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Old 02-26-2001, 07:20 AM   #1
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Thumbs up First Track event in the RS. Dodged a few bullets!

This last weekend was the first time I had extensive seat time in the RS at Texas Motor Speedway.

It was a good time, but I was part of an instructor's clinc which put me into a run group with fast cars. Like racing car fast. Panteras, Vipers, Vettes... the only other car in my group with less than 300 hp was a 944 and that was the only car I could get around! I spent as much time waving cars past as I was full on driving.

100% stock RS vs a 500hp Viper.
Not Pretty.

Everyone was wanting to know how the RS compared to an A4. My student was driving an A4 so I took a lap in it to refresh what a stock A4 was like.

The 1.8T engine has plenty of torque and could pull in 4th thru the corners. I had to downshift into 3rd to keep the power on. The A4 sports suspension is about the same as the RS.

The A4 tires suck, but the RS tires suck worse.

The RS shifter is worlds better than the A4. It was shocking-- I didn't know if I was in gear or in neutral. The RS feels like the shifter was machined into the car.

The A4 may have a more stout engine, but its several thousand more $.

Someone said I was lapping at 2:24. Compared to the 2:14's I was knocking out in a modded A4 turbo, that's a little slow. I'll have to review the tapes since out of the entire weekend, I got 4 or 5 laps without backing off to allow passing. I think I could have posted a 2:20 with street tires, maybe a 2:17 with race slicks.

The stock RS is very neutral car. The only limiting factor was the tires. I had one of those 'OhSh-t!' experiences coming into turn 1 at 100mph. I braked a little and when I let up a bit the rear stepped out at 90mph! I think I got 20 to 30 degrees out, but I was able to collect it. The car slowed a lot so I was in the wrong gear for the corner... downshift and go!

I did spin one, but it was pouring down rain and I hit some asphalt sealer and lost the rear, over corrected and went into the infield. With my student in the passenger's seat. Oops. No mud in or on the car, pretty uneventful for an "off".

Next up- R tires and 4 piston brakes w/ race pads.
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Old 02-26-2001, 02:39 PM   #2
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JP,
I've had mine out this weekend at Buttonwillow. First time ever on a race track with this car, as well as first time ever in the rain. I had a BLAST!!
In my rungroup was a Boxster S, A4, ZR-1 (with a BUNCH of motor and chassis work) 2x C5 Vette's and a slew of VW's and Nissan's. Only One other Suby, 1.8 awd with DMS and STI brakes 18" tires. Buttonwillow is almost 3 miles (in the configuration we ran it). I am SUBY proud to say, that NONE of them lapped faster than I did. The Suby was just Awesome! Everybody came over and talked about how fast it was, and how it was possible to out accelerate cars like a Boxster S, C5 Vette's and a well modified ZR-1. My reply.... "The beauty of AWD"
Hope to see you when I get back to TX!
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Old 02-27-2001, 10:51 AM   #3
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Next event-- in April. I hope to have wheels/tires and brakes by then.
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Old 02-27-2001, 11:36 AM   #4
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Andre,

Don't forget, it still takes the talent of the driver to extract all the benefits of AWD. I think you deserve some of the credit too.

Ya'll let us know next time you head for the track.

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Old 02-27-2001, 04:36 PM   #5
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We just had a great track day at Thunderhill...

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Old 02-27-2001, 06:18 PM   #6
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Whew--
SFsube- what was the Subaru dealer involvement?

I tried to get a group photo at Texas World... but I couldn't pose -and- take the photo at the same time.

There was another Subaru at the event, an instructor too. It was a 2000 Legacy L automatic. I didn't get his name, but said his wife didn't want him to take the BMW wagon (with track goodies). He said the Subie needed tires adn brakes anyway. I wanted to get in a group to see what lines he was taking. No luck.

Someday, there will be more than 2 Subarus at a Texas event!!
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Old 02-28-2001, 05:25 PM   #7
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JayP,
I should be back in TX in April, and you KNOW I'll join you!!
ChrisF and myself are also talking about putting on a Suby day at the Motorsport Ranch, sometime after they have sold a few WRX's.

Tim K,
Thanks for the confidence in my "abilities", but believe me, this was PURE Suby, and I have the Video to prove it
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