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Old 08-13-2011, 05:04 PM   #1
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The driver and passenger curtain airbags of a 2010/2011 Chevrolet Camaro have spontaneously deployed after a man was attempting to drift the car during a driving event in America. The airbags were actuated after a swift change of direction at the end of a slide.



It’s not very often that an American V8 sports car decides, on its own, that it no longer wants to take part in burnouts and drifting, but it seems some muscle cars have a mind of their own and want to be a bit more sensible.
Both the driver and passenger were reportedly fine after the sudden bursts inflated near their heads, however, the woman riding in the passenger seat was said to have received minor burns from the explosive nature of the airbag going off.

An official reason for the deployment hasn’t been confirmed, and it is unknown if there is a warning in the terms of use in the owner’s manual for such potentials. Reports suggest it had something to do with the accelerometers and sensors used for the airbags.

If you notice in the video, the moment the airbags deploy is the same time the Camaro shifts its weight under a sudden release of the accelerator, which would have caused a big spike in lateral g-force. You certainly wouldn’t want this to happen if you’re travelling at high speed on a track. GM spokesman Alan Adler responded to the incident in a recent Jalopnik report, saying,
“It is unusual to have this occur. However, it is possible for a driver to create conditions where the airbag sensors believe a rollover is imminent. This can lead to an unwanted air bag deployment.
“On rollover side curtain bags, the vehicle’s rollover sensing system is looking for a certain set of factors that ‘predict’ a vehicle is going to roll over. The airbag system cannot wait until it is too late to deploy the airbags. Drifting or creating a situation that has a certain combination of speed and vehicle angle can lead to an unwanted airbag deployment.”
Take a look at the video below to see how it all happened. And tell us, have you heard of anything like this happening before?
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:06 PM   #2
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I'd be livid.
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:12 PM   #3
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:29 PM   #4
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who pays for the repair?
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:31 PM   #5
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Elbow out the window is very amateurish, not that doing donuts in a parking lot is all that professional in and of itself.
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:19 PM   #6
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Uh!Oh! I think the NHTSA will have to look into this issue?:
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:27 PM   #7
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I'd want them to if it turns out to be a bad batch of sensors.
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:30 PM   #8
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Airbags suck.
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:22 PM   #9
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GM spokesman Alan Adler makes the understatement of the year:
"It is unusual to have this occur."

You don't say!
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:41 PM   #10
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Uh!Oh! I think the NHTSA will have to look into this issue?:
And that would be a bad thing? Airbags that go off randomly are extremely dangerous.
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:47 PM   #11
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GM has had a very quiet string of these issues the past 5 years or so. I mostly heard of it happening to people taking the newer (07+) 4x4s offroad and having the side bags deploy if the truck started sliding at all. I also read of isolated incidents with the Trailblazer (and the other clones) having the bags deploy randomly in tight, low speed turns.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:15 PM   #12
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My 4Runner has a roll-sensing airbag cancel button to use when offroading. Though, with doing stuff like this, I think you'd want the airbags to still work say you smashed into a wall. Maybe a button to increase the accelerometer threshold?
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:35 PM   #13
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Still doesn't top the TSB on my old neon. "In some instances the airbag may deploy when shifting out of park."
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:24 AM   #14
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That guy should have had GM pay him not to post that video. He'll probably get screwed now on the warranty.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:38 AM   #15
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no means no, says bumblebee. lol.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:45 AM   #16
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GM has had a very quiet string of these issues the past 5 years or so. I mostly heard of it happening to people taking the newer (07+) 4x4s offroad and having the side bags deploy if the truck started sliding at all. I also read of isolated incidents with the Trailblazer (and the other clones) having the bags deploy randomly in tight, low speed turns.
I've heard of front bags deploying off-road on older cars without any fancy roll sensors, even on non-GM cars.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:11 AM   #17
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Why isn't there just something like a relay in the door that when the panel crumples in, the contacts are made, and it deploys. Sucks for parking lot dings, but at least they aren't going off when you're just driving and NOT hitting anything.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:42 AM   #18
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Why isn't there just something like a relay in the door that when the panel crumples in, the contacts are made, and it deploys. Sucks for parking lot dings, but at least they aren't going off when you're just driving and NOT hitting anything.
In a rollover I'd want my side curtain airbags inflated before the side of my head contacts the ground and the window glass and potentially sharp/hard objects outside said window contact my head in turn.
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Old 08-14-2011, 01:03 PM   #19
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Elbow out the window is very amateurish, not that doing donuts in a parking lot is all that professional in and of itself.
Er, the guy's just screwing around in a car more or less built for sliding and donuts.

Regardless of what they were doing that's more support for the fact airbags are some scary shirt.
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Old 08-14-2011, 01:28 PM   #20
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:50 PM   #21
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Maybe if the driver could hold a steady slide instead of being a bad driver he wouldn't have had the airbags pop . Still bad, and I wish side air bags would just go away. That or I wish car companies could sell 3 start rated cars... I'm tired of new tech coming out in terms of safety and slowly becoming mandatory, adding costs and weight.
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Old 08-14-2011, 04:33 PM   #22
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Me too. That whole 'not ending up in a wheelchair after a 30 mph accident' thing is getting old, and I can totally feel the extra 2.7% that the safety equipment is adding to the weight of the car on my commute.

There's that one corner near my house right behind the 35 mph sign that I'm struggling to get around at 75.3 mph. If those damn airbags weren't there, I bet I could do 75.6 mph...easily.
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Old 08-14-2011, 07:09 PM   #23
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Me too. That whole 'not ending up in a wheelchair after a 30 mph accident' thing is getting old, and I can totally feel the extra 2.7% that the safety equipment is adding to the weight of the car on my commute.

There's that one corner near my house right behind the 35 mph sign that I'm struggling to get around at 75.3 mph. If those damn airbags weren't there, I bet I could do 75.6 mph...easily.
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Old 08-14-2011, 07:28 PM   #24
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Me too. That whole 'not ending up in a wheelchair after a 30 mph accident' thing is getting old, and I can totally feel the extra 2.7% that the safety equipment is adding to the weight of the car on my commute.

There's that one corner near my house right behind the 35 mph sign that I'm struggling to get around at 75.3 mph. If those damn airbags weren't there, I bet I could do 75.6 mph...easily.


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Old 08-14-2011, 08:38 PM   #25
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The ZO6s would trip the onstar crash detector sometimes but this is definitely way more interesting.
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