, 03:04 PM   #2
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I love the Porsche RS derived styling.
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:05 PM   #3
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Boy .. SOA never gives us any cars to design. I guess they are afraid we will put their designers out of work.
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:16 PM   #4
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Freudian slip?

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Old 06-13-2011, 03:52 PM   #5
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That's the exact kind of crap I'd expect from the VW tuner crowd.
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:58 PM   #6
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I rather like the look.

Proper fitment wheels and tires
Good stance
Great color scheme and graphics
Quality braking system
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:59 PM   #7
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it's just trendy BS that will look as dated as vinyl roofs in 10 years
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:05 PM   #8
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So they threw painted wheels, a decal package and some new brakes on it?

Very, extremely, meh.

I figured something that was trying to modernize a throwback would at least go the extra length and make it RR.
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:21 PM   #9
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I rather like the look.

Proper fitment wheels and tires
Good stance
Great color scheme and graphics
Quality braking system

Please define this term. And not the dictionary version, I know that definition. Millions of cars are sold with proper fitting wheels and tires according to Webster's definition.

I want YOUR version of the definition...
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:55 PM   #10
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The Beatle Ringo Starr edition. Awesome!
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:10 PM   #11
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what the heck do highschool girls and middle aged women want with a Beetle that looks like that anyway?
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:34 PM   #12
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This edition of the Beatle has wheels that steel the show?

Are there no proofreaders left in this world?
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:35 PM   #13
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I think it's geared toward the GTI guys as it more resembles a car they'd rather be driving instead...just a hunch outta left field. I don't hate it. I do like the new roofline over the previous gen, though.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:47 PM   #14
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At least call it the Super Beetle, give it a bit of homage to VW history, rather than trying to poorly scam a Porsche design.

I am unimpressed.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:51 PM   #15
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Terrible idea.

Lets say for a second its ok for the VAG group to cash in on porsche's RS moniker heritage. If they plan to release something like this it better damn well have some drastic weight reduction. That is kinda the point of Rennsport
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:30 PM   #16
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Did everyone miss this part?

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VWvortex has said that it plans on waiting until VW actually releases the new Beetle before it begins working on any modifications to the engine, but has said expect turbochargers, a sportier exhaust and there’s even talk that a GT3 inspired rear wing could be making an appearance.
This will be an interesting car. My only gripe is not matching the calipers to the wheels.

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Old 06-14-2011, 12:01 AM   #17
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Please define this term. And not the dictionary version, I know that definition. Millions of cars are sold with proper fitting wheels and tires according to Webster's definition.

I want YOUR version of the definition...
No stretch and poke, no improper offset. Pretty simple.
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The demographic for the Beetle won't buy this thing. The demographic that came up with the paint scheme will buy a 10 year old GTI and mod that rather than make payments on a brand new chick car.
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I think that VW has moved away from a chick car with this car.

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Old 06-14-2011, 04:34 PM   #20
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I'd rather see that "theme" done to the GTI or even an Audi TT.
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:19 AM   #21
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I think that VW has moved away from a chick car with this car.

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too bad nobody else has. The vast majority of males are not going to buy a new (new as in not pre-owned) Beetle for their own personal use.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:32 PM   #22
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Not from what the automotive forums showed when the design was released. I'm not saying that it's a masculine car, by any means. But it is no longer cute and bubbly, purely chick car / hippie throw-back. It's more along the lines of TT, as far as chick car.

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Old 06-15-2011, 01:55 PM   #23
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We're each entitled to our opines, but I personally think it looks exactly like the old new beetle, just stretched longer and with a lower roofline.
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I think it looks much more like the classic Beetle.. and I'd be far more likely to not slit my wrists if my wife decided to buy one rather than the previous New Beetle.


But I still hate VW for putting the engine at the wrong end. A modern day, $25,000, rear engined, 2.0t Beetle would be a fantastic car.



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Old 06-16-2011, 11:03 AM   #25
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I, too, don't understand why 'rear-engined' gets such a bad rap.

People chastize the 911 for it, despite that car's significant capability. DeLorean had some drawbacks, but that was more to do with the choice of engine, rather than it's placement. Supposedly there is a very small difference in the weight distribution between how the car was built, and how it would have been built if the engine were in front of the transaxle, rather than behind it.

Granted, rear engine placement it isn't quite as ideally balanced as mid-engined, but it is much more practical to work on, and to package the rest of the car around.

When Ferrari moved from the transverse V8 cars, to the longitudinal V8 cars for the 328->348 (and also 288 GTO and F40), and the Mondial to the Mondial T, it necessitated that the engine be mounted to a cradle, so that the engine could be dropped out of the car for service work such as timing belt changes that are vital to an interference engine, which on a Ferrari is no small expense. Porsche 911 engine service is both easier to do, and less often necessary to remove the engine to do it, comparatively.

And with new pedestrian crash regs, it allows the front end to still be low, instead of high and blunt in order to have crush space around a hard engine block.

While it may not be ideally weighted, but it still does put the weight bias over the correct wheels, as well as driving the correct wheels, and lightens up the front end for steering feedback. A Subaru's front engine isn't ideally weighted, either, but the trade-off is worth gaining AWD capability that requires the engine to be mounted further forward. There will always be other, more ideal, more focused, better performing, and less versatile cars, like Boxster Spyder for instance.

Any car can get crazy if ham-fisted drivers make mistakes behind the wheel. It seems that rear-engined architecture has taken more than it's share of criticism on that front.

I am a big fan of mid-engined designs, as well as front-mid engined, rear transaxle cars. But I also can appreciate a good rear-engined car, especially for AWD layout compatibility.

R8/Gallardo being mid-engined AWD, and Nissan GTR being FM-transaxle with AWD, are both quite complicated in routing torque to all four wheels.

Porsche Carrera 4, like the old VW Synchro before it, are comparatively simpler, and basically a reversed layout of a Subaru or Audi front-engined longitudinal AWD system.

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