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Old 06-30-2011, 09:39 AM   #1
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Default OBP 05 WRX help!

I have a black 05 WRX, nuff' said right?

I just need help getting the swirls and light scratches out. I'm by no means even bad at this kind of stuff, I'm worse than bad. Absolutely no experience. Is this something I can do? Or something I should let a professional handle?

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Old 06-30-2011, 11:47 AM   #2
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This is a bit open ended but its important to build yourself a kit with the correct washing and drying gear so WHEN you have the problem corrected or do it yourself, you don't redamage the vehicle all over again. A good kit will be comprised of

Otherwise yes correcting an OBP car is something you can handle but I would strongly consider a portercable polisher and pad selection. Reason for this is that its all doable by hand but a polisher on such soft paint is going to give considerably quicker results that are MUCH better simply because of the "regularity" of the polishers stroke.

I can help you build both kits, but regardless of which you choose a wash, dry and protect regime is important before all else so you don't waste your time or money when correcting the problem.


Send me a PM if you would like and hopefully I can outline some more for you.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:35 PM   #3
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If you have the cash, get it detailed by a pro.
They can make it look like better than brand new.
But it's always good to learn new things and do it yourself if you're willing.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:52 PM   #4
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buy some collinite wax best stuff out
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:18 PM   #5
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How is wax going to remove swirls and scratches? You should stop posting if you don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:42 AM   #6
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How is wax going to remove swirls and scratches? You should stop posting if you don't know what you're talking about.

i actually paint cars for a very big dealership and do alot of repairs/ wet sanding/ buffing.. .so u are going to talk the op into what? buying a buffer and pads and compound?... ohh ok... sounds smart when he knows little about it could be more damage than what its worth... if u knew anything u would know a nice coat of wax.. especially collinte will hide swirls/ and light scratches trust me ive seen it work and applying/ removing wax is something anyone can do without skill ...
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Old 07-02-2011, 01:14 PM   #7
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I have a black 05 WRX, nuff' said right?

I just need help getting the swirls and light scratches out. I'm by no means even bad at this kind of stuff, I'm worse than bad. Absolutely no experience. Is this something I can do? Or something I should let a professional handle?

Thanks!
I would go with Mike's advice on this one (AutoAesthetica). If you can swing it, a good DA polisher (like the PC 7424XP suggested) is relatively safe, quite effective and easy to use for most (even novices as long as you can follow simple instructions and use common sense). There are also plenty of videos on the subject and with personalized customer service like Mike can provide, you should be able to get all of your questions answered.

Using an abrasive compound/polish is the only way you are going to reach your goal of actually getting swirls and light scratches "out". A DA will make it much easier but if you still want to do it by hand, it certainly is possible. OTC products like Meguiars Ultimate Compound and Swirl-X are decent performers via hand or machine.
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Old 07-02-2011, 02:30 PM   #8
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My response is to simply go online and read as much about detailing as possible from as many reputable sources as possible. This will weed out the good and bad practices and through this you will slowly learn what needs to be done before touching your paint with anything too abrasive. A DA is something that will definitely help, but if you don't know how to use it it will simply be too much of a hastle. Honestly, to this day I still do all of my detailing my hand (including paint correction) and anybody that see's my car, or others I have done is amazed. Granted, my arms are like rubber for the days following the detail and I would save a hell of a lot of time with the DA...
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Old 07-02-2011, 02:56 PM   #9
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My response is to simply go online and read as much about detailing as possible from as many reputable sources as possible. This will weed out the good and bad practices and through this you will slowly learn what needs to be done before touching your paint with anything too abrasive. A DA is something that will definitely help, but if you don't know how to use it it will simply be too much of a hastle. Honestly, to this day I still do all of my detailing my hand (including paint correction) and anybody that see's my car, or others I have done is amazed. Granted, my arms are like rubber for the days following the detail and I would save a hell of a lot of time with the DA...
....I'm not trying to be a smart ass but do you mind me asking if you have ever used a DA (incld. model, pads, products) and what part about it you felt or are assuming is a hassle (vs. correction by hand)?

I'm not trying to insinuate correction can't or shouldn't be done by hand, but having done both over many years (inlcd limited rotary experience), I can honestly say the DA's, pads, systems, products and tutorials available these days make effective, relatively safe/easy and fast correction via machine very accessible to the average Joe (if one wants to go that route).

I couldn't agree more regarding your comment about research. I would invite anyone to join the various detailing websites/forums like Autopia.org, DetailingBliss.com, Autogeekonline.net, Meguiarsonline.com, etc. to see what professionals, enthusiasts and novices have to share on the subject.
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Old 07-02-2011, 03:05 PM   #10
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i actually paint cars for a very big dealership and do alot of repairs/ wet sanding/ buffing.. .so u are going to talk the op into what? buying a buffer and pads and compound?... ohh ok... sounds smart when he knows little about it could be more damage than what its worth... if u knew anything u would know a nice coat of wax.. especially collinte will hide swirls/ and light scratches trust me ive seen it work and applying/ removing wax is something anyone can do without skill ...
Wow, I'm glad you're not detailing my car. I could see a cleaner wax helping to hide scratches, but not Collinite. I use 845 on my car and it definitely does not hide scratches or swirls. It is a great last step product and very durable, but it won't work miracles by itself.

I'm not going to talk the OP into anything. He is asking for advice and people are responding. Yes, I would rather the OP invest in the proper tools and technique to actually correct the finish instead of just trying to cover it up. It is not hard to learn to use a D/A and it is very difficult to damage your paint with one.

OP, the post two posts before this (#7) is giving great advice IMO. To correct your finish the right way, be prepared to spend some time researching and invest in the proper equipment. Or if you aren't comfortable with that, find a good detailer in your area.
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Old 07-02-2011, 03:31 PM   #11
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....I'm not trying to be a smart ass but do you mind me asking if you have ever used a DA (incld. model, pads, products) and what part about it you felt or are assuming is a hassle (vs. correction by hand)?

I'm not trying to insinuate correction can't or shouldn't be done by hand, but having done both over many years (inlcd limited rotary experience), I can honestly say the DA's, pads, systems, products and tutorials available these days make effective, relatively safe/easy and fast correction via machine very accessible to the average Joe (if one wants to go that route).
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I couldn't agree more regarding your comment about research. I would invite anyone to join the various detailing websites/forums like Autopia.org, DetailingBliss.com, Autogeekonline.net, Meguiarsonline.com, etc. to see what professionals, enthusiasts and novices have to share on the subject.
Nice catch--that was more an issue of placement of words, or lack there of. What I meant was that if the OP doesn't know much about detailing, that perhaps simply beginning to learn by hand would be better off and than move up to a DA or the like from there. For instance, you don't want to hand someone with a lack of knowledge a DA with a strong abrasive compound (like M105). As you said though, there are definitely a lot of turtorials and websites dedicated to teaching someone how to get at least a beginners feel for using it.

I'd also like to say that if there are any typo's in this, I'm sorry, as I'm using a crappy laptop at work and am not used to typing on this haha.
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