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Old 05-30-2012, 05:26 PM   #176
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Words cannot express how freakin rad this build is. I think the entire forum and Subaru community has mad support for this awesome swap. We all have your back and are looking forward to the happy conclusion. Best of luck and may the Car Gods send all the answers and a smokin hottie your way!
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:37 PM   #177
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Words cannot express how freakin rad this build is. I think the entire forum and Subaru community has mad support for this awesome swap. We all have your back and are looking forward to the happy conclusion. Best of luck and may the Car Gods send all the answers and a smokin hottie your way!
I tend to agree with this statement.

Ben, this is one helluva build man, cant wait to see her buttoned up and running.

Any luck on the cluster issue or have you been down lately?
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:56 PM   #178
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Thanks guys.

I haven't been down, planning to go down this coming weekend for the first time and get some time to work on it. I'm going to try my best to truly get it into a rolling state. This will involve getting the harness in a permanent position inside the fender, centering the steering rack, and bleeding the brakes/clutch.

No luck on the cluster, I may try and work on it if I get the above finished. I also need to fix some exhaust leaks so I'll try and do that as well before I set it on the ground again. I have an idea on what needs to be done on the cluster for the STi one to work but not still not sure on the illumination issue. I assume it has to be the control module or a ground. If it's a ground I'll try and figure that out as well.

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Old 06-09-2012, 02:24 AM   #179
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Well, I made some progress today.

I ended up getting the fender lining back in with the harness seemingly in place. The rack should be centered, I'll have to double check it tomorrow. I actually may be able to bleed the brakes and bleed the clutch and pull the car out of the garage tomorrow.

Once I do i'll put the hood on and the bumper most likely. It's supposed to be 90 degrees here but it is much better than it being 30 degrees.

If I somehow accomplish all that the remaining obstacle will be the cluster lighting and a few odds and ends to solder. I need to wire up my neutral/reverse lights, airbag plug and abs sensors.

It will be ironic if the same weekend I threw away the photo of my ex from my car is the same weekend I "finish" the car. She is already in another relationship I found out...

But enough about WAPCE, let's hope I can get it going tomorrow.

Also, I installed my JDM B4 tail lights. A much better look over stock IMO, much cleaner. I'll take a pic tomorrow and post it up(most have prob seem them though).

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Old 06-09-2012, 12:06 PM   #180
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Gotta love how things arent always as described or shown like that babied clutch haha wish you luck with this project its awesome!!
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:39 PM   #181
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Keep charging man - a bit at a time is still a bit. Much better to start from an "improved" position where you have a choice to work on something else.
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:07 AM   #182
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Well, no touch down today. I am fairly confident in it tomorrow. Got the brakes bled and clutch bled, hoping i fixed the exhaust leak. Did a lot of random things that needed to be done.

Even though the pedal feels stiff I think I may need to bleed the abs so I may go have that professionally done after I finish just to make sure it's all good. I finished bolting together most of the front suspension components, torquing things to spec, putting in cotter pins, etc in hopes it would be the final time I do that.

I started to put the A/C lines in then re-discovered the line that goes to the firewall doesn't work with this A/C compressor. I think I figured that out before but it may have been before all the personal crap happened so I forgot. I am debating whether I should swap out my stock one and see if that works. The STi one will not work unfortunately. I will definitely need to figure that out because I am not driving my car around with no A/C, already did that for too many years haha.

Put the rear wheels on, the fronts are very close to going on once I finish a couple more bits on the front suspension. I'm pretty pumped to see it on the ground. It's always funny how low it seems once I put it on the ground after being up so high for a long time.

If I can pull the car out tomorrow I'll be pretty happy and I'll throw the hood on at least and maybe the bumper so I can take them off the top of my mom's Jaguar haha.

I'll snag some pics tomorrow.

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Old 06-11-2012, 12:09 AM   #183
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It emerges...



I finally got to pull the car out of the garage. I took it down the street once and then pulled back in. It sounds awesome, I'll have to get a couple sound clips up but I really like it.

I let it idle for a while to see if the fans would turn on but they did not come on so I need to figure out why that is happening. I can visually see I need to adjust toe inwards more on both sides and I think the brakes will need to be bled more but it stops.

If I can figure out the fan issue and cluster issue it will be a matter of soldering a few more things then I can reassemble the interior. I'm hoping I can do some remote troubleshooting and the next weekend I am down be able to finish it but I'm not making any predictions given how my stuff goes.

JDM tails, much cleaner look.


Finally Shane, here you go. The stance is good IMO, should settle a bit more and likely be perfect. In the very short drive I took the suspension was decently stiff but I literally drove 200 yards so I can't make any real analysis yet.


Now, with more scoop! Got the hood on. I am going to try and figure out a way to put the STi splitter surround onto the baja scoop if possible.


It's getting close, I'll feel much better after I shake it down and there are no issues.

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Old 06-11-2012, 09:38 AM   #184
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Nice swap man. Ive always wanted to this to my BE. About how much did it run you altogether with parts?
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:24 PM   #185
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Nice swap man. Ive always wanted to this to my BE. About how much did it run you altogether with parts?
That highly depends on what you choose to do and what you choose to leave out.

For example if you did a EJ207 STi swap those can be had for about 6500 but then need to be installed and you'd have to choose if you want to do Spec B rear axles to use the R180 or keep the R160 and sell the R180.

An EJ257 swap prob would start at 7500 then go up depending on miles and if you decided to add brembos/suspension etc. This is all assuming you do your own work.

In my situation I added quite a bit of stuff, in the end for what I got, I have a 2006 STi drivetrain with 29k on it, nearly new brakes, brand new suspension, etc. Financially, I would compare the cost to a used 2006 STi since that is my drivetrain and I definitely came out ahead of just getting a used 2006 STi with 29k on it because a lot of my components are brand new/low miles. Basically I viewed it as "buying" a used car to make my car more reliable and build something I wanted. There is something to be said for buying a factory STi though since I am not factoring my time into cost which would be a huge component. I do like to be unique though and do projects so a lot of the fun to me is building/fabricating and problem solving but it becomes a burden after a while.

My recommendation and what I originally planned to do, would be to get a baja turbo drivetrain and upgrade to a 6mt and vf39 if you want those items. That would prob put you in the 6500 range for the EJ255 plus 6mt which would be the best value for the performance IMO. If you can find a salvage manual baja turbo that would be even better.

Hope that helps.

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Old 06-14-2012, 11:19 PM   #186
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That's great, Ben. Glad to see it done. Mine is at 205K miles and the motor refuses to die.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:56 AM   #187
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I didn't get to go down but I ordered a new integrated unit hoping the one I had was bad and asked my mom to swap it out for the old one. Unfortunately the gauges still didn't light up. I am at a loss on this. Next time I'm doing I"ll have to look for grounds I may have missed, or maybe the wiring I did for the STi gauges is screwing something up but I only tapped into wires so I don't think that should cause the problem.

Apparently when my mom was testing it she also said the headlights went out... I'm hoping she just did something else or the battery was dead because obviously that isn't good if there is a problem. I really don't see how there could be because this is a brand new harness from bulkhead to front...

I'm at a loss right now, it's going to piss me off if this single thing ends up keeping me from driving it. Well, that and A/C because my heater/a/c controls aren't working but I didn't get to check that stuff out yet either.

I'll be down next weekend and hopefully can figure something out.

Any ideas would be great.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:56 AM   #188
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:07 AM   #189
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No real progress unfortunately. I did discover some things that may explain some of the issues I'm having. I'm wondering if all the Baja's had Auto A/C because there are definitely some plugs that my unit does not have in the back. I will need to do some research on this. I found that I did not have a plug plugged into the heater core, but that still did not make the fans work. There is also a wire unplugged that I think may be the key to the fans not kicking on but again I need to do some looking at wiring diagrams.

I am still no further on figuring out the gauge cluster. For some reason the integrated unit seems to be drawing power constantly. When it is unplugged voltage on the battery stays stable but when it is plugged in the voltage drops over time. This must have happened when my mom tried to swap them, it had been full then drained and when she turned the lights on for that brief period it totally drained it.

I am trying to figure out how I can either bypass or get it to work, there seems to be some wire for illumination that goes to the ECU? No idea what wire it is so I'll have to look that up as well.

Since I figure I won't actually see the car in this state for a while I decided to push the bumper on.


Looks good anyways, doesn't do much though haha.


Here is a sound clip of start up and revving. This was done on my iphone, I'm amazed at how much the high frequencies are picked up. It sounds so low in real life and inside the car but on the video the engine noise is almost louder.

I'll see if I can figure anything out tomorrow...

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Old 06-24-2012, 04:17 AM   #190
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Didn't really figure anything out, just getting frustrated.

I ended up clipping the STi cluster plugs off the wiring just to eliminate another possible source of problem and that did nothing so I undid all that work for no reason.

At this point I feel like it has to be both integrated modules are bad because I have tried the original stalk that I know was working before and it does the same exact thing.

I think what I am going to do tomorrow is find a way to temporarily hook up my old illumination control module and see if that makes the cluster work. If it does, before I permanently wire it in I'm going to order a NEW BIU and see if that fixes the issues. If it does then I'll likely use that but if it does not then I will have the option of just wiring in my illumination control module even though the whole point of getting the new harness was so I didn't have to hack it up...oh well the important stuff is untouched in terms of engine operation.

I hope I can at least get the cluster to light up SOMEHOW tomorrow.

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Old 06-24-2012, 11:55 PM   #191
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So I completely bypassed the intergrated module and wired up my old illumination control unit pushing some pins into the plugs. Even doing this it STILL does the exact same thing. I looked at the combination meter of the baja and legacy and they are the same(had already looked at them just wanted to confirm it wasn't just diff pins) so now I have no idea what the issue is. I pulled all the fuses from under the dash and looked at them and they are not blown.

This seems to say that maybe the integrated module is not bad I just don't get what could be the issue now. This is a brand new harness which is supposed to avoid these issues.

Unless the fuse block itself is bad somehow I just don't know what else to check.

WTF could it be? I'm about to burn it down at this point...

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Old 06-25-2012, 06:54 AM   #192
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No real progress unfortunately. I did discover some things that may explain some of the issues I'm having. I'm wondering if all the Baja's had Auto A/C because there are definitely some plugs that my unit does not have in the back. I will need to do some research on this.
No Bajas have auto AC. They all came with manual HVAC controls.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:32 PM   #193
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No Bajas have auto AC. They all came with manual HVAC controls.
Thanks, yea I figured that out after I posted. I appreciate the confirmation though. I found that my evaporation thermoswitch is unplugged, I need to get it routed slightly differently behind the blower to reach and I'm hoping that helps the situation but we'll see.

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Old 07-01-2012, 11:11 PM   #194
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So I got the gauges lit up, but I ended up having to do it manually. I clipped the A12 wire going to the cluster and manually grounded it and it lit up. For some reason 12v is on that wire and it should not be. So I am not really that excited about lighting them up because I didn't get a chance to try and figure out why I am getting power on that wire when I shouldn't be.

The next time I can work on it is in 3 weeks which is annoying as I wanted it done by now(not to mention a year ago haha).

I'm thinking I may try and change out the fuse panel with my old one if for some reason there is an issue with this one. I'm sure it won't be that easy though.

The only other positive thing is I did put the 2 green plugs together to put it into diagnostic mode and both the fans worked so electrically they work, but for some reason they werent turning on. One explanation could be that the coolant temp sensor is different on the STi so my cluster was reading it as overheating when it actually was not, or if there is voltage screwing up the cluster maybe it was off and the engine wasn't even up to temp yet. I'll be able to test this theory once I hook the Cobb AP up and do some logging.

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Old 07-06-2012, 01:04 AM   #195
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went down Tuesday evening but this is all I have to report...



I now officially belong here .

I basically spent the whole day cleaning the garage in 100 degree whether in high humidity to make room to get my legacy in the garage along with the salvage STi i've had sitting for almost a year under a car cover. Now I put the car cover on the RS.

The bad part is I didn't get to check anything on the legacy, the good part is I got a pretty sweet deal on this car I think. It has a bad motor but clean title and basically no rust. It is an auto but I'll probably DD it if I don't get my car going soon then I"ll just do a STi swap on the RS in a year or two. My mom also really likes the car, she said she wants one too haha.

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Old 07-10-2012, 08:45 PM   #196
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that black legacy looks good all blacked out
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:14 PM   #197
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Sweet build man. I have always liked that Legacy body style.
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Old 08-19-2012, 11:42 AM   #198
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I'm looking foreword to a basic parts list (shopping list) once you get it all worked out. A basic list of what you needed to buy to get the engine in and running would be awesome.
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Old 08-19-2012, 05:26 PM   #199
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I'm looking foreword to a basic parts list (shopping list) once you get it all worked out. A basic list of what you needed to buy to get the engine in and running would be awesome.
Yea sorry I still need to put that together. Your screen name was actually one I considered for a custom license plate haha.

I haven't updated this in a while. Not too much on the Legacy front unfortunately. I somehow managed to pass my CFA level 2 exam so that was exciting. The legacy has been sitting, been fairly busy and also trying to get the RS running to have it as a DD before I focus on sorting the legacy out 100%(I'm REALLY sick of driving a pickup that can barely accelerate and squeaks like a mofo).

I may have a pretty cool development soon, car related but not an actual car haha, stay tuned. I am hoping to get back down this weekend and labor day weekend to do some work on things and finish it up.

I will post back any progress I make.

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Old 08-27-2012, 12:27 PM   #200
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Well I went down this weekend, mostly worked on getting the RS running as a DD.

I started up the legacy just to let it idle and at least get to hear the sweet exhaust note. The car still warms up extremely fast, too fast for there to not be a problem. So I need to figure this out. I was originally thinking maybe the gauge was off and I did see that the baja and sti use the same sensor and the legacy uses a different one. However, I also looked at the ecu pinout and the voltage ranges are identical for both the temp gauge and the fuel level sensor(my gauge shows the car basically empty).

So, I have a couple possible issues to eliminate: A bubble in the system, a blocked heater core, a bad thermostat, or a bad water pump. The engine only has 29k on it but did sit for a bit but I wouldn't think those things would go bad. I'm hoping it's just an air bubble, however the top hose and radiator end tank get extremely hot very quickly and the gauge seems to reflect this. While it could also be headgaskets that seems unlikely since my original leak down did not show any issues.

I'm really hoping it's something easy like a bubble or thermostat. I'll be back down over labor day weekend and will trouble shoot it more at that time. I really want to drive it, once again the summer is gone and my car has sat the whole time...

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