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Old 08-18-2011, 05:56 PM   #1
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Default Acura TL brembos...

Didn't see anything about the TL brembos on the sticky page. Just got a set of acura black brembos what do I need to get them on my 2005 Wrx ? If I missed the page I'm sorry
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:09 PM   #2
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I don't recall anyone trying that swap? You are on your own.

Did you buy on a whim, knowing it would fit, or planned to try out for yourself as an exercise in futility?
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:10 PM   #3
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You know what - this I really do not know. You're the first I've seen that has shown an interest. Let us know what you find out.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:29 PM   #4
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i'm thinking for what you'll spend in time and money figuring out how to get those to work, you could have working sti brembos on your car.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:34 PM   #5
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I didnt spend a dime... When I bought my TL it had subs in it, I sold the TL and kept the subs and amp. The guy that owned the TL before me was selling a set of brembos so I traded his subs back to him for the brembos -
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:59 PM   #6
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Plus the brembos take up less space. If they'll fit might get them repainted gold
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:01 PM   #7
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Just keep in mind, that just because it says "brembo," on it, it does not mean it's universal for any and every car. The mounting points vary, the caliper offset, the pads, etc.

Most importantly, the pistons vary in size in order to provide proper brake bias.

You are really much better off not spending too much looking into this if it looks like it wont work, sell them to another TL owner, and use that money towards real Subaru fitment units.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:08 PM   #8
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Maybe look at Brembo brake sets (new) and others too (AP Racing for instance) and see if they crossover to the TL or vice versa or see if the TL is a completely different part number than a WRX. That might answer your question if they are a direct fit without taking the car apart.
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:02 PM   #9
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If you do manage a hack job and get them on the car, please test them out in an empty parking/area lot 1st. Retrofitting brakes is a dangerous proposition.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:23 PM   #10
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I figured somebody on here has been down this path before. You mean nobody has had TL brembos before. And I know just because it says brembo it doesn't mean it will fit I'm not a total tard I basically got them for free and i am exploring the capabilities of these very similar calipers. I've been told they'll fit from other people.

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Old 08-18-2011, 11:26 PM   #11
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If you do manage a hack job and get them on the car, please test them out in an empty parking/area lot 1st. Retrofitting brakes is a dangerous proposition.


Hack job? Dude you don't even know me lol. I've built many rides and I promise no hack jobs here.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:42 PM   #12
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These hawk pads have one part number and all those cars have brembos...




Hawk Performance HPS Brake Pad
Part Number: HB453F.585
Notes: This is for a set of 4 brake pads that accommodates 2 brake rotors.

Applications:

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 2003 - 2006 Front

Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2003 - 2005 Front

Ford Shelby Mustang 2007 Front

Ford GT 2005 - 2006 (Front and Rear)

Volvo S60 (R Models) 2001 - 2006 Front

Volvo V70 R AWD 2004 - 2006 Front

Acura TL (models w/ Brembo Calipers) 2004 - 2007 Front

Cadillac CTS-V (models w/ Brembo Calipers) 2004 - 2007 Front

Cadillac Seville, STS & SLS (Heavy duty brakes) 2006 - 2007 Front
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:48 PM   #13
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I guess it may depend on the year, but the piston diameters are different, Acura 1.501", STi 1.6875", CTS-V 1.75". The actual caliper is only the same for the Acura '04-'08 with the Brembos, but the pads, depending on manufacturer:
ACURA TL (2004 - 2008)
ACURA TL TYPE-S (2007 - 2008)
CADILLAC CTS V (2004 - 2007)
CADILLAC STS (2005 - 2008)
CADILLAC STS PLATINUM 2008
CADILLAC STS V (2006 - 2008)
FORD GT (2005 - 2006)
FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 (2007 - 2008)
FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500KR 2008
MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION (2003 - 2005)
MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION MR (2005 - 2006)
MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION RS (2005 - 2006)
MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION SE 2006
SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI (2004 - 2008)
VOLVO S60 R (2004 - 2007)
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Hey - are you still in cincy? if so bring them by and we can take some quick measurements and see what's what on these.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:01 AM   #15
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yes i am. what time u close m-f ?
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Hack job? Dude you don't even know me lol. I've built many rides and I promise no hack jobs here.
I didn't really mean it in a bad way. More that its going take some custom machining and trial and error to make it work. I did not mean to come of as a jab at you.
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what about the market, sell and repurchase correct fitment
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Old 08-20-2011, 02:56 PM   #18
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I didn't really mean it in a bad way. More that its going take some custom machining and trial and error to make it work. I did not mean to come of as a jab at you.
Ok man it's cool. Think I just need STI hubs
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Ok man it's cool. Think I just need STI hubs
people bolt up brembos to 5x100 hubs all the time. the hubs won't do anything for you.
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people bolt up brembos to 5x100 hubs all the time. the hubs won't do anything for you.
Correct.
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For someone that has "built many rides" you don't seem to know much about brakes. I don't mean any disrespect by that, there are lots of things I know little about too.

The shared pads among Brembos are pretty common, but says nothing about mounting pattern, radius, piston sizes etc. If you don't care about proper operation you could probably make them fit.

The Subaru Brembos are made to fit Subaru caliper mounting pattern, is that shared with Honda? I'm guessing not but you never know. Having a caliper bracket made is not that hard if you can fab stuff or have a place to make stuff for you.

I did look up the rotor size of the TL, it is a 310x25mm, 17.5 lbs, to be honest that is small, the stock new WRX rotor is 17 lbs, even though it is slightly smaller 294x24mm rotor. Honestly a stock Legacy GT with big 'ol iron sliders and 21lb rotors would walk all over those TL brakes from a heat capacity standpoint.

Not that you would have to use the TL rotor but what that means is the TL Brembo is designed for a 25mm thick rotor, that really limits what sort of beefy rotor you could use, that caliper wouldn't be able to work with a 326x30mm STI rotor.

If you made a bracket they might be able to work with the stock WRX rotors. Not a huge upgrade, but aluminum fixed calipers are nice.

Those small piston sizes might introduce some oddities, depending on rotor diameter.

I guess it depends whether you want to do something just to do it, or to be different, or you just need some decent brakes. If you don't even track your car you don't need anything other than decent pads and fluid.
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Why do all of this work? It's not like there aren't Brembo's made for Subarus...
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I do weird projects like this all the time... because it's fun. Good luck man, I hope you get them to work.
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people bolt up brembos to 5x100 hubs all the time. the hubs won't do anything for you.
Subaru did it on the '04 STi too. Same calipers front and rear '04-'07.
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not trying to steal the thread but while everyone is on the topic of brembo calipers, does anyone know if 04 sti brembos will interchange with 08 sti brembos?
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