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Old 02-18-2015, 11:59 AM   #1
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Looking to see any good reputation shops that could install accuair e level for 2011 Wrx.

I'm around the Northshore area.

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Old 02-18-2015, 12:01 PM   #2
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Talk to peasouped or 25rsti. Also check with Boxer Motorworks in Salem.
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Old 02-18-2015, 01:57 PM   #3
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Why would you ever want to do this to a WRX?
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Old 02-18-2015, 02:19 PM   #4
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Why would you ever want to do this to a WRX?
Why not? All the cool kids are doing it.
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Old 02-18-2015, 02:33 PM   #5
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It makes the ride crap, looks like crap, drags your car on the ground for no reason, and it's a Subaru. Do this to a Honda, not a WRX.

I guess I just remember when Subaru was in the WRC and competitive. That is what a Subaru is to me. Not some slammed monstrosity that can't even drive over the frost heaves without rupturing its oil pan.

The 22b would hang its head in shame if it read this.... and it could, you know, actually read and have emotions..
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Old 02-18-2015, 02:54 PM   #6
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It makes the ride crap, looks like crap, drags your car on the ground for no reason, and it's a Subaru. Do this to a Honda, not a WRX.

I guess I just remember when Subaru was in the WRC and competitive. That is what a Subaru is to me. Not some slammed monstrosity that can't even drive over the frost heaves without rupturing its oil pan.

The 22b would hang its head in shame if it read this.... and it could, you know, actually read and have emotions..
If you're going to lower your car, the most comfortable option is bags. The "it's a rally car" BS is old, these haven't been "rally cars" in ages.
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Old 02-18-2015, 03:23 PM   #7
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It makes the ride crap, looks like crap, drags your car on the ground for no reason, and it's a Subaru. Do this to a Honda, not a WRX.

I guess I just remember when Subaru was in the WRC and competitive. That is what a Subaru is to me. Not some slammed monstrosity that can't even drive over the frost heaves without rupturing its oil pan.

The 22b would hang its head in shame if it read this.... and it could, you know, actually read and have emotions..
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Old 02-18-2015, 03:24 PM   #8
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I have never driven in anything with bags and considered it comfortable. More comfortable than cheap coils? Sure, but why is there a need to lower these things? They are already low cars as it is. They also make these cars handle like crap.

The STI is still used in Rally. Even in the WRC there are independent teams using it. Just because it isn't as competitive as the much smaller cars doesn't mean it isn't still a rally car.

It just makes me sad that the stanced crowd is destroying these great cars for no reason other than to be "cool". Function over form, otherwise, why would you even buy a Subaru?

I know I sound like a bitter old man but it is really annoying when you are looking to buy a car and everything other car you look at requires hours of work and thousands of dollars just to get back to factory functionality.
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Old 02-18-2015, 03:28 PM   #9
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Do this to a Honda, not a WRX.
Hey, we don't want him either
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Old 02-18-2015, 03:35 PM   #10
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Hey, we don't want him either


Scion then, maybe? Do this to an xD. You can't make that thing any worse than it already is.
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Old 02-18-2015, 03:37 PM   #11
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Geesh, with all this backlash, you guys must have all pitched in to buy his car.

Bagging the suspension is not in my taste either.

However, "Looking to see any good reputation shops that could install accuair e level for 2011 Wrx" was the question. It wasn't "What do you guys think about me doing this to my car?"

It's sickening to see car enthusiasts bag on others because they want to mod a car in a way that doesn't fit their personal taste.

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Old 02-18-2015, 03:43 PM   #12
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It's not like installing an air suspension requires a set of special skills.

Install air struts
Bolt air tank and pump in trunk
Run a few air lines
Run a few wires for power and for the controller

This isn't complicated.
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Old 02-18-2015, 04:11 PM   #13
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Everything was answered in post number 2.

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Old 02-18-2015, 04:22 PM   #14
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It's not a matter of taste. It is a matter of wastefulness. Every single bagged car I have seen has run stupid amounts of camber. This burns through tires in 10k miles or less. It ruins wheel bearings and axles prematurely. It causes stress in suspension bits that were never designed to be stressed that way. Yeah, I get it. His money, his choice but guess what? The other part of that factor is safety.

Now he is driving a car with unevenly worn tires meaning he can't stop as well, with screwed up suspension geometry meaning he can't steer as well, and when he busts his oil pan on a pot hole, he will become a road obstacle. That is my problem along with everyone else on the road. It is the same thing as some kid riding around in a brodozer with 20 inches of lift and a differential at decapitation level. It's a safety issue if not done properly and within reason, and lets me honest, most people doing this type of mod isn't going for the "in reason" approach.

There are reasonable mods you can do to a street car that can actually improve safety and functionality of your vehicle. Bagging a car generally isn't one of them.

As for the question, Accuair lists Lowrider Depot in Foxborough as a dealer. They probably have a list of shops who install and are experienced with the systems. I would give them a call and get their recommendations.
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Old 02-18-2015, 04:27 PM   #15
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It's not a matter of taste. It is a matter of wastefulness. Every single bagged car I have seen has run stupid amounts of camber. This burns through tires in 10k miles or less. It ruins wheel bearings and axles prematurely. It causes stress in suspension bits that were never designed to be stressed that way. Yeah, I get it. His money, his choice but guess what? The other part of that factor is safety.

Now he is driving a car with unevenly worn tires meaning he can't stop as well, with screwed up suspension geometry meaning he can't steer as well, and when he busts his oil pan on a pot hole, he will become a road obstacle. That is my problem along with everyone else on the road. It is the same thing as some kid riding around in a brodozer with 20 inches of lift and a differential at decapitation level. It's a safety issue if not done properly and within reason, and lets me honest, most people doing this type of mod isn't going for the "in reason" approach.

There are reasonable mods you can do to a street car that can actually improve safety and functionality of your vehicle. Bagging a car generally isn't one of them.

As for the question, Accuair lists Lowrider Depot in Foxborough as a dealer. They probably have a list of shops who install and are experienced with the systems. I would give them a call and get their recommendations.
If he wants to waste, that's his prerogative, not yours.

But yes, the safety issues associated with hellaflush are a major problem.

They've banned lowered suspensions in parts of Canada because of this.

It's costing you and I money also.

Every time I insure another car, one of the questions I have to answer is "does this vehicle have a modified suspension?"

Hellaretards are quickly ruining things for the rest of us.
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Old 02-18-2015, 04:38 PM   #16
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It's not a matter of taste. It is a matter of wastefulness. Every single bagged car I have seen has run stupid amounts of camber. This burns through tires in 10k miles or less. It ruins wheel bearings and axles prematurely. It causes stress in suspension bits that were never designed to be stressed that way. Yeah, I get it. His money, his choice but guess what? The other part of that factor is safety.

Now he is driving a car with unevenly worn tires meaning he can't stop as well, with screwed up suspension geometry meaning he can't steer as well, and when he busts his oil pan on a pot hole, he will become a road obstacle. That is my problem along with everyone else on the road. It is the same thing as some kid riding around in a brodozer with 20 inches of lift and a differential at decapitation level. It's a safety issue if not done properly and within reason, and lets me honest, most people doing this type of mod isn't going for the "in reason" approach.

There are reasonable mods you can do to a street car that can actually improve safety and functionality of your vehicle. Bagging a car generally isn't one of them.

As for the question, Accuair lists Lowrider Depot in Foxborough as a dealer. They probably have a list of shops who install and are experienced with the systems. I would give them a call and get their recommendations.
That is a very informative, and well written response. I never looked at it that way, and appreciate the insight.
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Old 02-18-2015, 04:42 PM   #17
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Old 02-18-2015, 04:51 PM   #18
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I guess I just remember when Subaru was in the WRC and competitive. That is what a Subaru is to me.
My Camry is a NASCAR racer and my Audi is a killer B monster! Manufacturers race for image, not reality. Subarus used in racing today have few parts in common with a street car, just like any other professional race car you see.
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My Camry is a NASCAR racer and my Audi is a killer B monster! Manufacturers race for image, not reality. Subarus used in racing today have few parts in common with a street car, just like any other professional race car you see.
Have you seen the new Camry?




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Old 02-18-2015, 05:01 PM   #20
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My Camry is a NASCAR racer and my Audi is a killer B monster! Manufacturers race for image, not reality. Subarus used in racing today have few parts in common with a street car, just like any other professional race car you see.
Wait, so you are telling me the Camry isn't a V8 RWD monster?

Yeah, this is pretty valid and hard to argue when you are talking the higher tiers of the sport, but you do have close to stock WRXs and STIs (even Ls and RSs in Open Lite) at the grass roots level.
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:03 PM   #21
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:05 PM   #22
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It's not a matter of taste. It is a matter of wastefulness. Every single bagged car I have seen has run stupid amounts of camber. This burns through tires in 10k miles or less. It ruins wheel bearings and axles prematurely. It causes stress in suspension bits that were never designed to be stressed that way. Yeah, I get it. His money, his choice but guess what? The other part of that factor is safety.

I beg to differ. This is some Japanese dude's car and he is bagged but hasn't run into any of the problems you mentioned above.
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Old 02-18-2015, 10:39 PM   #23
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I was planning to go to KDDesigns in RI to get mine done.
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Have you ever seen the roads in Japan?

Have you ever seen the roads in North America?


It's fine for a show car, it doesn't work, and is not safe, on a car you are going to be running 75mph down the highway.
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Old 02-18-2015, 11:24 PM   #25
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Have you ever seen LHD cars in Japan?

Have ever seen Chevy trucks in Japan?

Lulz. I kid, I kid. The picture is of a member's car. He lives in Potholeachusetts.
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