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Old 08-31-2013, 09:12 PM   #26
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Heck a common thing with guitars to prevent the neck/body joint shifting where it was screwed together was to put a piece of window screen between. Obviously that's wood so it bites more but with a hard enough wire that it could bite into the subframe and chassis it could work and be much more universal
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:13 PM   #27
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I believe you that the subframe a are different I just doubt that it improves very much. Out of curiosity are the torque specs they give same as factory or higher? If these squish down around the bolts so much are they damaged once you torque them? Can they be taken off and on or is it a once and done situation
Improves 100% it does. Road noise also goes down significantly.

As for the material. Ours uses a different type of Aluminum which does not "crush" so if you wanted to add subframe braces later you can.

These are torqued down to vehicle specs not greater.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:02 PM   #28
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So I got the rigid collars installed on my 2013 5 door STI..
The install was very simple, and easy to some.
I was dying to see what it was going to do, and had certain expectations.
Once I rolled out of the driveway, I dropped my jaw, and was hoping for something
crazy to happen and realized nothing did, because I guess I was expecting something
very revolutionary, but I realized I could not in a matter of 3 minutes.

So I thought to myself, lets see how the ride is as far as impact goes,
and my STI came off a lift for a cusco power steering rack and pinion brace,
with super pro bushings, along with Rigid Collars that I got from SMY.
Total suspension modifications: Super Pro Pitch Stop Mount,
Rigid Collars, and Cusco Brace with Bushings.

So I am driving down dyker heights, and take a turn on purpose
where I know is a minefield of bumps and cracks on the road,
and I down shift, and brought rpms to 3500 in 3rd, and decided to go over,
and the first thing I instantly noticed was how pliable the car went over it,
opposed to very choppy, and what I really loved how quietly it did it too.
Any STI owner here knows how the car is not well insulated, so you virtually
hear everything. Well after a few passes, and driving time increasing,
I started to notice the overall sound in cabin went down significantly,
and response to Impact in the car has changed.

When I go over the speed bump with 2 wheels at the same time,
and one at a time, it feels very very rigid, like a solid car, like a euro car ride.
If you driven a euro car before, the car shares a similar characteristic to one too now,
like the one where one wheel will hit a crater, and you feel it dramatically, or when
you go over a serious amount of bumps, and it will feel more comfortable, than
your friends cheap ride.

put the car on the alignment, and it scored Ok, the steering upgrade didn't effect
the alignment at all, cause my dad did a great job on the install, marked areas
off when lowering the rack a bit, but the Thrust angle did change, and I'm going to say because
of the shift that happened on the sub-frame due to the the fill ins in the void
around the sub-frame bolts

Edit: the car has 10,750 miles,
and the collars are in on the car for about 4xx miles.. already..

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Old 09-01-2013, 01:29 AM   #29
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and I down shift, and brought rpms to 3500 in 3rd, and decided to gover
That's a pretty gutsy call, deciding to gover right there on a city street!

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... off when lowering the rack a bit, but the Thrust angle did change, and I'm going to say because of the shift that happened on the sub-frame due to the the fill ins in the void
around the sub-frame bolts
You need to go back and edit your post - you forgot to needlessly hit RETURN in the middle of that sentence.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:08 AM   #30
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That's a pretty gutsy call, deciding to gover right there on a city street!


You need to go back and edit your post - you forgot to needlessly hit RETURN in the middle of that sentence.
I agree, but we don't have suspension dynos here,
and what better way to test turbulence..
I made sure I was not going to do it at a place
where people were going to jump out of nowhere
or dealing with mild traffic..
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:40 AM   #31
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So attempt number 3 now..... two times IE has failed miserable at life now going to the iPad .......


The video that sold me on ridged collars: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L_h-2X6...%3DL_h-2X6FWcw

Now: 2 years ago I did this modification on my 2010 Genesis Coupe Track 1 year after my BC Coilover install.... this is when I said WTF why didn't I do this modification a year ago. The bounce of the car was removed, the roughness of every single bump was removed, and my girlfriend actually didnt mind getting the car with me. Car literally sat 1" off of the ground

Fast forward 1 year later and I have a brand new 2013 STi Hatch with bone stock suspension picked up about 30 days ago. As I was talking with Yanev about the car and my goals he made mention of this kit he just got in and needing a few people to test out..... so sure why the hell not I loved it last time, and if I can get a hook up on something that I know once I do coils will make my girlfriend not complain every 5 seconds win/win

2013 WSP STI Hatch
Suspension STOCK

Install: 30 minutes with 2 people on the car and a lift, 8 bolts in total you are dropping adding thread lock and re-torquing to OEM spec

Review: With a stock car the benefits are not as obvious BUT I will say this, the ride of the car has now come on par with my VW GTI I had, and made the car feel more planted coming around a corner by not allowing the body to "move" with the bushings. The other benefit as I have hit bumps and potholes in the lovely NJ roads I found myself not saying oww as much and the car rolling over them. All in all for pricing, this is a great add into your car with Sway Bars/Coilovers/Mounts

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Old 09-01-2013, 10:26 AM   #32
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Guess I can't use this on the rear of my car because I've replaced the rear subframe bushings with whiteline (and hence replaced the center tube where the bolt goes)

Unless the whiteline is somehow the same size as stock.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:40 PM   #33
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I agree, but we don't have suspension dynos here,
and what better way to test turbulence..
I made sure I was not going to do it at a place
where people were going to jump out of nowhere
or dealing with mild traffic..
OK, the smartass approach obviously went sailing right over your head. So, I'll be more direct.

(1) What the hell is "gover"?

(2) That white box that you type posts into will automatically wrap the words onto the next line as you type. Later, when your or I or any of the other few hundred thousand forum users access this page, the forum software and their internet browser will automatically wrap the words based on the width of the display. In other words, stop hitting RETURN in the middle of sentences! It does nothing other than make your posts non-intuitive for normal people to read and make you look like someone who doesn't know how a computer works.

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I agree, but we don't have suspension dynos here, and what better way to test turbulence[?] I made sure I was not going to do it at a place where people were going to jump out of nowhere or dealing with mild traffic.
Tadaaaaaaa!!!
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:07 PM   #34
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OK, the smartass approach obviously went sailing right over your head
English may not be his first language. Only thing I can think off with the odd word choice and sentence structure.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:19 PM   #35
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OK, the smartass approach obviously went sailing right over your head. So, I'll be more direct.

(1) What the hell is "gover"?

(2) That white box that you type posts into will automatically wrap the words onto the next line as you type. Later, when your or I or any of the other few hundred thousand forum users access this page, the forum software and their internet browser will automatically wrap the words based on the width of the display. In other words, stop hitting RETURN in the middle of sentences! It does nothing other than make your posts non-intuitive for normal people to read and make you look like someone who doesn't know how a computer works.

Like so:

Tadaaaaaaa!!!
Patrick,

No

One

Needs

Your

Attitude.

If you have nothing good to add, do not waste the time of the thousands of users you mentioned.

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Old 09-01-2013, 05:28 PM   #36
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(2) That white box that you type posts into will automatically wrap the words onto the next line as you type. Later, when your or I or any of the other few hundred thousand forum users access this page, the forum software and their internet browser will automatically wrap the words based on the width of the display. In other words, stop hitting RETURN in the middle of sentences! It does nothing other than make your posts non-intuitive for normal people to read and make you look like someone who doesn't know how a computer works.
Hah, oh now... come on, Pat..
You've been here long enough.
You know what happens when
you make requests like that...


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Old 09-08-2013, 09:07 PM   #37
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We do offer a money back guarantee if you feel like the product did not improve your ride. And yes I am that sure you will feel a big improvement. What do you have to lose? Nothing right!!! And what company selling aftermarket parts will let you install a product and send it back for a full refund if it doesn't do what it claims to do? Can you Name ONE?

And lets say I am telling the truth and you do love them. Leave a review and i will pay you $40 for it.

Yes I am that confident that your ride will improve, road noise will drop and steering will be more precise. Why else would I risk my companies name and offer a crappy products? And Why start now? I test the products before I say they work or not. I just do not push products to make a quick buck.
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:17 AM   #38
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Do they have them for a N/A '97 Legacy (BD body style)? My engine is out right now, so it wouldn't take much more effort to drop the front crossmember to install these. Although I suppose I would be a bad guinea pig, since it'll have been months between the time I drove the car with and without the collars.
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:10 AM   #39
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I like this product. I personally haven't taken a subframe out of one of the cars at work (mercedes dealership) but I have confirmed with another technician that they do have these from the factory. Interesting idea though, I have taken many subframes out of nissans and did notice the bolt tightening kinda off-center of the bolt hole. I never would've thought that this could be a problem.

I don't see any harm in this upgrade at all acutally.

edit: I learned to stop questioning the engineers at mercedes. As much as a PITA the cars can be to work on sometimes, there is a good reason behind every design.

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Old 09-09-2013, 11:51 AM   #40
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SMY, I didnt see these on your sight. PM me price on kit for 04-07 sti. "Full forester swap"

Thanks,

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Old 09-10-2013, 11:02 PM   #41
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so what is the ballpark price on these?
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:46 PM   #42
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What if you have a 02 wrx with a oem front subframe and a 06 sti rear subframe? The rears where exactly the same.
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:05 AM   #43
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The subframe is different in the pre 07 wrx? like which parts? I have many pieces swapped to a 07 sti.
The 2004-2005 WRX STI OEM front subframe has two extra mounting points over the WRX/Base Impreza. For 2006-2007, the subframe is the same over all models.
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:46 AM   #44
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The 2004-2005 WRX STI OEM front subframe has two extra mounting points over the WRX/Base Impreza. For 2006-2007, the subframe is the same over all models.
Ah, but could one buy the "STi," kit and still use the remaining/existing holes to mount this magical kit to a WRX?
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Ah, but could one buy the "STi," kit and still use the remaining/existing holes to mount this magical kit to a WRX?
The extra two mounting holes for the 2004-2005 WRX-STI don't exist on the WRX/base models.

So yes, you use this "STI kit" on a non-STI by omitting two of the collars.
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I found a price on the 08+ at $199... Not sure how much the 04-07 kit is but I about pooped myself when I saw that price.
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Will be up on our site next week..
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I found a price on the 08+ at $199... Not sure how much the 04-07 kit is but I about pooped myself when I saw that price.
is that for a full kit? or just 4 collars?
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I believe you that the subframe a are different I just doubt that it improves very much. Out of curiosity are the torque specs they give same as factory or higher? If these squish down around the bolts so much are they damaged once you torque them? Can they be taken off and on or is it a once and done situation
These collars can be reused because of the type of Aluminum that is used. So lets say you have them installed then want to install rear sub-frame bushings you can.

The do work, and it is very noticeable. Torque specs are as per OEM spec.

The 08-10 STI and 11-14 wrx and sti collars have been put up on our site today. We currently have them for the 05-07 STI but just finishing up install notes for that model. That will be added on Sunday. Other models will be available soon.
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