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Old 09-29-2011, 07:59 PM   #51
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Interesting the subaru turbo is ball bearing, billet 20g's seem so over rated these days. How about something new for a change...

..something new.. like THIS turbo? Subaru just got bolt on ball bearing 20gs in the last couple months. Before that the only ball bearing option was the Blouch Dominator turbos. And billet wheels are pretty new for us as well. I'm not sure what's over rated about them. From the data I've seen all of the newer turbos being manufactured with billet wheels perform considerably better than their non billet counterparts.


So what exactly are you talking about?
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:01 PM   #52
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oooo wow another glorified 20g with a billet wheel. It probably flows no better then a HTA green. Ball bearing it lasts longer when pushed.

A 20g with ball bearing, is still a 20g. Just another turbo with more bells and whistles.
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:07 AM   #53
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oooo wow another glorified 20g with a billet wheel. It probably flows no better then a HTA green. Ball bearing it lasts longer when pushed.

A 20g with ball bearing, is still a 20g. Just another turbo with more bells and whistles.
a 20g that will make 20-30whp more than the older 20Gs, a 20G that will spool almost like a VF series turbo, a 20g that will respond faster between shift than the older 20Gs, a 20G that will last longer than the other 20gs.

Yeah just a regular 20g

The billet 20g will kick the ass of a HTA green down low by a lot and from the Road dyno thread the HTA will only make maybe 10-20whp more.
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:23 PM   #54
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a 20g that will make 20-30whp more than the older 20Gs, a 20G that will spool almost like a VF series turbo, a 20g that will respond faster between shift than the older 20Gs, a 20G that will last longer than the other 20gs.

Yeah just a regular 20g

The billet 20g will kick the ass of a HTA green down low by a lot and from the Road dyno thread the HTA will only make maybe 10-20whp more.
At the same price as the older 20Gs
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:23 PM   #55
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At the same price as the older 20Gs
Do you know how long a BB turbo will last vs journal bearing turbo? do you know how long a hybrid ceramic steel bearing like the ones use on this turbo turbo vs a regular BB? 2.5 times the life time.

life time usage Vs cost, 20g BB wins

stop posting .

I really like these turbos so much that I am going sell my OG FP Green to run the maperformance 20g or the Dom 1.5 with a 10cm2. These turbos are really awesome.

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Old 09-30-2011, 02:26 PM   #56
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At the same price as the older 20Gs
I think this statement was a positive one about our pricing, but I could be wrong? lol
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:21 PM   #57
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Also we're working on oil and coolant line solutions to make this a truly bolt in affair
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:56 PM   #58
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Also we're working on oil and coolant line solutions to make this a truly bolt in affair
Excellent!

Great job on the tuning btw Juan!
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:49 PM   #59
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Do you know how long a BB turbo will last vs journal bearing turbo? do you know how long a hybrid ceramic steel bearing like the ones use on this turbo turbo vs a regular BB? 2.5 times the life time.

life time usage Vs cost, 20g BB wins

stop posting .

I really like these turbos so much that I am going sell my OG FP Green to run the maperformance 20g or the Dom 1.5 with a 10cm2. These turbos are really awesome.
Uhhh.... I was just adding to what you had said about how everything is better on the newer 20Gs vs the old 20Gs. You left out that you get the better performance for the same $$$. I actually have one of these turbos waiting to go on my car if I can ever find the money to finish the current build.
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I think this statement was a positive one about our pricing, but I could be wrong? lol
Your 100% correct
I may need to get one of the newer install kits. I won't know for a couple months though as I plan to test fit the turbo and lines once I get around to pulling my motor out....
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:53 PM   #60
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Excellent!

Great job on the tuning btw Juan!
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Uhhh.... I was just adding to what you had said about how everything is better on the newer 20Gs vs the old 20Gs. You left out that you get the better performance for the same $$$. I actually have one of these turbos waiting to go on my car if I can ever find the money to finish the current build.


Your 100% correct
I may need to get one of the newer install kits. I won't know for a couple months though as I plan to test fit the turbo and lines once I get around to pulling my motor out....
Sorry sometimes is hard to measure sarcasm through the screen. Yeah it is an amazing turbo for the money.
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:37 PM   #61
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A 20g with ball bearing, is still a 20g. Just another turbo with more bells and whistles.


Right, it's a 20g with more bells and whistles, better performance at a lower price. What's not to like? I still don't see the point you're trying to make.. not everyone wants/needs a 35r, or whatever you're trying to get at.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:36 PM   #62
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what was the injector duty cycle on this set up? I am looking into the injectors is why I ask. Thanks!
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:36 PM   #63
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what was the injector duty cycle on this set up? I am looking into the injectors is why I ask. Thanks!
mid-high 80s
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mid-high 80s
thank you sir!

also, I have looked and cannot seem to find the lb per min rating on this turbo. Does anybody know this?

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Old 10-28-2011, 05:02 PM   #65
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I've heard 49lb/min, but there is seemingly a continuing lack of hard data.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:38 PM   #66
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Is anyone else running one of these? Im rather interested in them. Ive been talking to my boss "Dave Brown" @ Performance Auto Solutions about them but we want to see a few more results...
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:41 PM   #67
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I am, but I'm still waiting to get my injectors back from Deatschwerks before I can get tuned. Brianne Corn also ran the same turbo in her winning Pikes Peak car this year..



Ohh yeah, and this guy named Tyler from Austin is running one on an ej205.. there are also a few other AWDTuning customers running them, but I'm not sure who. I had overheard about problems with oil pushing past the seals on people's cars running over 120psi oil pressure. Just more the reason to get the restrictor set up in the oil line correctly.
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Old 11-02-2011, 04:58 AM   #68
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and i was just about to push the order button at FP for an HTA green. Thanks to an old friend in the AK forum linking me to this. saved me a load of cash. can't wait to put mine on!
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Hmm.. HTA Green is what, a 56lb/min turbo? I'd say that's substantially different power wise.
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i don't want to go over 400/400 on mine. daily driver and over 90k on the stock block now. i'm already on e85 making 335/392 on a ported vf39. i'm sure i'll be more than happy with the increased top end.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:41 PM   #71
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Good choice then.. this turbo should net you right around 400/410 on e85, and it should spool significantly sooner than the HTA Green.
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Also we're working on oil and coolant line solutions to make this a truly bolt in affair
I've received this MAP 20G ball bearing turbocharger in August, and I still can't fit it on my WRX. All this time I'm waiting for the right oil-feed connection between the turbocharger and my stock European Market EJ255 block... I'm going crazy here, it's been 3 months now... I want to slap it on and burn some rubber !

I'm getting help from Daelen Snow from Maperformance, but I'm really getting nervous now, if I'm ever going to be able to fit this turbo to my car...

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I've received this MAP 20G ball bearing turbocharger in August, and I still can't fit it on my WRX. All this time I'm waiting for the right oil-feed connection between the turbocharger and my stock European Market EJ255 block... I'm going crazy here, it's been 3 months now... I want to slap it on and burn some rubber !

I'm getting help from Daelen Snow from Maperformance, but I'm really getting nervous now, if I'm ever going to be able to fit this turbo to my car...

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you need to talk to nate evans. if im not mistaken he personally built the oil line supply kits for these turbos.
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I've received this MAP 20G ball bearing turbocharger in August, and I still can't fit it on my WRX. All this time I'm waiting for the right oil-feed connection between the turbocharger and my stock European Market EJ255 block... I'm going crazy here, it's been 3 months now... I want to slap it on and burn some rubber !

I'm getting help from Daelen Snow from Maperformance, but I'm really getting nervous now, if I'm ever going to be able to fit this turbo to my car...

- Sander
We will definitely find a solution sir, I'm going crazy myself trying to source the appropriate oil feed fitting. I'll have Daelen shoot you an update, thank you for your patience.

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