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Old 08-11-2011, 03:45 PM   #1
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Default Bernie Ecclestone: ‘People could be killed’ by electric F1 cars




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There’s been a number of revisions to the Formula One rules and regulations in the past few years, all aimed at reducing F1′s carbon footprint. For the 2014 season, a range of new standards will be introduced, including a mandatory replacement of the current 2.4-litre V8 engine setup by a more fuel efficient 1.6-litre turbocharged V6 layout.
In a bid to further reduce emissions, the FIA (international motorsport governing body) says F1 cars in 2014 will have to shut down their petrol motors and switch to an electric motor while in the pit lane.

It does make a lot of sense as pit lane speeds are heavily restricted anyway, so there’s no real need for all that power, and no real need to burn any fuel. Ecclestone isn’t happy though. He told the Daily Express imposing this rule could be a very dangerous move:
“Formula One is absolutely not the right place to have electric engines. It’s like having ballet dancers with sneakers. More comfortable, but it doesn’t work… There’s no way that it will be electric in the pit lane. People could be killed because they won’t hear the cars coming.”
The original proposal of the 2014 rule was first proposed by ex-FIA president Max Mosley. Ecclestone is defending current FIA president Jean Todt but says the rule cannot be put in place. Ecclestone said,
“We can’t blame Jean Todt because this was started by Max [Mosley]. It was Max’s original idea. His idea is what is being promoted now.”
It’s an interesting issue, and one that normal electric road cars also face. When a car is being driven purely on electricity, the level of noise produced by the car at moderate to low speeds is almost non-existent.

Perhaps the FIA and Formula One could just adapt features such as audible systems that are currently available on electric vehicles like the Nissan LEAF. Such systems simply transmit a changeable note or high pitch noise to give the car some sound as it’s driving along, pre-warning pedestrians that a moving car is nearby.

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Old 08-11-2011, 03:55 PM   #2
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Why not just make the cars 100% electric?

Lay a grid beneath a new top-coat on all existing tracks, and use induction to power the cars.

1:1-scale slotless racing!

And Bernie could make some serious coin selling rights to the tones the cars generate while underway.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:56 PM   #3
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They way the run you may as well use slots...
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:58 PM   #4
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They way the run you may as well use slots...
Guess how I know you don't watch F1...
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Old 08-11-2011, 06:18 PM   #5
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Why is Bernie concerned? Hell, people could be killed with Nazi sex orgies, but I don't see him speaking up against that...oh wait...
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Old 08-12-2011, 01:19 PM   #6
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Guess how I know you don't watch F1...
Guess why I stopped...
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Is the carbon footprint of F1 cars while in pit lane really a problem?
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Old 08-12-2011, 01:28 PM   #8
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Guess why I stopped...
Because you don't enjoy watching on-track passing (DRS/KERS) and critical tire/fuel management?

Sucks to be you, I guess.
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Old 08-12-2011, 04:28 PM   #9
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Because you don't enjoy watching on-track passing (DRS/KERS) and critical tire/fuel management?

Sucks to be you, I guess.
I hate the changes to F1 this year. DRS is worse than what Nascar does to make the cars bunch up. And KERS is like the turbo button on crappy 90's video games.

By making cars close to each other pass alot, the leader gets clean air all the time and just pulls away. 1st only changes in the pits or in rain.

And crap tires are crap tires, especially when the clag shrinks the passing zones down to monaco levels.

I for one can't wait for the underbody downforce in a couple of years that will allow following cars to approach without losing downforce.
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Well, I did exchange it for the WRC, and then the IRC. What can I say, boring series are boring.
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Perhaps Ecclestone's concerns can be taken care of by having the F1 cars have a beeper or siren installed on each car that comes on as soon as they enter the pits?
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Perhaps Ecclestone's concerns can be taken care of by having the F1 cars have a beeper or siren installed on each car that comes on as soon as they enter the pits?
They already have the pit siren going off the entire time.
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Creating such a headache for such a trivial amount of time is not even remotely worth it. The losses far outweight the gains. What are the gains? Pit stops are about 20 seconds in to out, so say a minute for a 3 stop race would be under these conditions. So in order to convey the farce of "going green", they would have to add an electric motor that would be switched on and off with the regular motor several times per race and have a 60mph silent bullet passing by people in the pit lane. Again, what are the gains? The actual fuel savings would be a joke, especially considering the car's about to head out on track and do 200mph in, you know, motor racing. This is all about the appearance of "going green", which is what that nonsense is all about in the end anyways.
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Uhhhhh Bernie, have you notice those things the pit crew wear over their ears? That's calle dhearing protection. At low speeds the car is not producing enough noise to drown out the background noise and be heard through the hearing protection.
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I hate the changes to F1 this year. DRS is worse than what Nascar does to make the cars bunch up. And KERS is like the turbo button on crappy 90's video games.

By making cars close to each other pass alot, the leader gets clean air all the time and just pulls away. 1st only changes in the pits or in rain.

And crap tires are crap tires, especially when the clag shrinks the passing zones down to monaco levels.

I for one can't wait for the underbody downforce in a couple of years that will allow following cars to approach without losing downforce.
Compared to 2010, there has been probably more passes in a race than half the series from last year. It has been far more entertaining than having Seb win..... well, he still wins..
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