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Old 10-07-2012, 01:16 PM   #1051
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the hardest part is actually putting the fuel rails back on.
This. Make sure the rails are perfectly straight, otherwise the o-rings will tear and leak fuel. Use engine oil or some sort of lube on the o-rings. Also with the 1300 injectors, they are a little longer than stock injectors. So you'll have to install some washers under the fuel rails to space it out from the intake manifold. If you don't, you'll damage the fuel injector seals inside the intake manifold and possibly create a manifold leak.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:20 PM   #1052
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:34 PM   #1053
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This. Make sure the rails are perfectly straight, otherwise the o-rings will tear and leak fuel. Use engine oil or some sort of lube on the o-rings. Also with the 1300 injectors, they are a little longer than stock injectors. So you'll have to install some washers under the fuel rails to space it out from the intake manifold. If you don't, you'll damage the fuel injector seals inside the intake manifold and possibly create a manifold leak.
Do you know what size washers? This would have been very bad to find out during the install!!! Thank you very much for the heads up!!
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:05 PM   #1054
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Do you know what size washers? This would have been very bad to find out during the install!!! Thank you very much for the heads up!!
I honestly forget what size washers. Just when you pull one of the bolts from the fuel rail out, run down to the hardware store and grab a bunch. I think for me, my DW injectors were a quarter inch longer. So i stacked like 4 washers on each injector to make up the difference.

I also bent the drivers side bracket out of the way and then re-bent it back in place. Some people have completely removed the bracket, but i didn't see a reason to.

Also, if you remove the air pump, you will probably have to change some DTC codes in the ecu because it might set a check engine light.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:08 PM   #1055
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I wish i knew you were going to install 1300's too. I bought a set about a year ago and they were too big. So i went down to 1000's and they are just right. I could have sold you the 1300's cheap cause they are no use to me right now.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:47 PM   #1056
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Thanks for the info. Yeah to bad I didn't know you we're selling a new set. I'm going to take my other lower intake manifold down to the hardware store with me to find the washers before starting the work. I like to try to have all the parts and tools on hand before doing a job.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:17 PM   #1057
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So i stacked like 4 washers on each injector to make up the difference.

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You mean you stacked the washers between the rail and the lower Manifold right, not on the injectors.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #1058
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Why did you go with DW 1300 over ID 1000
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:38 PM   #1059
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I was going for head room. The DW pump flows 320LPH which is 5333 cc/min which slightly more than four 1300 injectors. Figure I have the room might as well come close to maximizing it.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:33 PM   #1060
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Run the car until it the gas light comes on. Then idle in your driveway (some place level though) until it starts hiccuping (aka out of gas) Then filll up with E85 that's what I did. Have a base tune flashed before you go out and log ect
You can also unplug the drain line, its really simple.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:34 PM   #1061
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You can also unplug the drain line, its really simple.
Where is the drain line?
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:43 PM   #1062
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Where is the drain line?
On the drivers side in front of the brake master cylinder is the fuel feed and return lines. Just disconnect one of them and jump the fuel pump relay. You could also disconnect the fuel pump feed line under the rear seat and jump the pump relay.

The second one may make a mess though.

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You mean you stacked the washers between the rail and the lower Manifold right, not on the injectors.
Yea. Sorry. Thats what i meant.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:48 PM   #1063
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On the drivers side in front of the brake master cylinder is the fuel feed and return lines. Just disconnect one of them and jump the fuel pump relay. You could also disconnect the fuel pump feed line under the rear seat and jump the pump relay.

The second one may make a mess though.

Yea. Sorry. Thats what i meant.
So if I disconnect behind the master cylinder how do you catch the fuel? I'm guessing you turn the car on so the pump continues to push fuel through right? If I remember from when I swapped my FPR, the fuel lines are really short.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:55 PM   #1064
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You can also unplug the drain line, its really simple.
You can do that too after doing what I described to try and get it as bare as possible
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:57 PM   #1065
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You can do that too after doing what I described to try and get it as bare as possible
So same lines that b154wheel described?
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:43 PM   #1066
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So if I disconnect behind the master cylinder how do you catch the fuel? I'm guessing you turn the car on so the pump continues to push fuel through right? If I remember from when I swapped my FPR, the fuel lines are really short.
In front of the master cylinder. You can use a coke bottle. Thats what i used. I drove around until it was almost out of fuel, and then disconnected the fuel line and drained the rest. You can either turn the key on and off a bunch of times, or jump the fuel pump relay with some jumper wires.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:46 PM   #1067
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I'll be swinging home tonight/early tomorrow morning. I can take a picture if you want. And post it sometime tomorrow.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:49 PM   #1068
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On the drivers side in front of the brake master cylinder is the fuel feed and return lines. Just disconnect one of them and jump the fuel pump relay. You could also disconnect the fuel pump feed line under the rear seat and jump the pump relay.

The second one may make a mess though.

Yea. Sorry. Thats what i meant.
I had to use 2 washers on each injector also. Put the washers first, fuel rail and finally bolt. The fuel rail has some flex to it but mounting it is a challenge.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:50 PM   #1069
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I'll be swinging home tonight/early tomorrow morning. I can take a picture if you want. And post it sometime tomorrow.
That would be great!
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:52 PM   #1070
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I had to use 2 washers on each injector also. Put the washers first, fuel rail and finally bolt. The fuel rail has some flex to it but mounting it is a challenge.
Wtf!!!! Two orings??? Which oring did you double up on? Isn't there one on each side?
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Wtf!!!! Two orings??? Which oring did you double up on? Isn't there one on each side?
Not orings, literally washers from walmart. They get placed directly below the fuel rail over each injector.

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Old 10-07-2012, 08:12 PM   #1072
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Not orings, literally washers from walmart. They get placed directly below the fuel rail over each injector.
Are you talking about the same washers that b154wheel is talking about? I'm still a little list since DW says they use OEM parts and they should be direct fit. So why the additional parts. But ill definitely get some washers just in case since you all have already done it before.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:20 PM   #1073
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Are you talking about the same washers that b154wheel is talking about? I'm still a little list since DW says they use OEM parts and they should be direct fit. So why the additional parts. But ill definitely get some washers just in case since you all have already done it before.
Yes same washers.
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:29 PM   #1074
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I'm having a little reading comprehension problem tonight lol.
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