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Old 08-16-2011, 09:26 AM   #1
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BMW is putting the finishing touches to its sixth-generation BMW 3-series before a planned public debut at the Detroit show early next year.
The new model, codenamed F30, is now in the final phase of a three-year durability testing programme.

Lightly disguised prototypes of the saloon are now a frequent sight on the roads around BMW’s Munich headquarters and the Nürburgring and new undisguised pics have also leaked out from Spanish site bmwfaq.com.
See spy pics of the BMW 3-series, plus new undisguised images
The saloon will be the first model to arrive, but BMW has plans for five further 3-series body styles: Touring, GT, coupé, convertible and GranCoupé. The last three will dispense with 3-series nomenclature for an all-new 4-series nameplate.

UK sales of the new saloon will start next March at prices expected to be an average of four per cent higher than today, in line with extra standard kit.
Styling

Visually, the new 3-series leans heavily on the latest 5-series in a bid to provide BMW’s two best-selling models with a more unified appearance.
From the front, the two share a similar look that is continued along heavily structured sides to a high-set rear, which gives the new car a more wedge-shaped profile.

The kidney grille is shaped to evoke the shark nose treatment redolent of the original 1975 E21 3-series. Underneath it, full-width air ducts accentuate the car’s width. The bonnet carries heavy contouring similar to that brought to the outgoing model during a 2009 facelift.

Other characteristic design flourishes include defined front wheel arches, prominent swage lines running down the flanks, a traditional Hofmeister kink in the trailing edge of the rear side quarter window, a heavily angled rear window and a relatively high bootline.
Engineering

The new 3-series is underpinned by a heavily reworked platform with a wheelbase that is 50mm longer and tracks that have increased by about 20mm at the front and 15mm at the rear. The aim is to give the car the interior space to match its main rivals, the Audi A4 and Mercedes-Benz C-class. Rear seat accommodation is said to have benefited greatly and BMW sources have revealed that the rear door aperture is considerably larger now.

The new 3-series forgoes traditional MacPherson strut suspension up front for a new, space-saving double wishbone design said to give a shorter front overhang, improved wheel control and a slight reduction in turning circle over today’s model.

The rear continues with multi-link suspension, but it receives a greater number of aluminium components and has variable damper control.
Further changes include the adoption of electro-mechanical steering, which will come with an ActiveSteering option to provide variable assistance according to speed.

In a further first for the 3-series, there are two different wheelbases. The saloon, Touring, coupé and convertible sit on the shorter wheelbase. The GT and GranCoupé use the longer wheelbase, which is up by around 75mm on today’s 3-series. A long-wheelbase saloon is planned for China.
Engines and transmissions

BMW plans to offer the new 3-series with 11 engine options: five turbocharged petrol units and six turbodiesels with piezo injectors. Not all will be available from launch.
The long-serving naturally aspirated 3.0-litre straight six petrol engine has been dropped for a new 2.0-litre, four-cylinder turbo unit — recently unveiled in the X1 xDrive28i — that will form of the backbone of the new line-up.
Kicking off the petrol line-up will be a 150bhp turbocharged 1.6-litre four — essentially, the same BMW-developed and Peugeot-Citroën-produced engine used by Mini but turned 90deg — in the 318i.

It will be joined by a trio of turbocharged 2.0-litre fours developing 180bhp (320i), 210bhp (325i) and 245bhp (328i). At the top of the line-up will be a turbo 3.0-litre six with 306bhp (335i).

Among the diesels are three 2.0-litre, four-cylinder engines with 122bhp (316d), 143bhp (318d) and 184bhp (320d). They will be joined by three 3.0-litre, six-cylinder units with 204bhp (325d), 245bhp (330d) and 286bhp (335d).

All engines will come as standard with a six-speed manual gearbox and be available with an optional ZF eight-speed automatic. Both gearboxes support standard stop-start, brake energy recuperation and on-demand control of ancillary functions.
Other variants

As well as rear-wheel drive, BMW is planning at least three models with optional four-wheel drive: the 328iX, 320dX and 330iX. Further four-wheel-drive models may be added later if the demand exists.
As with the outgoing model, BMW plans a super-frugal 320d EfficientDynamics variant. It is rumoured to achieve 75mpg on the combined cycle.
Also under development — but unlikely to join the line-up until the introduction of the Touring during the third quarter of next year — is a 3-series ActiveHybrid model. This uses the new turbocharged 2.0-litre petrol engine in combination with an electric motor mounted within the automatic gearbox housing. Munich insiders say it has the performance to match that of the 335i and better low-speed economy than the 316d.
Technology

To help position it further upmarket from today’s model, the new 3-series will be available with much of the technology already offered on the 5-series.

Included among a long list of options will be driving dynamic control to alter the mapping of the engine, gearbox and suspension, the latest four-colour version of BMW’s head-up display with traffic sign recognition, forward collision warning, lane change warning, night vision with pedestrian identification and a surround view parking system with side-mounted cameras.



























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Old 08-16-2011, 09:27 AM   #2
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:36 AM   #3
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Wait, there will be NO N/A I6 offered? Period?




That can't be. It just can't be.
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:33 AM   #4
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^^ Where you been dude??.. That info has been out for a while, The famous inline 6, smooth as butter that made BMW a BMW will now be a Turbo 4..
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:06 AM   #5
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:11 AM   #6
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^^ Where you been dude??.. That info has been out for a while, The famous inline 6, smooth as butter that made BMW a BMW will now be a Turbo 4..
Well, I've known they'd be movng to 4s are their primary. I guess I never thought the day would actually come when they didn't offer at least one in the line-up, at some level in some market.


I don't care if its a 180 hp version, or a 340 hp version, they were all great engines. Really got addicting driving anything from an older 325, to a modern loaner 328 wagon, to an M3. To be honest, they jsut make other powerplants feel cheap(er), rough, etc.

I'm actually sad, and not even a huge BMW fan in general.
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So while driving this I would need to ask myself if the blue tie with red stripes or if the red tie with blue strips would go best with my khakis and sports coat.
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Old 08-16-2011, 12:42 PM   #8
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Wait, there will be NO N/A I6 offered? Period?

That can't be. It just can't be.
One of the main reason that I went for the last model year 328i. That and the electric steering. So I'd be pretty pissed if they do end up offering an NA I6 and the new EPS turns out to be fantastic.
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The upcoming 4 series, I believe, is the replacement for the current 3 series we know and love, I think. BMW's changing things around - the new 2 series will replace the current 1 series with the upcoming 1 series being FWD and 4-bangers...

I want to see the coupe of this new car - not a fan so far.
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The upcoming 4 series, I believe, is the replacement for the current 3 series we know and love, I think. BMW's changing things around - the new 2 series will replace the current 1 series with the upcoming 1 series being FWD and 4-bangers...

I want to see the coupe of this new car - not a fan so far.
4 series is rumored to be the coupe, with the 3 series being the sedan (a la audi A4, A5).

M3 may stay across the board.

1 will become 2, and large mini will become 1.

i8 may become M1, not 1 series M.

6 is a two-door 5, which is really a small seven.

Everyone got it?
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4 series is rumored to be the coupe, with the 3 series being the sedan (a la audi A4, A5).

M3 may stay across the board.

1 will become 2, and large mini will become 1.

i8 may become M1, not 1 series M.

6 is a two-door 5, which is really a small seven.

Everyone got it?
You left out the part about the 1er coming in both RWD and FWD. The 1er coupe will become the new 2er, but the RWD hatch will stay as 1er sDrive model, alongside the new FWD 1er variants.

It will be a very convoluted and confusing lineup.
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:07 PM   #12
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Well The M3 will have a turbo six Rex8, hope that makes you feel better. I was looking at the 328x but the options take it so high..
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It looks very similar to the current 3 series.

With a double a-arm front suspension the handling has potential to be even more awesome than the current version depending on how much weight it gained.

The 320D sounds like a great DD. I hope it comes to the US so I can get one. 75 mpg would be awesome.
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It really looks like a baby F10 5er. They are going back to the family resemblance scheme, like the good old days of E46/E39/E38. I think that's in principle a good idea, especially since the F10 looks a thousand times better than the E60.

Having said that, I suspect that this new 3er will look more luxury and less sporty than the E90. According to a BMW rep at Bimmerpost, BMW is specifically targeting customers that are downsizing from larger luxury sedans due to the time being, well, you know. So the question is whether it will also drive more like a luxury car or not. The new 5er is already no longer the sportiest car in its class, so this is a real concern.
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looks like smaller 5 series.
Make it lighter..
Tune N55 to 320hp.
Bring on the 335d with new 330hp diesel..
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Wait, there will be NO N/A I6 offered? Period?

That can't be. It just can't be.
Turbo I6 in the 335i. No NA I6. No big deal.
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Saw the new 650 at Monterey Leguna Secca show. Was best car I ever saw from BMW
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Turbo I6 in the 335i. No NA I6. No big deal.
I dunno.

If you want something with a sweet 60 degree firing order, and inherent balance, but not with excess heat, complication, and expense....

Lack of an atmospheric I6 in a BMW might be an issue for some.


That and a diesel ///M car... what is going on at the Bavarian *Motor* Werks?
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No NA I6 and uninspiring aesthetically... maybe people will buy them for their reliability alone.
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I actually like the 5 and 7 series designs so I'm happy that the next 3 series would be based from them. I just hope this new design won't stray away from the 3's traits of perfectly combining sportiness with luxury and comfort.

If I can afford it in 4-5 years, this will be my next car!
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I dunno.

If you want something with a sweet 60 degree firing order, and inherent balance, but not with excess heat, complication, and expense....

Lack of an atmospheric I6 in a BMW might be an issue for some.


That and a diesel ///M car... what is going on at the Bavarian *Motor* Werks?
Certainly the N54 has soured my taste for the idea of BMW turbo engines. I mean, it's rare to come by a car these days that has a fairly common issue that will leave you stranded.
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