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Old 07-27-2002, 06:49 PM   #1
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Default $944= 214.9 AWP/224.2FT/lb(cheapest and best route for power!)

Now, I hope this doesnt start a debate among some of yous, but I have the sheets! So, heres my suggestions for quick and easy power, and most of all... CHEAP power!

Greddy Profec B = $275

TurboXS turbo back(stealth) = $669

both bought brand new, and proff. installed. I spent less than $1000, and put down 215 AWP, and a sweet 224.2 ft.lb

The dyno is www.BMTranny.com in NJ, the first ever in NJ. Close to 7-10 wrx's showed up to put down the power. Surrounded by Unichips, and 3" $1000+ exhaust, I figured I would put down the least of all. I was dead wrong. 2 others with TXS stage II put down close to the exact same numbers as me!!! 1 with same xhaust, other with BPM, both with unichips! We were all shocked. Not knocking those guys in the least bit, there cars were very nice, but the UNICHIP? That day cleared the way for the AFC. NotoriousWRX ( damn did that sound good, and smell good ) started with 225, with about 15 min of tuning dished out almost 20 more ponies!. No unichip, just great power.

I ran pig rich at a ratio of 10:0!!!!!!! The guys at BM told me to get an AFC, and ill easily pick up 15hp if not more in the fuel filled midrange.

So, there it is, questions anyone?

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Old 07-27-2002, 07:07 PM   #2
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Congrats on the new numbers! Those are very impressive numbers for the mods you have. I am going the same route as you but with a EBC and S-AFC together.

Not to jump off subject, but how would you rate your experience with them and their ability on tuning? I plan on having them tune my WRX as well. Thanks.
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Old 07-27-2002, 07:09 PM   #3
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Thumbs up 214.9 awp

how much boost? no air filter? no uppipe?

thanks al
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Old 07-27-2002, 10:38 PM   #4
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Default Re: $944= 214.9 AWP/224.2FT/lb(cheapest and best route for power!)

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Originally posted by NickWRX
Now, I hope this doesnt start a debate among some of yous, but I have the sheets! So, heres my suggestions for quick and easy power, and most of all... CHEAP power!

Greddy Profec B = $275

TurboXS turbo back(stealth) = $669

both bought brand new, and proff. installed. I spent less than $1000, and put down 215 AWP, and a sweet 224.2 ft.lb

The dyno is www.BMTranny.com in NJ, the first ever in NJ. Close to 7-10 wrx's showed up to put down the power. Surrounded by Unichips, and 3" $1000+ exhaust, I figured I would put down the least of all. I was dead wrong. 2 others with TXS stage II put down close to the exact same numbers as me!!! 1 with same xhaust, other with BPM, both with unichips! We were all shocked. Not knocking those guys in the least bit, there cars were very nice, but the UNICHIP? That day cleared the way for the AFC. NotoriousWRX ( damn did that sound good, and smell good ) started with 225, with about 15 min of tuning dished out almost 20 more ponies!. No unichip, just great power.

I ran pig rich at a ratio of 10:0!!!!!!! The guys at BM told me to get an AFC, and ill easily pick up 15hp if not more in the fuel filled midrange.

So, there it is, questions anyone?

Nick:
Does not suprise me at all. This is why I hate mail order maps. Had someone been there to tune those unichips those guys would have picked up power and made more then you. But, They where tuned on another car in another location with different gas.. Out of the 4 WRX's here running TXS unichips ALL of them ran faster at the strip when I suggested they take the chip out. All but 2 sold the chip off.

Get the AFC and go back there for a tune. Get that AF to run 11.5 to 1 and you will indeed pick up power. Do not do this on a reset ECU. Turn the AFC off and drive 40 miles. Then turn it on and have them tune it. If you tune on a reset ECU you will be tuning on the default RICH and low advance map. LAter.. You lean out and ping and your tune is worthless.

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Old 07-28-2002, 11:58 AM   #5
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How much boost were you running? Does the Profec B hold full boost all the way to redline?

Thanks,

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Old 07-28-2002, 12:42 PM   #6
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How much boost were you running? Does the Profec B hold full boost all the way to redline?

Thanks,

Dale
Depends on atmospheric conditions. It will not hold 15psi at redline in 4th or 5th with a stock exhaust.
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Old 07-28-2002, 02:01 PM   #7
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Yeah, my bad guys...

Low Boost setting: .90 bar = about 12+- lbs

High Boost setting: 1.2 bar = about 16.5-17 lbs

Mind you, these were read off of my Blitz Dual TT, which reads a little high in my opinion.

And I forgot to mention, in low boost I put down 197 AWP. So from low to high, I made more than 15 HP!

But yes, it holds boost great in warm weather, cold its a lil spikey. But BM said boost fell off a lil bit in High Boost near redline. But still, it holds great.

QTmile: silencer removed, no air filter, no up-pipe

AZScoobie: thanks for the advice man, I really appreciate that.

Need4Boost: Yeah, BMTranny are great guys. All i needed to do is look around at there place(DSM heaven) and I found all I needed to feel good about them. They took Notorious's car that put down 225 first pull, and dialed in different numbers on his AFC by looking at his midrange curve on the sheet. Within 15 min he had almost 20 more HP! It was cool to see them go to work. And now that we have been there, and they have used our cars, there familiar with them. CALL THEM NOW!

Thanks for the replys and the compliments

Nick
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Old 07-28-2002, 02:47 PM   #8
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Its nice to see others finally realizing the true potential of the WRX without WASTING tons of $$.

I'm qurious what my car would dyno @.

~v6

Like I have said all along... :monkey: unichip
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Old 07-28-2002, 10:21 PM   #9
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do you guys think a WRX with MBC at 16-16.5 psi with catless uppipe and 3 inch catless dp will put down similar #s?
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Old 07-29-2002, 04:55 PM   #10
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Isn't the TurboXS Stage II tuned for 15psi?

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Old 07-29-2002, 05:13 PM   #11
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Jon: Im not sure what the XS stage II is set at, i thought it was 16, but the other guys turned up there XS manual boost controllers to close to 16.5 or right around there. They went from around 205 AWP, to 215 when turning up the boost.

ElectronSmurf: I believe you could put down close to 200 AWP. Who knows, I didnt believe I could put down that much. So theres hope

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Old 07-30-2002, 11:10 AM   #12
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If there was a good S-AFC tuner locally then I'll pick one up, but there's no 4 wheel dynos near Rochester as far as I know.

-Mike

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Old 07-30-2002, 11:22 AM   #13
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Think about what you just said for a moment.

I believe what he was saying is that he doesn't have an aftermarket air filter or up pipe.

He could run with no filter in the airbox, but he'd have an awfully hard time putting down 215hp without an uppipe

VV

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what's the point of dynoing a car in trim that you ca't run on the street?

Yea Unichips blow ass...I made X more HP than you and I have no air filter or uppipe I bet they drove home faster and didn't spend hours putting their uppipe back on.

If there was a good S-AFC tuner locally then I'll pick one up, but there's no 4 wheel dynos near Rochester as far as I know.

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Old 07-30-2002, 11:28 AM   #14
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lol that's what happens when I try and do too many things at once

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Old 07-30-2002, 11:40 AM   #15
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That was too funny!
Quote:
Originally posted by VetteVert
Think about what you just said for a moment.

I believe what he was saying is that he doesn't have an aftermarket air filter or up pipe.

He could run with no filter in the airbox, but he'd have an awfully hard time putting down 215hp without an uppipe

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Old 07-30-2002, 11:50 AM   #16
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Just a quick observation. It's all about the boost, without a decent BC, you won't make good dyno numbers. You've got to be able to hold the boost at 5.0-6.0k. I'm not saying hold full boost, just higher than stock. That is pretty much where everyone is seeing the big numbers.

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Old 08-01-2002, 03:07 AM   #17
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You could save almost $200 off that setup by using a $20 MBC instead of a $200+ Greddy Profec B. So really you can get that same power for about $750ish.

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