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Old 07-29-2002, 10:45 PM   #1
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Default Bad SUBIE drivers in Maine

Well the Maine forest rally was great.....except for one thing.
The story goes like this........I crew for an Audi rally team and on the way to ALL the service areas I noticed that alot of Subaru drivers were making alot of boner moves on the roads.
I was driving our cube van up a hill on rt 16 and was passed by a
fellow driving a black WRX with Jersey plates. The passing part
was no ig deal but when he did it up hill into a blind corner.....well
thats bad! Right after he pulled in the right lane a very large
logging truck came the other way. Now if he was just a few seconds later he would have taken us all out! I actually cought up to him and told him what I thought and he was very fortunate not to speak since I was rather angry at the young man.
Moral of the story is if you want to race and endanger your on life please cage your car and try the real thing! I want to make it clear that I have alot of respect for the Subie people that actually
get out and make a good show on the stages but for those of you that have more ego than brains please dont drive like an A-hole at rally events so we can continue to spectate and or participate in this wonderfull form of motorsports.
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Old 07-30-2002, 12:04 AM   #2
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Why is it always the wrx drivers who drive stupid?
Same reason my insurance went up last month?

Sorry to hear about that. There are always a few. Did the little prick even apologize or did he just look at you like you had 2 heads?
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Old 07-30-2002, 07:01 AM   #3
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I was with a group of about 14 New england cars.. but no NJ plates among them.

for the most part things went well, but I can't say we were completely void of boneheadedness.

either way, I was driving a blue lumina.. no subie here
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Old 07-30-2002, 08:23 AM   #4
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I had an incident with some !@%# in a rally blue RS with mud flaps, dual outlet tip and Mass plates.
I was driving out to a stage in my RS with my friend in a dodge shadow ahead of me and a Jeep cherokee ahead of him.
The guy in the Rally blue RS tries to pass all three of us but what he didnt realise is that the Cherokee was slowing to make a left turn. The dumba__ has to lock his brakes up complete with tire smoke to keep from hitting the Cherokee that was making a legit turn. The jeep plate was local so thanks! the guy in the Cherokee will be at the next town meeting making a fuss about our rally!
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Old 07-30-2002, 08:26 AM   #5
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I concur, there were alot of retards driving around up there. I do my fair share of fast driving up there every year but I do it all on the dirt roads and at night when no one is around. And I never pass rally traffic.
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Old 07-30-2002, 11:47 AM   #6
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Default Re: Bad SUBIE drivers in Maine

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Originally posted by iduaobrut
Well the Maine forest rally was great.....except for one thing.
The story goes like this........I crew for an Audi rally team and on the way to ALL the service areas I noticed that alot of Subaru drivers were making alot of boner moves on the roads.
I was driving our cube van up a hill on rt 16 and was passed by a
fellow driving a black WRX with Jersey plates. The passing part
was no ig deal but when he did it up hill into a blind corner.....well
thats bad! Right after he pulled in the right lane a very large
logging truck came the other way. Now if he was just a few seconds later he would have taken us all out! I actually cought up to him and told him what I thought and he was very fortunate not to speak since I was rather angry at the young man.
Moral of the story is if you want to race and endanger your on life please cage your car and try the real thing! I want to make it clear that I have alot of respect for the Subie people that actually
get out and make a good show on the stages but for those of you that have more ego than brains please dont drive like an A-hole at rally events so we can continue to spectate and or participate in this wonderfull form of motorsports.
if it was a Black RS old body style w/ new jersey tags... that could possibly be Billy... RS22b on here... (not a WRX .. good grief people get over the whole insurance thing)
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Old 07-30-2002, 12:14 PM   #7
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Hey Rally CSX, do you remember the license plate of that blue RS? When I was at Cherokee Trails I was in a service truck and got passed, along with three other cars on the outside of a blind corner across a double yellow line by some prick in a Rally Blue RS with mudflaps. His license plate was GROUPN I think. Then, about 2 or 3 miles down the road we passed the same guy on the side of the road waiting for someone!

If that guy is reading this, you're the reason why rally organizers have such a hard time putting on events. Nobody gives two *****s about how crazy you are, you just look like an idiot to everyone else on the road.

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Old 07-30-2002, 12:53 PM   #8
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not speaking for billy, but if it was a wrx then it definitely wasnt him, and he would be driving with a group anyway and not alone...and while he is a pretty crazy (but skilled) driver, that doesnt sound like him...he knows not to pass on roads like that
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Old 07-30-2002, 01:59 PM   #9
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OK people i admit it was me.

This was the problem. I was passing you guys which like you said wasnt a problem. THe problem arose when those damn passing sections up there end b/c they change every 10 feet. It also ended into very slight crest, which i could see over. I would have tried to pull into the group, but i thought that that would have caused more problems being i could see on coming traffic if it was there. So instead i just punched it more so i could get out of trouble for all of us.

I do understand the rules of rally and what we would have lost if something catastrophic would have happened.

I do realize that i put people in danger besides myself and noticed how much could have happened if there were oncoming traffic.

Again i want to apoligize like i did when i spoke to you later on.
And also to anyone else who was in that group of cars.

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Old 07-30-2002, 06:10 PM   #10
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Old 07-30-2002, 06:25 PM   #11
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Hey Rally CSX, do you remember the license plate of that blue RS? When I was at Cherokee Trails I was in a service truck and got passed, along with three other cars on the outside of a blind corner across a double yellow line by some prick in a Rally Blue RS with mudflaps. His license plate was GROUPN I think. Then, about 2 or 3 miles down the road we passed the same guy on the side of the road waiting for someone!

If that guy is reading this, you're the reason why rally organizers have such a hard time putting on events. Nobody gives two *****s about how crazy you are, you just look like an idiot to everyone else on the road.

JD

That is a guy from Illinois that is from Autoklub Polski in Chicago... Although a great gravel driver, he/they are a bit known for their crazy driving antics.
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Old 07-30-2002, 07:05 PM   #12
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WOW! I didnt expect to have most of you agree with me about
the wanna be rally drivers. You Subie guys are all right,maybe
I'll go buy a new WRX in the morning...........NAH to many on the road...JK....
Anyway maybe this will be a wake up call for those few turkeys that ruin the fun for the rest of us. When I need to blow of some steam I'll just crank the boost up and do a rally-X. kinda lame really but you dont have to worry about killing anybody.

Thanks for your support!

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Old 07-30-2002, 07:24 PM   #13
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So when did you get a black WRX Billy?

Anyone wana buy my 2001 WRX?
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Old 07-30-2002, 10:09 PM   #14
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I will admit to seeing some fairly bone-headed maneuvers among spectators, even amongst those in our caravan. However, I did happen to be on the viewing end of more than one event competitor driving in a manner that would make the Rally Master none too happy shall we say... like passing uphill over double yellow around a corner. I will not say what team or what car, because you know who you are . Granted, open class and/or Group N cars are damn quick, but stupidity is much faster .


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Old 07-30-2002, 10:58 PM   #15
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Yup.... I've seen my share of dumb ass moves by some people including subaru drivers at a Pro-rally.....

At the Charlevoix FIA rally (in 2000) in Quebec, Canada, an RS was going too fast on of the stages and hit a mini-van dead on coming up over a blind crest.....

The 2 people in the RS, we're injured and had to be taken away in an ambulance but it happened right at the end of one of the stages so the stage was cancelled.....

Doesn't mean you drive a Subaru (whichever one), driver errors is always the leading cause of accidents..... and being at a pro rally, some think they can do that also with their stock car....

there's a reason they have full roll cages, helmets, 5-6 pt belts, etc... and also the driver know-how....

It's one thing in going fast but it's another at being controlled.....

At pro rallies, respect the place your at..... lot of locals don't like idiots tearing up their neighbourhoods even if we bring a good boost to their economy....

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Old 07-31-2002, 04:30 PM   #16
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RS22b, I wasn't there, but you get points in my book for posting, coming clean, and understanding that it was crappy of you. Or maybe your negative points aren't as many at least...

Thank you for being a man about it at least.
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Old 07-31-2002, 05:07 PM   #17
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Err, stages (when hot) are closed off to all vehicles other than the rally cars. What was a van doing on the stage in the first place? Were you talking about the transit instead?

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Yup.... I've seen my share of dumb ass moves by some people including subaru drivers at a Pro-rally.....

At the Charlevoix FIA rally (in 2000) in Quebec, Canada, an RS was going too fast on of the stages and hit a mini-van dead on coming up over a blind crest.....

The 2 people in the RS, we're injured and had to be taken away in an ambulance but it happened right at the end of one of the stages so the stage was cancelled.....

Doesn't mean you drive a Subaru (whichever one), driver errors is always the leading cause of accidents..... and being at a pro rally, some think they can do that also with their stock car....

there's a reason they have full roll cages, helmets, 5-6 pt belts, etc... and also the driver know-how....

It's one thing in going fast but it's another at being controlled.....

At pro rallies, respect the place your at..... lot of locals don't like idiots tearing up their neighbourhoods even if we bring a good boost to their economy....

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Err, stages (when hot) are closed off to all vehicles other than the rally cars. What was a van doing on the stage in the first place? Were you talking about the transit instead?

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A transit stage is still a stage though.
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A transit stage is still a stage though.
And in a transit stage, all traffic laws are supposed to be followed, which makes it even worse...
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Err, stages (when hot) are closed off to all vehicles other than the rally cars. What was a van doing on the stage in the first place? Were you talking about the transit instead?

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Yes, normally they are closed off but come to Canadian events and if you show up early enough, you can drive on them and park in some great spots.... Not all stages aren't accessible though but exceptions are made.... especially large crowds are expected...

At the Charlevoix rally (http://www.rallye-charlevoix.com/), there was over 40 000 spectators over the 3 days of rallying..... This is a sanctionned FIA event.....

Here's a podium shot from last years event


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And in a transit stage, all traffic laws are supposed to be followed, which makes it even worse...

Supposed to is an important phrase there though. Not too many teams will take a penalty if they can drive a little fast on the transit and avoid doing so. Ive passed plenty of rally cars on the side of transit stage roads trying to fix their cars only to have them catch up to and pass us later trying to avoid a late penalty.
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