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Old 06-23-2011, 07:10 PM   #26
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The AP can lock the boot loader as well, not just EcuTek. At least with the AP you can un-marry and re-marry at will. Both companies claim the feature was implemented on the requests of tuners at large. I personally hate the practice, but I understand the various business reasons that make it a necessity, or at least limit the shops' liability. Even so I tend to think the commissioned work belongs to the customer and the intellectual property rights does not remain with the tuner/shop.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:04 PM   #27
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A lawyer Iam not, I just like to get all the facts straight ...speaking of facts, Goodspeed can unlock a 16 bit Ecu that has a Ecutek flash...a simple phone call would have given you this info.
Last I spoke with Joe on the subject, there was a limitation on certain years of the 16bit ecus that can be recovered IIRC. Its been 2 years since i asked at the time to unlock an 04 wrx ecu for a friend, at the time the shop couldn't unlock it.
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Old 06-24-2011, 06:14 PM   #28
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A lawyer Iam not, I just like to get all the facts straight ...speaking of facts, Goodspeed can unlock a 16 bit Ecu that has a Ecutek flash...a simple phone call would have given you this info.

I just called Goodspeed to see if they can unlock a 16 bit ECU. I was told that they cannot do anything to the 02 WRX ECU. However, they were told by COBB that anything 03+ you can just marry an AP to it. He told me that they have never tried it though.

I honestly doubt that it will work. Here is a quote from Clark from this http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1942679&page=2 thread.

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ON the old 16 Bit ecu, You are scewed. You can remove it with the AP2 on the later 32 bit cars like the 05 STI above. But on your car with the 16bit ecu and the fact that it has the immobilizer, You will be forced to take the thing to the dealer and pay them for a NEW ECU. This is not going to be cheap.

I would call ECutek. They can remove it if you send the ecu in. They used to do this but recently they have been refusing.

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I also remember reading something from ECUTek saying that once the 16 bit ECU is locked, there is no way to revert it back to stock. I will keep searching for that, I just can't find it right now.
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Old 06-24-2011, 06:28 PM   #29
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I just called Goodspeed to see if they can unlock a 16 bit ECU. I was told that they cannot do anything to the 02 WRX ECU. However, they were told by COBB that anything 03+ you can just marry an AP to it. He told me that they have never tried it though.

I honestly doubt that it will work. Here is a quote from Clark from this http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1942679&page=2 thread.



I also remember reading something from ECUTek saying that once the 16 bit ECU is locked, there is no way to revert it back to stock. I will keep searching for that, I just can't find it right now.
Woww, so glad i have an 05, so you are saying that pre 05 ecus with a ecutek flash have no way to do anything other than ecutek from the same tunner on that ecu? That would be really ****ty
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:17 PM   #30
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No. What I'm saying is that any 16 bit ECU will not likely be able to be unlocked. 16 bit ECU's include 02-05 WRX. 32 bit ECU's include 04+ STI and 06+ WRX.

I know for a fact that if you took your car to one ECUTek dealer, paid for the license and had it tuned...then went to another ECUTek dealer to have it tuned, you would need to buy another license. I believe (I could be wrong) that if you had a 16 bit ECU that was tuned with ECUTek you could go to another ECUTek dealer.
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Old 06-24-2011, 08:11 PM   #31
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No. What I'm saying is that any 16 bit ECU will not likely be able to be unlocked. 16 bit ECU's include 02-05 WRX. 32 bit ECU's include 04+ STI and 06+ WRX.

I know for a fact that if you took your car to one ECUTek dealer, paid for the license and had it tuned...then went to another ECUTek dealer to have it tuned, you would need to buy another license. I believe (I could be wrong) that if you had a 16 bit ECU that was tuned with ECUTek you could go to another ECUTek dealer.
Ohh, that seems alittle better, I wish i would have done more research before getting my car tuned its just not realistic for me to be stuck with the same tuner who takes 2 months to get ahold of
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:56 PM   #32
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Its cylinder 4 near the turbo that runs lean. This probably won't be an issue at all with the mods you have.
Ummm, no.
Cylinder 4 is closest to the driver. Cylinder 3 is closet to the turbo.
From front of car facing engine:

3 4
1 2
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