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Old 03-15-2001, 05:23 PM   #1
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Question SCCA Rally Questions (newbieisms)

What all is involved in getting into the entry entry entry level rallying stuff put out by the SCCA? I'd really like to give it a shot, but don't know what to expect. Is there room for a total newbie such as I to go out and make a fool of himself, or is there some minimum standard of competency I must achieve before they'll let me don asbestos underwear and endanger my well-being? I caught some references to rally schools which sounds like a blast, but aside from that I'm not sure where one goes to practice rallying without collecting a bunch of deer antlers in the radiator and speeding tickets galore. Can anybody give me a Reader's Digest condensed version of what's up? Perhaps volunteering to work one of the upcoming MN events would be a good way to gain some knowledge.

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Old 03-15-2001, 11:30 PM   #2
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Many of us entry level guys in So.Cal are heading out to a Rally School/Rally-Cross next week, organized by the CA Rally Series (CRS). Check to see what your closest rally organization is, and if they offer a similar event. Definately start with a rally-x to see if you even like it. Volunteering with an organizer, or even one of the teams is an excellent way to go, as you'll gain invaluable contacts within the organizations.

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Old 03-16-2001, 06:43 AM   #3
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You might want to do a few TSD rallys before tring pro-rally/stage rally. I'm going to try to vollenteer at a pro rally this summer, just to see how one works first hand. Good luck, maybe one day I'll be racing you.

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Old 03-16-2001, 06:44 AM   #4
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rb5 is correct but I'd like to add a few things:

1) Rob a bank (rally racing is EXPENSIVE)

2) Get an SCCA rulebook and if you're prepping your car for ProRally follow it to the T so you'll breeze thru scrutineering. If you're buying a used rally car (more economical way to go) be sure that it's got a current SCCA or CARS rulebook. You might have to change some stuff if it's a Canuck car to run in SCCA production class.

3) Rob a old lady of her Social Security check...

4) Rally School is good but I think that @ the STPR they have a rally school @ the beginning of the event (like a day early or so) RallyX is good too...

5) Marry Bill Gates' daughter

6) VOLUNTEER VOLUNTEER VOLUNTEER - you'll meet great people and get some good advice.

7) File a death claim on yourself against your life insurance to get some $$$...do you see a trend starting???

Go to Ben's rally page for good classified listings: http://www.cwl.com/bensrallypage

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Old 03-16-2001, 09:42 AM   #5
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Thank you all for the input. I figured out that it's going to be spendy already. My biggest fear is that I try it and really like it. Then I'm going to be trying to build a WRC car on 1/1000th of the budget! (sounds like some of you are already there)

The SCCA talks about "Club Rally" and "Pro Rally"- is the Club Rally what you refer to as TSDs? It looked to be the entry level portion of the two so that's what I was going to research. Also, what's STPR? Training, training and more training I can certainly use. Do they have all kinds of different classes of vehicles, or is it the timed stages that are the equalizing factor?

As soon as SCCA assigns me my member number (just mailed the stuff yesterday), I'll call 'em up and see what I can help out with. Thanks again for the insights! I hope to run into some of you (not literally, of course ) out there one of these days...

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Old 03-16-2001, 05:35 PM   #6
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I believe he's refering to the Susquehanna Trail Pro Rally (STPR). Its held in PA. Usually a great rally, I'll be there for sure this year, got to see the Prodrive subies.
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Old 03-16-2001, 06:13 PM   #7
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Club rally and TSD's are not the same thing
TSD's are not "speed" events, no role cage required, etc, etc. SCCA calls it a RoadRally
http://www.oregonrally.com/roadrally.htm
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Old 03-16-2001, 08:20 PM   #8
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Doh! Roll cage? That's going to be rough in a daily driver isn't it. Guess I'd better get those rules and give them a good reading before I get myself in a bind. I'm more interested in the speed events as I've already got waaaayyy too many hours on public roads as it is. Hmmm... Maybe I need *two* Subies! All I have to do is sell my house, my TV, my dog...

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Yes, 2 Subies would be ideal; hell, 5 Subies would be IDEAL But realistically, if you're shooting for Prorally then buy someone elses entry level car. That's what i plan to do eventually. That Ben's Rally page is the best resource; if you can't find anything there that doesn't interest you, then maybe rallying is not your thing

As far as rollcages, they really aren't that intrusive if you get a good clean install. But if you're going to be serious enough to warrant a rollcage, then its best to dedicate the car just for rallying.

Try it first. Even if you love it after just the 1st stage, take it easy with the mods and be realistic with goals. Just concentrate on making new friends & picking up bits of rally wisdom when you come across it.
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Old 03-16-2001, 09:17 PM   #10
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Heck, anything with a motor in it (the bigger the better!) has always piqued my interest. It's really not a question of whether or not I'm going to like the performance rally stuff, it's just a question of whether or not I suck so badly at it as to be too embarrassed to keep doing it. Then there's the bit about taking the time to do it right, and so on. Work has a way of interfering with one's fun, ya know?

Right now I just don't understand enough about how the rally stuff all works and where I might be able to fit in to it. Rules, working a couple of events, some driving school, and by the time I get that accomplished and my car built I might at least have a clue. Thanks again.

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