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Old 07-06-2011, 11:14 PM   #1
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So I stopped to buy dinner today and found my car like this....


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Old 07-06-2011, 11:46 PM   #2
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hate to break it to you, but 99% chance the front bumper will need to get repainted. figure $500.
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Old 07-07-2011, 12:21 AM   #3
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I have a clear bra and it helped dish some of the damage.. I don't know if it actually went thru the 3M plastic. I guess I need to have a body shop take a look at it.
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Old 07-07-2011, 12:41 AM   #4
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I you have the 3M film on there I would say the that is just black plastic or rubber transfered onto the film. Unless you see the film torn away it isn't on the paint. Can you catch a finger nail on the film where the black is? Hard to tell in your picks. If it is just transfer you can probably remove it with detailing clay and/or a compound like Meguiar's Ultimate Compound. Don't take it to a body shop unless you know their reputation. Who installed the film? I would take it to them and have them look at it. I am thinking worse case you replace the film. They had that film on a Porsche in a Daytona race and it had all kinds of impact marks(black donuts from tires) on it after the race. They pulled the film off the marks where all gone, and the paint looked flawless. So I think that your front bumper will be okay.
Have you tried anything on it yet?
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Old 07-07-2011, 12:58 AM   #5
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Trid to use soap+water and got some of it off. I think some of the film was scrapped away. The surface feels rough.
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:05 AM   #6
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Use a Mr. Clean magic eraser!
Chances are it will just wipe right off
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:50 AM   #7
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Just use some rubbing compound, should come right off. Looks to be just some transfer
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:29 AM   #8
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Okay, from the sound of it either way you don't need a repaint, nor do you need to visit a body shop unless they are the ones that installed the film. Always take the least aggressive step first, as in don't try sanding bug splatter off the front of your car when a little soap and water will do the job. The Mr.C magic eraser sounds safe enough. Just make sure the surfaces are wet; follow the instructions for the eraser for the best results, as with anything. Never use a true rubbing compound on your car. Rubbing compounds are made for single stage paints (older paints, pre 80's) that are in really made shape. Rubbing compound is not clear coat safe and would probably haze/scratch the 3M film. Like I stated before, if you are going to use a POLISHING compound (most polishing compounds are clear coat (modern paint system) safe. Make sure the car is in the shade and cool to the touch before trying to use any cleaning agents/chemicals or polishes. I would recommend contacting a professional installer for 3M films and have them help you take care of it to avoid damaging it further, past being salvageable. Here are some blurbs and Q&A's off the 3M Scotchgard film website. If in doubt and there is warranty on something contact a professional. The advice I have given you is from professional detailer's point of view, and any professional would recommend you seek a professional first. If they can't help you and they send you away with nothing done then follow the advice I gave you and what the website suggest. Sometimes the easiest/cheapest way through something is just living with it so you don't make it worse.

You should treat 3M film like the clear coat of your vehicle. 3M film is supplied with an OEM-approved clear coat. The film is constructed of thermoplastic urethane, a tough, conformable material that is covered by a clear coat layer. The film and clear coat layers contain UV protectants to counteract harmful ultraviolet rays that can cause yellowing.
Q. How is Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film maintained?
A. Once applied, refrain from washing the vehicle in an automated car wash for 24 hours. Washing after that time presents no problem, and no special care need be taken for the film.
Q. Can I use wax over Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film?
A. Yes. When waxing the vehicle, some wax may build up along the film edges. This can easily be removed when dry with a soft cloth, such as a 3M™ High Performance Cloth. Do not use any waxes containing dyes or waxes that are not recommended for urethanes. Abrasive polishes and/or rubbing compounds are not to be used.
Q. What products does 3M recommend to best maintain Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film?
A. 3M makes a variety of products to help maintain the beauty of your vehicle. 3M™ Car Wash Soap (3M Part #39000), 3M™ Show Car Paste Wax (3M Part #39526 and 3M™ Perfect-It Show Car Liquid Wax (3M Part #39026). The best surface cloth to use is the 3M™ Perfect-IT™ III Detailing Cloth (3M Part #39016) since others may scratch the surface of the film.
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:29 AM   #9
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Thanks for the suggestions all..
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Old 07-07-2011, 02:49 AM   #10
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What about some Scratch-X 2.0?
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:11 AM   #11
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If you can't have a pro take care of it I would find a clear coat safe tar/bug remover like Stoner's Tarminator or a 3M product that is similar like 3M General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner 15 oz.,part#-38983. Or a natural citrus based cleaner like Stoner's XENIT. If you know whether or not the black on your 3m film is rubber or plastic and can find Mothers R3 Racing Rubber Remover, it might safely remove it. Before you try anything I would mask off the area around where you will be working so that if something affects the film it will be isolated to a small area that may already be damaged. If you are gonna use a cleaning agent I recommend first wetting the area with some water(soapy water if you want some extra protection) then applying the cleaning agent/chemical on a soft cloth, not directly to the vehicle. You never want to apply a cleaning chemical undiluted directly to anything that you are concerned about damaging. You can even use the magic eraser with the cleaning chemicals that I recommended to give it extra bite. As far as an abrasive polish or compound, 3M say not to use abrasives as I posted for you already. However, if you are carefully and stop rubbing with a abrasive once the black is gone then you should be safe. Then go over that area with a light polish or cleaner wax to remove and light scratches or haze left from your rubbing or the initial impact that put the marks there. If you don't have any microfiber(MF) clothes I recommend buying some. A microfiber(MF) on its own will remove a lot of things; dry or damp with water. Add a cleaner or polish to one and it will work even better/faster. You can fold a damp MF clothe in half and cover a fingertip with it and rub to remove many things. If you use the MF as a polish applicator fold it in half twice (fold it into fours) and apply the polish/compound that way; you can fold the MF 3 times to make a more compact/thicker applicator. If you don't want to go buying stuff that you may never use again then contact a reputable detailer in your area and get them to check it out and tell you exactly what they will do and charge to correct the issue. If you aren't happy with what they say try someone else or do it yourself. If you start mild and work up to a more aggressive approach then you should stay safe. I would buy the most aggressive detailing clay you can find and try that first (always use a detailing clay lubricant/quick detailer). If claying doesn't work then go with polish or compound. I wouldn't start with Scratch X, maybe Ultimate Compound. Whenever you rub anything onto the surface of your car always use straight line motion, not circular; preferably parallel to the length of the defect/scratch you are trying to remove as not to create a new pattern of scratches. Sometimes rubbing perpendicular gives quicker results, just make sure you are instilling new scratches that will make more work for you.
Hope all goes well and that I haven't overwhelmed you with so much. Just try to give as much info to help you out. If I was in the area i would take care of it for you.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:46 PM   #12
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sorry to hear that possible clean/wax/buff and last a sticker bandaid.. good luck and ps great color.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:58 PM   #13
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god this is why I hate people. I walked out the other day to a scratch on mine as well
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:28 PM   #14
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god this is why I hate people. I walked out the other day to a scratch on mine as well

I feel your pain I've decided to have a profesional look at and get an opinion. I called the shop where the clear bra was installed and was told to seek professional help. If not done right, the clear bra could be damage and would need replacing.
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Old 07-08-2011, 03:23 PM   #15
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Glad you are seeking professional help for your issues.LOL JK
Hope the pros help you out right and save your clear film and some cash.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:38 PM   #16
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Best thing you can use to see if it'll come off is paint thinner honestly. Just rub lightly and keep looking at the rag to see if the black is coming off. If it's not stop rubbing...
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:40 PM   #17
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That went through the clear bra for sure and will need to be resprayed if you want it 100% again. Theres no doubt about that.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:36 PM   #18
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That really sucks, I hate people that either don't pay attention to what they're doing or even worse, realize what they did and flee. Good luck
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Old 07-10-2011, 11:20 PM   #19
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That really sucks, I hate people that either don't pay attention to what they're doing or even worse, realize what they did and flee. Good luck
I've met people who think it's okay to rub/scrape up against or bounce off of other car's bumpers when parking. When I object, their response is usually, "Well, that's why it's called a bumper!"

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Old 07-11-2011, 07:47 PM   #20
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Took it to the Gillman Subaru/Mitsubishi body shop and they removed the paint for free
The clear bra prevented paint from getting onto the bumper. Clear bra FTW
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:58 PM   #21
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Awesome. Glad you got it sorted out.
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:29 PM   #22
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Yet another great reason to invest in a clear bra. Glad it worked out.

It could have been worse. I'd hate to see what your car would look like if you ever park it anywhere in NC. No seriously it's that bad over here consider yourself lucky to be in TX.
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I've met people who think it's okay to rub/scrape up against or bounce off of other car's bumpers when parking. When I object, their response is usually, "Well, that's why it's called a bumper!"

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Those ppl should be dragged across fresh asphalt then dipped in airplane paint thinner.
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