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Old 08-16-2011, 11:11 PM   #1
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Default A few products which I've used for the ultimate finish and maintenance.

Normally I don't give my secrets away but I've been happy with the results I achieved using some simple products, which if you haven't tried yet, you may be surprised at how well they perform. The pictures speak for themselves, and the vehicle is my 2011 Impreza.

Some of you might think "Of course it looks good it's a new car." You'd be incorrect in thinking my car was delivered looking this good. It has a lackluster finish and left something to be desired. If you have ever owned a white car you know exactly what I mean.

I also drive off road, through fields, in storms, new pavement, back roads, dirt roads, stone roads, and it is kept outside in the grass.. I don't have a garage so I straight up park in the back yard.

With that being said, I'm sure you will understand that keeping a car looking like this, is not easy to do without good products.


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Random Microfiber wash mit

Meguiar's Ultimate Wash & wax (the wax part I could care less about, it washes bugs and tar off the car with ease. The two main issues with any road bound vehicle, so if you aren't a big fan of wasting energy scrubbing, this may be for you.

To protect the paint.. Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0. I don't need to apply wax to the car anymore, however I was considering it just for the extra UV protection. This product applies like a liquid wax, and actually removes more easily than wax does, however it seals the paint so it is much more durable than wax and the shine is far superior to anything I've ever tried. One applied correctly, the cars paint will literally feel "soft" to the touch. Not just after first application, but after repeated washings.

To maintain that shine between washing, I use Meguiar's Ultimate quick Detailer spray. Spritz on and wipe the area completely clean with a fresh microfiber cloth and even black plastic will retain it's shine without the need for products to enhance the "darkness" of plastics.

And the photos of course: (taken in garage at work)









If you haven't tried these products, especially the Wolfgang paint sealant, it's worth the price. I'm a tough critic, and my idea of clean is perfection so to all my OCD car buddies out there, shine on.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:38 AM   #2
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your secrets are not secrets. alot of guys on here have been using that stuff since it came out, good products for a good price that perform like they should.

car looks good though.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:32 AM   #3
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Exactly!I 100% agree and I'm tired of people saying 1 product is better then the next.I started "detailing" 4 years ago and I fell for all the hype of the latest product...iv tried countless brands(Meguiars,mothers,eagle 1, optimum,pinnacle,Wolfgang,chemical guys and the list goes on).if you use the products correctly they pretty much all do the same job.some might be easier to work with while others do the job quicker, but theres no need to have 10 different brands of the same product.the impreza looks great.keep up the good work!
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:39 AM   #4
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i just found it funny that he thought these were secrets. regardless, car looks good and the products did their job.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:55 AM   #5
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i just found it funny that he thought these were secrets. regardless, car looks good and the products did their job.
....I was thinking the same thing but was hesitant to make a comment.

I have DGPS currently on my Challenger. ....and was using Wolfgang Fuzion on it prior to that. Both are good products but as with most of these things, it really depends on what you are looking for. Personally, I found DGPS fairly similar to Zaino Z-2.

As for all products being essentially the same, I disagree. However, (once again) it depends on what you are looking for in performance and other traits of a particular product (i.e. ease of application, contaminant shedding ability, sheeting/beading ability, slickness, aesthetics, durability, trim friendliness, etc.). ....and then there are all the types of LSP's that are available (i.e. WOWO's, WOWA's, traditional products, waxes/sealants/hybrids/coatings (nano/semi-perm, perm....), etc., etc.).
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:50 PM   #6
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As far as LSPs go yes there are some characteristics that are different. however I saw a thread done on detailingbliss.a high end detailer in Europe buffed 4-5 brand new black cars with the exact same process and products...the only factor that was different was the LSP they ranged from collinite 915 to swissvax best of show and dodo juice super natural.they grabbed 20 people off the street and asked them to rate the best looking finish.as far as depth and gloss...most of them could not see a difference so they just picked 1.collinite 915 came in 2nd and it was the cheapest.he ended his thread with it's 98% prep, do u think wax choice really matters? Now durability can be in question and ease of use.but to spend 100s for a wax because it supposed to make your paint "the best looking" is just a gimmick.properly prepped paint is the majority of what the finish product will look like.
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:19 PM   #7
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If you grab 20 people off the street my bet is most would think that swirls and cob webbing is supposed to be a part of the paint. They wouldn't be observant enough to notice sublte differences in LSP.

I do agree that paint prep is the biggest factor in the final look

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Old 08-17-2011, 02:05 PM   #8
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As far as LSPs go yes there are some characteristics that are different. however I saw a thread done on detailingbliss.a high end detailer in Europe buffed 4-5 brand new black cars with the exact same process and products...the only factor that was different was the LSP they ranged from collinite 915 to swissvax best of show and dodo juice super natural.they grabbed 20 people off the street and asked them to rate the best looking finish.as far as depth and gloss...most of them could not see a difference so they just picked 1.collinite 915 came in 2nd and it was the cheapest.he ended his thread with it's 98% prep, do u think wax choice really matters? Now durability can be in question and ease of use.but to spend 100s for a wax because it supposed to make your paint "the best looking" is just a gimmick.properly prepped paint is the majority of what the finish product will look like.
If I recall correctly, that comparison was focusing primarily on the ability of LSP’s to alter or enhance the finish in such a way that it would stand out from other products from the point of view of random observers. The point of that comparison was to show exactly what you mentioned. ….most folks probably wouldn’t be able to notice a visual difference between LSP’s on a well prepped finish. Prep (in this case) has the biggest impact on the outcome. ….although on a not-so-prepped car that most of the average public would be dealing with, I would say the differences between some products would be much more dramatic since you are relying on them to do more than just coat what is essentially a perfect finish. This is where cleaning ability (think AIO’s) and/or filling ability of some LSP’s would come into play.

However, aesthetics are just one characteristic to consider and (once again) it really depends on what you expecting from a particular product. Yes, durability and ease of use are factors but so are all of the others I mentioned. My point was that LSP’s are not really all the same in that respect:

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As for all products being essentially the same, I disagree. However, (once again) it depends on what you are looking for in performance and other traits of a particular product (i.e. ease of application, contaminant shedding ability, sheeting/beading ability, slickness, aesthetics, durability, trim friendliness, etc.). ....and then there are all the types of LSP's that are available (i.e. WOWO's, WOWA's, traditional products, waxes/sealants/hybrids/coatings (nano/semi-perm, perm....), etc., etc.).
Now, I’m not saying people need to have all sorts of LSP’s. …..even if you’re a professional it would really depend on the services you offer, the expectations of your clientele, etc. Personally, I do have a few myself in my cabinets at home. Partly due to the fact that I sometimes like to try new products but these days it’s more because I use them for different tasks/scenarios. I’m all for trying to keep things simple and would usually be the first to dissuade someone from making their LSP process more complicated by adding “toppers” and such just because they read that other people do it. ….so when someone finds a well-rounded product that works for them and they want to stick with, that’s all that counts in my opinion. As for me, I like having the flexibility in the characteristics of the products I currently use. ….whether it’s Opti-Coat, Opti-Seal, FK1000P, Zaino AIO, Klasse AIO, CQuartz C4, Fuzion, etc.
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:25 PM   #9
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Lol I came in here expecting "secrets". You call those secrets? haha
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:47 PM   #10
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Despite all of the obnoxious comments you have received, I respect you posting the results you've had with these products. Thanks for sharing. You do a fine job.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:29 PM   #11
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i just found it funny that he thought these were secrets. regardless, car looks good and the products did their job.
well, haha, the secrets part was a joke, you know how people ask you: "What's the secret to doing _______" To me when somebody asks me what the secret is to keeping the car that clean, I wonder if they ever washed their own car, or if they just go to the car wash.

The real secret, is just maintenance, not so much the products.

I also agree with what someone else said about "it's in the prep work" when it comes to paint repair from swirls, etching, droppings, water spots etc. Prep work to remove blemishes will yield the best results after any wash and wax for sure.

I would like to note that this wolfgangs paint sealant, either hides wrirls.. or my car never had any yet.. which is highly unlikely since the first time the dealer washes the car it gets swirls in the paint - I can't find a single one on this car yet and I've washed it with a single bucket many times.

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Old 09-23-2011, 05:22 PM   #12
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I personally swear by The Chemical Guys' products. But Wolfgang does make a good sealant.
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