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Old 07-02-2011, 12:12 PM   #1
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Default Which Porter Cable 7424 XP Kit should I get?

I have been pondering for a few weeks and i've finally decided to take the dive and buy the 7424 XP. It'll save me a ton of time, give a better shine than hand, and not drain me of energy when detailing my car. I am starting to have swirl marks and spider webs on my paint and my moms 2006 Honda Accord Coupe has horrible water spots (she parks out front at work and the sprinkler gets her everyday).

Anyway, I am looking on Autogeek and can't decide which kit I want to buy. I would like the "Perfect Starter Kit" for $225 so i'll get 5 pads and a few extras but i'm not sure which pads I should get. YES I read the description for all of them and it helped a little but I just want to get the right pads for the job and products i'll be using. Here is what I have so far:

1. Mothers California Gold Pre-Wax Cleaner (Step 1)
2. Zymol Cleaning wax
3. Mothers California Gold Pure Carnauba Wax Liquid (Step 3)

I washed it with regular car wash, then Iron-X, clayed every inch of the car, and ran through those 3 steps by hand. In my last order from AG I got a free sample of Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0. And if I buy the buffer i'll get the Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0 as my free sample. But long story short, I just need to know which pads to get/what would work best for the products I have
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:44 AM   #2
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here are two kits that will work well

https://detailersdomain.com/Uber-Por...anz_p_215.html

(includes a med polish and final polish, pads, towels and wax.)

or

https://detailersdomain.com/Uber-Por...205_p_307.html

You will want to

wash
clay
compound/polish
wax

we are also running a July 4th special and free shipping over $150

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Old 07-03-2011, 12:42 PM   #3
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Default Autogeek kits have more pads, less products

since you have products you like (although I question whether you can really remove swirls with them) then get the Autogeek kit for $225 which has all the pads you will need for a while plus a pad cleaner and pad conditioner.
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:12 PM   #4
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since you have products you like (although I question whether you can really remove swirls with them) then get the Autogeek kit for $225 which has all the pads you will need for a while plus a pad cleaner and pad conditioner.
go thru some of the details we have done, the products are proven and used by many many pros that we sell to world wide.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/Details_bc_1.html

checkout our detailing forums as well.

www.detailingbliss.com
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Old 07-03-2011, 02:49 PM   #5
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since you have products you like (although I question whether you can really remove swirls with them) then get the Autogeek kit for $225 which has all the pads you will need for a while plus a pad cleaner and pad conditioner.
Yes I would look into getting the swirl remover like the Wolfgang and possibly DP High Performace Glass restorer and a compound for the paint. So i'd be better off just getting the $225 kit rather than getting the $199 kit and choosing my own pads?

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go thru some of the details we have done, the products are proven and used by many many pros that we sell to world wide.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/Details_bc_1.html
I have seen many of your details and there is no way I could match your results with my limited experience but I just spent a pretty penny, actually 25,000 of them on a bunch of new detail stuff since i'm not using armor all like I did on my honda and I really am limited with funds when i'm looking at the performance sector lol. I appreciate the input though and I will take your advice to heart since you are the professional!
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Old 07-03-2011, 02:58 PM   #6
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are you just looking for a pc kit or everything.

on pad cleaning you can just save yourself some money there and use dish detergent and warm water.

if you want a pc kit here you go - $169.95.
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Just the PC and pads for cutting, polishing, waxing, and buffing
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Old 07-08-2011, 10:03 AM   #8
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Can you recommend a good compound for removing water spots/scratches as well?
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Old 07-08-2011, 10:13 AM   #9
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I was recommended this by mike from autoaesthetica:
Use in numbered order

1 Meguiars Mirror Glaze #105 Ultra-Cut Compound 8 oz.
2 Meguiars Mirror Glaze #205 Ultra Finishing Polish 8 oz.
3 Meguiars #21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0
4 Meguiars Mirror Glaze #26 Hi-Tech Liquid Car Wax

Im going to try those out shortly.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:28 PM   #10
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Let me know how they work out for you please!
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Old 07-08-2011, 02:09 PM   #11
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You currently don't have any products/chemicals the will remove even fine scratches from clear coat especially working by hand. You need to decide how must correction you are willing to do and actually going to do. For a daily driver doing a complete paint correction doesn't make sense if the vehicle is still going to be beat up everyday; i.e. your mom's car parked under sprinklers everyday at work, or bad car washing techniques. You need to ID the cause of the defects and mitigate that cause so that if you correct the defects that aren't put right back into the paint.
That being said, some good products that I have used for compounding are Pinnacle's XMT 4, Menzerna Power Gloss/Wolfgang TSR 3.0(very close to the same products). You would use a cutting pad of orange or yellow(only if you don't get the results from the orange). Follow the compounding/cutting step with a finishing polish matched to the compound you used(preferably for the same product line) using a polishing or finishing pad. Once you inspect and have the result you want you can seal the paint with a quality paint sealant and top it with a carnauba wax if you want. With this being said, if you don't plan on doing the whole car at once (which is not recommended for a newbie to machine polishing) you can get away with only having 1-2 of each cutting/polishing pad. You really need to get the hang of how the PC DA works and how to properly use it before tackling a whole vehicle. If you hadn't said that either vehicle needed serious paint correction I would say give the Meguiar's DA microfiber system a try. But, if you have deep swirls/scratches/etching you have to compound/cut the defects first then use the Meg's DAMF compound to refine the paint. Then of course the finishing wax(polishing step). The benefit of the Megs system is that the finishing wax is a polish/sealant and is a very fast step. The wax/sealant in it is durable as well. And usually the whole vehicle doesn't have defects that need to be compounded before using using the Meg's DAMF compound. So you can go around the car doing just the deep defect areas with an orange cutting pad and your WG TSR 3.0 then switch over to your DAMF compounding pad and do the whole car to remove the less deep defects. I would recommend watching the videos by Mike Phillips on dual action polishers and swirl removers, and his video on how to choose the right polisher for the job. There are a lot of choses out there so you may still have some homework to do before tackling your first paint correction detail with a DA polisher. I would keep it simple and not overwhelm yourself with too many different pads. In any system or manufacturers line you would just need 1-2 cutting, polishing, finishing pads for what you want to do. And any two step swirl removal system for OEM paint will probably give you great results. That being said sometimes you will need to leave deeper defects so you have clear coat to correct later in that area especially if it is a high traffic/impact area of the vehicle. Sometimes it is smarter not to make your paint 100% flawless as not to remove too much paint/clear for future corrections.
Hope this helped and was not too much. Come back with any questions don't hesitate to call auto geek to get recommendations, or possibly any other site you may buy from. autogeekonline.net has tons of post from people that are/were in the same position as you and looking to do the same thing.
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Wow thank you very much for all the info. That really helped a lot and made a lot of sense
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