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Old 08-16-2011, 06:42 PM   #1
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Default Honda planning a pickup based on 2012 CR-V! Hybrid version in the works!



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It appears that 2012 is a very important year for Honda, as the Japanese manufacturer will roll out the redesigned Civic, the redesigned Accord as well as the new CR-V. And these models are very very important as these products represent almost 70 percent of firms sales in the United States. And now here is the big news: it appears that the Honda CR-V will also spawn a compact pickup version, at least according to the folks from AutoWeek. Still, this is only a rumor, well have to see what Honda has to say about this.

Regarding the engine found on the 2012 CR-V, Honda will use the 201-hp 2.4-liter engine found also on the Acura TSX Wagon and the Civic Si. Moreover, Honda could also offer a hybrid version, but no V6 is planned. Regarding the redesigned version of the Accord, this model is expected to arrive next spring and will be with two or three inches shorter than the current model, while the wheelbase may stay the same. Under the hood we will find the 2.4-liter inline-four as well as an optional V6.
Moreover, we will find a hybrid version equipped with a four-cylinder for fuel economy, rather than with the V6 for performance. What is really interesting is that Honda will offer a plug-in hybrid version of the Accord, which is expected to arrive by the end of 2012. And now for those who love the hybrid sports cars, we have good news as Honda will roll out a high performance version of the CR-Z, delivering around 200 hp and previewed at last years SEMA Show.
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:16 PM   #2
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There are not enough lulz for this. The Baja didn't go over well and it was overall a much better vehicle. Jeeeez...
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:19 PM   #3
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Yay! Another fake poser pickup from Honda!
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Old 08-16-2011, 11:11 PM   #4
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V-Tec, yo!

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Old 08-17-2011, 12:30 AM   #5
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I would be extremely excited about this if it was...say...10 years ago - when Honda was still making vaguely exciting products...
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:46 AM   #6
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There are not enough lulz for this. The Baja didn't go over well and it was overall a much better vehicle. Jeeeez...
Subaru screwed it up - awful design, packaging and pricing.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:15 AM   #7
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we have good news as Honda will roll out a high performance version of the CR-Z, delivering around 200 hp and previewed at last years SEMA Show.
The above quote should be reason to smile considering the amount of hatered on this board over the weak sauce hamster the CRZ has been equiped with thus far.

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P.S. compact, car based pickups sell well all over the world everyday, yet the U.S. has monsters like RAMS & F350 used as poser commuter devices

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FIAT Strada:


http://www.carshowp.com/2011-fiat-strada-sporting/


VW Saviero:


http://www.insideline.com/volkswagen...ss-pickup.html



If true, Hopefully Honda executes well on this pickup
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:55 AM   #8
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a v6 option for the crv should make it more competitive at the high end of this market.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:09 AM   #9
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Yay! Another fake poser pickup from Honda!
It may or may not sell in the US--probably the latter in all honesty--but the real "posers" are all the people who bought Super Duty pickups and don't do jack squat with them except drive their fat asses to and from work*. Contractors in Japan make do with Kei-class pickups and vans...

* I wouldn't care what they do except that these people seem to also be of the same camp that whines about gas/diesel prices.
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:16 PM   #10
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I find it hard to believe Honda would put the TSX/Si motor into CRV when that motor runs on premium fuel.
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:44 PM   #11
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Where are they gonna get the design? I don't think Kia has one.
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Old 08-17-2011, 05:04 PM   #12
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honda can't seem to do anything right these days.
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Old 08-17-2011, 06:04 PM   #13
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In all seriousness, I would rather own a Chevy Volt than ANY car that Honda/Acura currently offers.

Yeah, I said it.
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Old 08-17-2011, 06:06 PM   #14
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Didn't they learn from the Ridgeline that people aren't going to buy those silly things?


Guess not.
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Old 08-17-2011, 06:58 PM   #15
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The above quote should be reason to smile considering the amount of hatered on this board over the weak sauce hamster the CRZ has been equiped with thus far.

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http://www.carshowp.com/2011-fiat-strada-sporting/


VW Saviero:


http://www.insideline.com/volkswagen...ss-pickup.html



If true, Hopefully Honda executes well on this pickup
A Suzuki SX4 pickup would be pretty sweet.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:31 PM   #16
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It may or may not sell in the US--probably the latter in all honesty--but the real "posers" are all the people who bought Super Duty pickups and don't do jack squat with them except drive their fat asses to and from work*. Contractors in Japan make do with Kei-class pickups and vans...

* I wouldn't care what they do except that these people seem to also be of the same camp that whines about gas/diesel prices.
Sure they do, on smaller roads with lower speed limits. On the moon a third of Americans wouldn't be over weight either, yet here we are.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:52 PM   #17
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In all seriousness, I would rather own a Chevy Volt than ANY car that Honda/Acura currently offers.

Yeah, I said it.
I completely agree. And there's no way in hell I'll ever own a Volt.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:58 PM   #18
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Subaru screwed it up - awful design, packaging and pricing.
Personal preference. I like mine. Pricing was way off, yeah. The engine choices and marketing was where they screwed up.
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I find it hard to believe Honda would put the TSX/Si motor into CRV when that motor runs on premium fuel.

Surely it'll be revamped for regular. Kinda like how the Sonata turbo is. Yeah, it runs on regular, but if you put premium in it.........
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I know plenty of people with a 150/1500 pickup that don't, but I dont' know anyone with a heavy duty that doesn't use it for some purpose that a cute little pickup truck can't do. Besides, you'd have to convince me that it's better than a base v-6 Ram or Silverado even for simple tasks including anything more than transporting your small craftsman toolbox.
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I know plenty of people with a 150/1500 pickup that don't, but I dont' know anyone with a heavy duty that doesn't use it for some purpose that a cute little pickup truck can't do.
The 2005 "Pickup Truck Usage Study" that's the source for the below didn't break things down for every question by 1/2 ton vs. 3/4 or 1 ton, but here is self-reported (probably inflated) towing prevalence. They also didn't break down the mass of whatever's being towed, either.

"Question: How often do you use your vehicle for driving towing items such as a trailer, camper, or boat?"


"Question: How often do you use your vehicle for driving off-road?"


"Question: What percent of the time do you use your pickup for personal use vs. business/commercial use?"


The above might suggest heavy trucks are used more often for towing, assuming business use involves more towing than personal use.



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Old 08-18-2011, 10:26 AM   #21
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I see your point, but I'd bet there are overlaps that make your list misleading. Also, Since most people can't afford something as expensive as a 25/3500 and a daily driver, the percentage of personal/business and the number of times per year a little less relevant.
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:36 AM   #22
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So > 60% of the people who own pickups use them to tow stuff? Then add in others who "haul" stuff and the constant "no one who owns a pickup needs one" argument gets stale.

I bet the CR-V pickup won't be able to tow more than your average car.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:05 AM   #23
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I bet the CR-V pickup won't be able to tow more than your average car.
As long as that car is running to help out...
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A decent open top car hauler and say a WRX and you are already at about 5500lbs. I know lots of people who do not tow often, but when they do it is usually pretty heavy. Something to consider in the arguments.
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:41 AM   #25
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My bad with the ambiguity. I didn't mean actually towing a car. I meant an equal towing capacity to the towing capacity of an average car.

In other words, useless for the ~65% of truck drivers (from chart above) who tow stuff.
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