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Old 08-19-2011, 08:02 AM   #1
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:02 AM   #2
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Default Cadillac resurrects the big luxury barge in Ciel concept



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Once in a while, but not often enough, a new concept from an automaker sort of blows you away. That happened last night with the new Ciel introduction from Cadillac, and we suspect we were not the only ones, given the gasp that went up from the scores who attended the reveal here on a foggy country club lawn in Pebble Beach, Calif.What amazed us was at how General Motor's luxury brand wasn't afraid to bring back the politically incorrect car for which it is best known: the luxury barge. The Ciel is l-o-n-g and beautiful, as sleek as a design as you'll find. After years of being forced to try to downsize luxury in smaller packages, GM finally gave its designers the freedom to convey the brand in the fashion in which it was meant to be expressed, the long form.

It's significant. GM officials say they want to unabashedly take Cadillac back to what it is known for -- big, beautiful cars -- not just the smaller yet savvy CTS's and SRX's of today. The brand needs to stand out.
"We believe it's a responsible size size that is consistent with what Cadillac is known for," says designer Clay Dean.

Or as GM marketing chief Joel Ewanick put it, "We don't want to be like any other luxury brand" and that Ciel is wonderful in that it's "derivative of nothing." In other words, in stands alone in a field of luxury cars that are being forced to be too much alike.

It may be big, but that doesn't mean it's wasteful: As a concept, the California-designed Ciel is powered by a twin-turbocharged version of the 3.6-liter direct injection V-6 engine, paired with a hybrid system using lithium-ion battery technology.

The dashboard is remarkably uncluttered and the rear passengers in the four-door droptop have a unique seatbelts that can double as blankets if top-down driving turns chilly.
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:10 AM   #3
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:25 AM   #4
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Impressive for its awfulness.

Sporting the ATS-V engine, at least.
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:44 AM   #5
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Pretty. Not my cup of tea, but I think it looks great.
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:05 AM   #6
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It's hideous in a beautiful sort of way.

I like it.
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:29 PM   #7
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we need more cars this beautiful/ugly. at least they cause some sort of emotional reaction.
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:07 PM   #8
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Rumor has it, you can see the grille from space.
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:07 PM   #9
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i think this car is really awesome as a concept. cadillac has always had pretty dramatic concepts that get pretty watered down in execution if they ever make it. my only critique of this is that it should have more meat on it's tires. not that they should stick out. they should go further under the car. it would look the same from the side, but from behind, it wouldn't look so much like it's on stilts. but overall, i think it's a clever integration of old design cues (from the top, it looks boattail-ish!) without making it look like a retro car.
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:42 PM   #10
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i think it's a clever integration of old design cues (from the top, it looks boattail-ish!) without making it look like a retro car.
This is the true merit of the design. The quirky naming scheme of the past fistful of years can leave any time now, though...
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:46 PM   #11
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So obviously they're still trying to figure out the tail? It isn't the length of it, it's the upward angle that makes it look funny to me.
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Old 08-19-2011, 02:15 PM   #12
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The thing is, the design is striking enough that, with a little marketing to snooty folks, they could put in the STS' $50k drivetrain and components and sell it for $100k.
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Old 08-19-2011, 02:32 PM   #13
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So obviously they're still trying to figure out the tail? It isn't the length of it, it's the upward angle that makes it look funny to me.
Seems vaguely Bentley-esque to me, rendered in Cadillac's more edgy style:



Overall I like the concept and the vision even though I think the particulars of this car (giant 4 seat convertible) are ridiculous.

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Old 08-19-2011, 02:45 PM   #14
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am i the only one who think this is reminiscent of the lincoln continental convertible?
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Old 08-19-2011, 02:56 PM   #15
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Agree with both the Bentley and Lincoln comments.
I hate that it doesn't have headlights, but there are some things about it that I really like.
It will be interesting to see what this looks like in production guise, if it makes it that far.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:03 PM   #16
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It's hideous in a beautiful sort of way.

I like it.
I agree with this 100%, the car is disgusting and yet its great. Its a contradiction.
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Old 08-19-2011, 07:53 PM   #17
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That thing is beautiful. I especially like the interior. That thing oozes "Caddy" to me.
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:17 PM   #18
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pretty cool. now make it 2/3rds scale, ditch the back seats, fix the grille, and it will be epic.
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:44 AM   #19
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Perhaps they could shrink it down to something that could compete with the SL and BMW 6 series...
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:20 AM   #20
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Actually reminds me of an old chris craft boat. Not a fan of the interior, but I sorta like it- I'd never buy it, but its a cool concept.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:28 AM   #21
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does the ***** magnet come stock or is that a factory upgrade?


but seriously.....dunno how i feel about this, and its "blanket seat belts"
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:12 PM   #22
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Anyone know where this scenic view is shot? Any car shot in this place will make it look beautiful.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:42 PM   #23
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Pebble Beach, probably during Concurs week.
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It's angular, beautiful, fun and uses high grade finishes. Read - will never see a production run.
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I dont know why it reminds me of this, it just does.
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