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Old 07-06-2011, 08:10 PM   #1
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Default Subaru blue oil filters - consensus?

I know you can still find the black ones on the internet, but lets stay on topic and talk about the blue ones.

Have read dozens of threads and have yet to see any real consensus made on the topic. Lets hear it.
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:15 PM   #2
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uh what are you looking for....they filter the right amount of oil per what ever "psi"....they are made for subaru's in my opinion there the best. ...im running about 100 whp over the stock wrx system and my oil pressure and everything else is fine...the filter does what it is supposed to do. the dealer next to me still sells the blue ones. i also had an oil analysis recently and it was perfectly clean and engine wear was normal.....hope this helps

i dont no if your thinking of other oil filters such as fram or wix and so on, but my thought is the other non subaru filter makers take the specs to create the oil filter and just make it....who knows if they actually test the filters even on our cars. what i do know is subaru testes its filters and made them to what ever specifications that the filter and engine needed......?

just my two cents lol
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:27 PM   #3
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Fram filters absolutely suck. I work at a shop and the flimsiest, most leak prone, and worst oil retention on shutdown are frams and the no-name ones (probably manufactured at the same plant).

The subaru blue ones have been great for me, they always seem to do really well and never leak, and they have the correct spring psi.

I know some people swear by the black ones, but IMO, just go to your dealer and get the blue ones, Ive never had a problem and would recomend!
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:27 PM   #4
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The consensus is this:

The best oil filter is an oil bypass set-up. Now go and find out how much one costs. Since you now realize that your car is NOT $300 important, realize that EVERY filter other than a true bypass set-up is super crappy and that you don't in fact care about your oil filter. Once you realize this, you may either use whatever filter you can find for 99 cents or the blue Subaru one because it matters ZERO.
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:33 PM   #5
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oops nvm
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:35 PM   #6
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for some weird reason i burned oil using the blue filter and rotella t6. now i switched to the black mazda rx8 filter and havent lost any.
dunno how to explain it but whatever
the blue ones are made by honeywell, who also makes fram filters…
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:40 PM   #7
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Fram filters absolutely suck.
get the blue ones, Ive never had a problem and would recomend!
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the blue ones are made by honeywell, who also makes fram filters…
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i also had an oil analysis recently and it was perfectly clean and engine wear was normal.....hope this helps
This is what I am talking about...
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:41 PM   #8
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The consensus is this:

The best oil filter is an oil bypass set-up. Now go and find out how much one costs. Since you now realize that your car is NOT $300 important, realize that EVERY filter other than a true bypass set-up is super crappy and that you don't in fact care about your oil filter. Once you realize this, you may either use whatever filter you can find for 99 cents or the blue Subaru one because it matters ZERO.
He was asking what people thought about subaru blue filters, not what the best oil filter money could buy was... read the post. And I beg to differ. If you've seen some of the absolute junk filters I've seen, you would say otherwise.
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for some weird reason i burned oil using the blue filter and rotella t6. now i switched to the black mazda rx8 filter and havent lost any.
dunno how to explain it but whatever
the blue ones are made by honeywell, who also makes fram filters…
Blue ones are better than frams, I assure you that much. You are right, they both are made by honeywell, but theyre different filters.

And thats an intersting tidbit about burning less oil on the rx7 filter, might be worth trying
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:54 PM   #9
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Blue ones for under warranty coverage (i've seen internal communications that question any other filter being used)

After warranty coverage, ??? whatever you want? I'll stick to the blue ones because I get them cheap through the dealership and I've never had an issue with them.
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Old 07-07-2011, 12:38 AM   #10
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I use filters that meet the proper specs for my car. In my case (2002 wrx) I typically use Bosch or purolator filters (same manufacturer) because they are cheaper and easier for me to come by than the new subaru filters. As stated in this thread, the blue filters are made by honeywell, which also happens to manufacture fram oil filters. Well, so what. They are made to subaru's specs, and as far as I know honeywell also makes pretty good turbos
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:09 AM   #11
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I use filters that meet the proper specs for my car. In my case (2002 wrx) I typically use Bosch or purolator filters (same manufacturer) because they are cheaper and easier for me to come by than the new subaru filters.

'ya sure those are made to subaru specs? (hint, they aren't, one important spec is different...)
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:47 AM   #12
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'ya sure those are made to subaru specs? (hint, they aren't, one important spec is different...)
The Purolator PL14460 has the correct bypass spec, although it doesn't have an anti-drainback valve . Don't think it should be used on the 2.5 l engines though due to interference from the exhaust manifold.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:00 AM   #13
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'ya sure those are made to subaru specs? (hint, they aren't, one important spec is different...)
What specifically would that spec be? The color code lol
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:01 AM   #14
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He was asking what people thought about subaru blue filters, not what the best oil filter money could buy was... read the post. And I beg to differ. If you've seen some of the absolute junk filters I've seen, you would say otherwise.
I know.....just pointing out that people who think they care, really don't care. My last oil change I used a Walmart brand SuperTech oil filter AKA the cheapest oil filter on the planet. Result? Great UOA. When my next oil test is over, I'll be using it again. I'm sure you've seen horrible filters, but I have yet to see one. Hence our forum is about advice...yours differs from mine as I post what I know and you do the same. Thanks for your opinion!
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Old 07-07-2011, 12:27 PM   #15
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back to OP - since you have a 2011 i don't think the black ones would fit your car even if Subaru themselves still sold them.

And i haven't found an aftermarket one that has the bypass valve psi set as high as the OEM blue filter. (which is higher than "normal" on your 2011)

As Unabomber said, does it really matter? Probably not.... but I'd be damned if i gave Subie any wiggle room to fight a engine warranty claim based on a low psi filter that allowed less filtering because it was open more frequently........ blah blah. it's not worth the headache to save $2 per filter. Just buy the blue ones and be done.
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:29 PM   #16
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back to OP - since you have a 2011 i don't think the black ones would fit your car even if Subaru themselves still sold them.

And i haven't found an aftermarket one that has the bypass valve psi set as high as the OEM blue filter. (which is higher than "normal" on your 2011)

As Unabomber said, does it really matter? Probably not.... but I'd be damned if i gave Subie any wiggle room to fight a engine warranty claim based on a low psi filter that allowed less filtering because it was open more frequently........ blah blah. it's not worth the headache to save $2 per filter. Just buy the blue ones and be done.
The black filter comes on the 2011 WRX from the factory as it's still the standard filter in Japan. It's a different size, which made my first oil change a handful.

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Old 07-07-2011, 02:17 PM   #17
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People have used all kinds of different filters on these cars and the engines have lasted a long time with many miles. The engines that did fail have nothing to do with the filter.

Bosch filter for the last 80K no issues, UOA in hand.
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:22 PM   #18
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OEM filters since new. No issues here.... blue white black ... whatever....
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:26 PM   #19
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I get mine at the dealer the blue ones. Wether they be blue black, pink wtf ever since i get them at the dealer and if somethng happens as a result of a bad filter subaru better fng fix it. ive had no probs with mine and the 1st oil change i did i used a mobil one filter and no probs with that either but since i just go to the dealer and buy a couple at a time.
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:47 PM   #20
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You could always stock up on purolator filters.

Purolator PureONE oil filters - As low as $.33 each + tax @ Advance Auto
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3077267
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:24 PM   #21
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You could always stock up on purolator filters.

Purolator PureONE oil filters - As low as $.33 each + tax @ Advance Auto
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3077267
they do not met the bypass valve psi spec for his 2011. see my post above... not work the headache if you ever have a warranty claim
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The black filter comes on the 2011 WRX from the factory as it's still the standard filter in Japan. It's a different size, which made my first oil change a handful.

odd. my 2011 came w/ the blue. I didn't even think the black would clear the header and even fit
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Old 07-07-2011, 03:45 PM   #23
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odd. my 2011 came w/ the blue. I didn't even think the black would clear the header and even fit
My 2011 came with a black one.
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blue is fine. your oil filter is not going to blow up your engine. i change my filter and oil every 3-4k so any filter will really do, but i like oem.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:29 PM   #25
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Always used OEM filters from 2003+ on. I have NEVER had nor heard of a problem with the OEM Subaru Filters.

Once guy brought his WRX into the shop with a spun bearing. Said the dealer left the oil filter loose, and got them to pay for it.

When the truth came out, he spun a bearing using NLTS in the UTEC.

So he spun his oil filter loose, drove it down the road, and called the dealer. Dealer Paid for new engine. Pretty shady, but seen it all the time.
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