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Old 03-20-2001, 09:22 PM   #1
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Smile C.T. stage 12 mpeg: a quarter-gig of fun!

It's FTPing up now, so please don't hit it until it's done--about 1:30AM EST if @Home doesn't die on me.
www.rallywrx.com/ct12.mpg

This new web host has 500MB of storage and unlimited bandwidth. We'll see about that!



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Old 03-20-2001, 09:50 PM   #2
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hurry hurry hurry! ":^) I just saw CT11... sweet!!
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Old 03-20-2001, 09:55 PM   #3
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It's not working.
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Old 03-20-2001, 10:32 PM   #4
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Sweet!

Somthing to give my burner a workout tomorow morning...post again when its completely up, please.
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Old 03-21-2001, 01:17 AM   #5
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hehe.... nice! I love the straight right at about 16:20. Sounds like 4th gear kinda high?

man I love high speed at work! ":^)
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Old 03-21-2001, 05:38 AM   #6
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It completed fine just about when I said it would last night. I was asleep at the time, however...
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Old 03-21-2001, 07:02 AM   #7
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Worked great. does anyone know where to get any other stages? Does anyone know who the driver is? And what car? Just curious. Thanks a lot for posting this.

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Old 03-21-2001, 07:13 AM   #8
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Cool

Ummmm, I'm the driver.

1988 Toyota Celica Alltrac.
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Old 03-21-2001, 07:18 AM   #9
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ARgggg, I started downloading it before I went to class this morning and my roommate unplugged my computer from the cable modem after it got to 205MB.....now I'll have to wait until tomorrow morning to try again, it was fast earlier....argg
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Old 03-21-2001, 07:20 AM   #10
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Cool man!

That colorful blur to the right at about 14:05 is me, skidplatez, MotoRob & co.

That's pretty sweet.
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Old 03-21-2001, 11:09 AM   #11
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Nice!!! I like.
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Old 03-21-2001, 11:18 AM   #12
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Add that one to the NAS. Tee Hee Heee.

Gotta love a T3.

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Old 03-21-2001, 01:53 PM   #13
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still downloading..but i can't complain..only been downloading for 20 minutes and i am about 40% done..so not TOO bad..but still

i look forward to watching it
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Old 03-21-2001, 05:19 PM   #14
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Blah, cable has been slow today...was only getting about 20k...with spikes to around 60, and a max of about 220k...but i supposed it can be expected considering the guys on their T3's where rapping it.

Nice drive. THe pace notes seemed kinda iffy. Definatly not FIA snuff. There should have been a distance pace, and there wasnt it was just kinda guess and gamble. Maybe the co-driver wasnt saying the distance pace, or didnt know the distances...oh well.
BTW, is the co driver male or female? I cant really tell.

Somthing else i noticed too...and im not flaming here, just pointing out some areas that i think you could benefit from.
I would take that BOV OFF the car. It was bleeding boost under full acceleration. And on some of the steaper uphill switchback where the car was gasping for HP, the more you put your foot into it, the more that BOV blew.So your going around a corner, in the wrong gear, downshift, blip the throttle, and *PHISSSSSHHHH!!!!* you loose all your boost pressure, and and the car has to dig. I would definatly consider removing it. A little bit of turbo lag, and surge isnt going to hurt THAT much. Plus with that BOV on there, left foot braking becomes totally worthless. Yeah it makes a cool sound, but IMHO its not really worth it.
Also, get over the fear of the gravel. Alot of corners that you took you lifted. And on the ones you powered through you made excelant time, and carried good speed through. Youve got 4WD, and a turbo...use it, keep that sucked to the floor. Select your gear before the corner, power through it, bounce it off hte rev limiter if you have to (that 3S-GTE is bullet proof, it wont hurt it) and sail.

Thanks for the video, its going into my perminent collection.
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Old 03-21-2001, 06:21 PM   #15
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Buck-O, thanks for the advice!

1) I'll talk to my mechanic about the BOV.

2) The prepared notes were much better than that. It's first time we've used them and we agreed to thin them out a bit. I have enough trouble remembering right from left. The co-driver is my wife Daphne, who is female.

3) Watch the video again keeping in mind that we still have the stock brakes. One or two hard applications and they'd go away for a while.

4) I'm still kind of new at this. One of the reasons we make these tapes is as a learning tool. I get faster every event, but I still think too much in the corners. Using pace notes for the first time exacerbated this problem.

So, do you have experience with Alltracs?
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Old 03-21-2001, 10:11 PM   #16
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That was AWESOME!
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Old 03-21-2001, 10:27 PM   #17
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1. Cool beans. IMHO, BOV's are the biggest lie in "performance tuning" today. I just dont like them.

2. Hehe, ok, thats what i thought. I figured she was a she...but every now and then she would say somthing and i was like "well maybe its his little brother or son, or somthing". No hard feeling Daphne? Well thats cool. Those style of pacenotes are difficult to read for your first time. Once you get used to them though you'll never go back. After a while you wonder why they even call a club rally route book a "route book".

3. Ok, that makes a bit more sence. Ive always felt that the GT-4's brakes where preaty decent all around. Im not to keen on wear though. So you would have a better idea then i would.

4. Understandable. Beleive it or not i still am to. But ive had a preaty good amount of driving in general, so racing line, proper gear, driftangle, and all basic advanced driving mechanic are preaty seconed nature to me. Just from stage 11 to 12 i could tell you got faster. You seemed to have alot more confidence in the car come stage 12, hehe, maybe a bit more confidence in yourself for that matter. Thinking in the corners is the worst thing to do. Of course you now that. With a 4WD car the driving technique is kinda backwards. Your countersteer is very minimal, and when the car feel like ots coming around, usually the best thing is to keep your foot in it. They are really difficult to understand cars, but can be driven far beyond normal limits once you get to know them.

Am i a big all-trac guy...no. Through most of HS (im currently only 19, graduated at 17) my biggest thing was Honduh's. I know the inside and out of a honda. But after HS, i wised up, and after people started not appreciating my car (pm me for more details on that) i finally got out of the honda "scene". And moved to the Toyota camp. Im really a big fan of Toyota engineering. And being a fan of rallying, im well aware of the ST-165, ST-185, and ST-205's heritage. So Toyota has become my main interest. Although Subaru follows a close seconed, just becuase most people underestimate a Subaru. But i do know a decent amount about Toyota engines. Mostly the 4AGE from the AE86 (Corolla GT-S). And im trying to learn as much as i can about the 3S-GTE (being the most powerful 4 cylinder ever made), and other Toyota engines as i can. So i could tell you just about anything about a GT-S, but i know little about the All-Tracs at this point. But its a constant learning process. So ask me that question again in a couple of years.
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Old 03-22-2001, 12:05 AM   #18
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I own a ST185 myself. It's a right hand drive car that I brought back from GB. If you need any advice as to modify it I would be more than happy to give you a helping hand.
The stock brakes are hideous. They fade like hell. Even with slotted rotors and race pads! I would change them as soon as possible.
The gearbox should be ok upto 400hp or so.
You might wanna look into a Motec with ALS(Anti Lag System). I have it on mine, it works great.
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Old 03-22-2001, 01:21 AM   #19
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Your running a Bang-Bang on a ST-185?

What type of header are you using...damn, i wouldent consider running an ALS. Hehe, although ALS may jsut be the thing he needs to remove that BOV.

Although, going from a BOV to an ALS system would be like going from a Geo to a WRX.

Anyway, i may ask you some more questions about your car. Like i said, im more of a Trueno/Levin guy. But i really like the 3S-GTE and would love to know more about it.
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Old 03-22-2001, 06:57 AM   #20
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You seemed to have alot more confidence in the car come stage 12, hehe, maybe a bit more confidence in yourself for that matter.
Don't discount the road surface. Stage 11 had fresh loose gravel spread on most of it and everytime I strayed off the swept path, I lost traction. Stage 12 was mostly packed dirt and gravel and had excellent traction everywhere.
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Old 03-23-2001, 05:45 PM   #21
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hummm, maybe i shouldnt use my 56k modem to try and get the video. ha ha....kinda sad though.
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