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Old 03-01-2001, 11:06 AM   #1
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Cool winnings in Pro and Club Rally?

aside from the sheer joy of running these events, what are the winnings (money wise)? i saw the entry fee for the Oregon Trail rally, and im just curious to know if that all goes to the actual running of the event, or if it goes into a "purse" to be taken home by the winners?

personally, when i got the dough to run these events i'd be happy w/ a huge trophy, but takin a lil cash home would be nice too
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Old 03-01-2001, 12:50 PM   #2
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the only way u make $$ is through contingency sponsorships...
http://www.scca.org/amateur/performa...ntingency.html

there's not $$ for first place from the organizers of the event... all that $$ goes into running the event... you would not believe the costs involved!

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Old 03-01-2001, 02:05 PM   #3
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Laughlin has the largest cash payout.. though they are not an SCCA event... www.rallyusa.com

Bill Barfoot
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Old 03-01-2001, 02:09 PM   #4
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So does that mean that rallying in the US is pretty much a very expensive hobby?

Since rallying gets so little coverage compared to other types of racing I can't imagine that the sponsorships bring in nearly enough $$ to cover costs, even for the larger and more successful teams...
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Old 03-01-2001, 02:12 PM   #5
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90% of SCCA racing is a very expensive hobby...
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Old 03-01-2001, 02:27 PM   #6
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it's very expensive...
you better have SOME sort of sponsorship... or ya will be broke...

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Old 03-01-2001, 03:40 PM   #7
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so it's that good ole catch22 again? you need sponsorship to be able to fund a competitive vehicle, but you need to be competitive before sponsors will consider (partially) funding you...

I'd love to see some balance sheets for an average club rally or pro rally entry, broken down by vehicle costs, transportation and lodging costs, entry fees, etc. Anyone know of anything? Finally, does anyone know how to effectively motivate the NoCal SCCA chapter to start doing (more) rally events?
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Old 03-01-2001, 04:54 PM   #8
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Q.How do you make a small fortune on racing? A.Start with a large fortune.
The Pro in Pro Rally is there because it sounds better than Amateur Rally.

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Old 03-01-2001, 06:57 PM   #9
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Deep,
This is going from memory for Rim last year...

Tow out and back with my truck - 300.00 gas
hotel 2 rooms 2 nights $240.00
Gas for the car - $150.00
event entry - $500.00 ish
food for 4 for the weekend - $250.00
Friday off of work for all 4 - $700.00

I was crew chief on this one so these numbers may be off slightly, but are close.

now, you need to factor in $8000.00 for the car, and $2000.00 for the trailer. We rolled that weekend, so it cost an additional $3000.00 or so, and over a year of not competing (it is still in peices)

When I navigated Treeline last year, it was with a different driver, not my regular team... MY expenses were:

day off work - $175.00
gas to drive out - $50.00
Hotel - $120.00
food - $50.00
1/2 entry fee - $125.00

we had no crew, and I don't know his other expenses. I still had a great time though. It is definately a costly sport, the contingencies are minimal when factored against costs, but every little bit helps..


My best advice if you want more rallies... organize one. A simple club 1 or rallysprint. Be warned though - if the thought of the costs involved with competing scare you, organizing costs with make your head spin, so START OUT SLOW!!!


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Old 03-02-2001, 11:01 AM   #10
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Thanks Bill, that's exactly the kinda thing I was looking for... All in all the costs are actually pretty much in line with what I expected, and although they're out of my league right now, I know it should be feasible at some point

I don't know if I have the nerve yet to start organizing my own, although I do have some experience in event planning involving land use/BLM stuff (not of an automotive nature, however).

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Old 03-02-2001, 03:28 PM   #11
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yep yep. me and deepbeep are in the same boat. no molah im not worried though. one more year and after i graduate from college ill be makin 40k a year or so, and i cant do anything but go up i work in the computer field, networking specifically, so im not really worried about money down the road. bein a broke college kid w/ a bad addiction to cars and a $380 scooby car note sucks though.
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Old 03-02-2001, 03:42 PM   #12
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LOL Damon... I know I used to think that way too, but be forewarned: unless you live in an area with extremely affordable cost of living expenses, you'll be amazed at how quickly your 'discretionary income' evaporates. By all standards I make a very healthy income, but living expenses whittle it away about as quickly as I can make it! I think that this sport/hobby requires a large amount of focus and dedication to be able to pull it off financially, but that said, it may well be worth it!

I think that once I'm ready to progress to that level, I'll be looking to team up with someone or a team that's already had some experience, and go from there...
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Old 03-02-2001, 08:16 PM   #13
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Deepbeep,

The best way to do it low budget is to get a fire suit, helmet, and rally lic, and show up at events and co-drive. Some people are still lookin for navies for Cherokee, there is always someone looking for a balast man. (or WOman subie gal). If there is no one in need, work the event, and see what all is involved.

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