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Old 02-22-2001, 03:29 PM   #1
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Post Building a rally car, need your help

Taking a FWD 1988 XT-6 and wanting to make it 4WD and better suspension for Rallying.

Need you help Rally Masters!!!

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Old 02-22-2001, 04:29 PM   #2
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I'm not a Expert, but I do have some Rally experience (12 years), Go to bens rally page a buy a trun key car. A XT fw is not a good base to start from anyway. A good Roll cage will cost about $1,000 or more, Many of the car's on ben's page are very negotiable, I would not recommend 4 wheel drive for a first rally car anyway,I would go for a Golf,RX-7, ETC. Spend your money on doing rally's. Not building a rally car. That's my 2 cents. RALLY ON ////
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Old 02-22-2001, 07:05 PM   #3
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There were several XTs that were rally cars. It is a complicated chassie and there are limited parts for it. As long as it does not have the air suspension it would be OK but not ideal. It is also a bit short on power.
All in all it isn't a bad car to rally and it shure would look nice! But just be aware of the shortcommings.
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Old 02-22-2001, 07:54 PM   #4
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Well, the big thing is chuck wieght. The XT6 is almost the same wieght as the impreza. You are lucky that you already have the steel springs.

Visit www.kingsprings.com to see if they have any toys for you. Note that the 4wd sedan rear springs & struts will give the rear a lift, so if you can get a longer front set it will be higher.
Also addco has sway bars that are HUGE. Struts will be a bitch as the fronts are early legacy and the rears are 85-90 subaru genaric.

Since the 4wd conversion will net you a open class rating, you might as well look into turbocharging it. If you need some ideas I have plumbed in a Turbo on my hybrid wagon.

Last I will end with while you are playing with the suspention you might want to make AL bushings for all the mounts and stuff. Cheaper and better than the replacement factory bushings.
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Old 02-23-2001, 05:16 AM   #5
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I'd have to agree with Tommy. I don't have his experience but I've been looking into getting into rallying and everyone and anyone with experience will tell you that you don't want to build your first rally car. It'll cost you five times what you think it will and you'll be really upset when you wad it into a tree your first year or worse yet you take so much pride in the car you don't push it hard enough to learn anything.

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Old 02-23-2001, 06:18 AM   #6
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I agree with Tony on this one. Buy a built rally car. It will save you a ton of money. I built my first rally car. A free celica turned into a $13,000 project. I'm a licensed ProRally tech inspector, so if you still decide to build your own car and have specific questions feel free to pm me.

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Old 02-23-2001, 06:19 AM   #7
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so TOMMY B Where is bens Rally page located?

What's the addy??
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Old 02-23-2001, 06:37 AM   #8
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Here you go:
http://www.cwl.com/bensrallypage/

Also go to the links section and check out Rally-L and Specialstage.com.

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Old 02-23-2001, 07:02 AM   #9
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you can build you own car if you want... just make sure you have lots of experienced rally folks walkin u through it...

also... XT... nah... dont bother... not enough parts available.. and dont kid yourself.. you are going to hit stuff!!

do you HAVE to have a subie for your first car?

i am in the market for a rally car myself. i am currently looking at Omni's, 510's, GTi's and the likes... those are fairly decent starter cars with ample parts in supply... they're everywhere...

and yes... go to
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Old 02-23-2001, 08:19 AM   #10
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Subie Gal, TOMMY B here, Can you Promote me to the Status of a "Scooby Specialist"?? I Think I have put in my Time. RALLY ON ////
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Old 02-23-2001, 08:30 AM   #11
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if i had the power... hehehehe i would...

you'll have to wait til u hit 555... i cant change that...

i think only NickCat or Imprezer can

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Old 02-24-2001, 12:21 AM   #12
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I am possibly in the maket to sell my CSX rally car. Group 5 trim 2.2 liter turbo 16 to 20 psi boost pressure , bilstien coil overs, sparco, autometer,majestic,msd,9 lb flywheel,getrag 555 gearbox, seamwelded....to much to list. This is a serious car with hold the #$@& on torque.

I also have another caged dodge shadow turbo 2 hillclimb car. If you are interested E-mail me at [email protected]
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Old 02-24-2001, 07:37 PM   #13
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I disagree that there is no point in making a rally car out of a XT. There is a few very good points, not the least of which is that the XT's areodynamics are a world better than anything else in the US rally scene. nothing like .29CD, low frontal area, and a low coefficent of lift.

Also it seems that the XT is a bit lighter than the impreza.

Best of all if you are running open class you can do basicly anything you want, incuding switching to the Impreza suspention on all 4 corners. WRX STi drivetrain should go in, but the low hood line my prevent that from being a straight swap.

However I'll second the idea of buying a decent used rally car if all you want to do is get into rally. I think it would be a good idea even if you also have a goal of learnign to build rally cars too. That way you can learn about the REAL WORLD problems befoer you cut up your project car.
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Old 02-26-2001, 12:23 AM   #14
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I fixed the pictures in this thread
http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/001659.html

now you can actually see pics. Notice the back has been lifted, he'd like to lift the front up even if we decide not to go rally. Where would one go to find lifting springs and what not??

It's a pretty cool car, just needs a few things to be complete for a recreational rally car.

Thanks - Jon
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Old 02-26-2001, 09:29 AM   #15
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I was looking at buying the cheepest Civic out there (used) and build that up. Parts should be pretty cheep and if I crash it, it's one less Civic out there.

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Old 02-27-2001, 06:26 PM   #16
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I've thought about building another rally car out of a 92-95 Civic Si. Had one of these for a street car & really enjoyed it. Although a rear driver would probably be more fun. Sure did enjoy my Fire Arrow. Nissan 200sx maybe.


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