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Old 08-21-2011, 12:39 PM   #1
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Default THESHOPCT- 2007 STi w/ AMR T60 8cm | 432WHP - 400WTQ

Event: Dyno Tune !
Location: THESHOPCT | Norwalk, CT
Ambient Temp: 85ish degrees
Elevation: sea level
Weather: About to rain!

Car: 2007 STi
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Dyno Info: Dyno Dynamcis - Reads like a dynojet "The Moon Dyno"
Peak HP at RPM: 432 @ 6200
Peak Torque at RPM: 400 @ 4700
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 240WHP
Target Boost: 24PSI
Target AFR: 11
Fuel: Straight 93
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CP Pistons
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Well it's been the week of the AMR turbos.

I thought I'd join in

This is Bryan's 07 STi

We originally had this car on the dyno the day before the final dynosheet

During that dyno session I noticed something wrong.

Turned out to be large amount of oil in the FMIC from not running an AOS.

We cleaned the pipes / FMIC and went back at it.

Temperature in the dyno room wasn't ideal but we got the job done.

On the dyno we were seeing about 93% injector duty on 24psi - I knew once we hit the street we were going to be maxed out - oh I was right -maxed out - 104%

So Bryan left with two maps on the fly - Low boost 20psi / High boost 24psi.

Below are the low / high boost dyno sheets including his original STG2 dynosheet overlayed with the T60 high boost

With a little more boost and some e85 things would get very interesting.

Sorry FP Red time to move over AMR T60 is way better


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24PSI -



20PSI vs 24PSI




STRONG Stock Turbo vs AMR T60 -

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Old 08-21-2011, 02:42 PM   #2
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looks very similar to my graphs...im loving my turbo even with the 7cm hot side
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Old 08-21-2011, 03:26 PM   #3
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Really good work, John. I love how flat you made that curve. Big-block feel. What a pleasure to drive.

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Old 08-21-2011, 03:33 PM   #4
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Nice numbers. I like that torque curve
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:20 PM   #5
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Thanks guys - guys does feel great.

Because of the amount of oil in the intercooler I've asked the customer to come back for a check up in a few weeks.

So I'll have a update then.


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looks very similar to my graphs...im loving my turbo even with the 7cm hot side
Got your PM - I'm gonna go get it now
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:27 PM   #6
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Throw my plot up too. They are literally identical. This would finally put an end to Ron and myself's feud about the larger hotside on this turbo, lolll
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:56 PM   #7
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Throw my plot up too. They are literally identical. This would finally put an end to Ron and myself's feud about the larger hotside on this turbo, lolll
I couldn't find your pumpgas plot...but I got your boys.. I'll pm him in a few
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:00 PM   #8
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What injectors and fuel pump ? looks good!
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:02 PM   #9
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What injectors and fuel pump ? looks good!
255 and dw850s
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:38 AM   #10
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What is your opinion on the t60r vs a rotated 30r as far as spool and power been trying to decide if I should do a rotated hta 3076 or go with the t60r
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:15 PM   #11
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What is your opinion on the t60r vs a rotated 30r as far as spool and power been trying to decide if I should do a rotated hta 3076 or go with the t60r
The HTA3076 will spool a little faster than the t60

and the HTA3076 is 57lb/min while the t60 is a 60lb/min turbo - so the t60 is a little bigger.

If you get the t60 for the right price I would get one - I believe AMR's website says $1,499 (before it was $1,800+ - that was too much for me)

Personally at this power level the T60 is the way to go.

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Old 08-28-2011, 02:28 PM   #12
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thanks for the answer have had so many tell me rotated for the power but money is money I would assume a 10.5cm upgrade is worth it also?
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:58 PM   #13
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thanks for the answer have had so many tell me rotated for the power but money is money I would assume a 10.5cm upgrade is worth it also?
Then your spending money lol

I would keep the 8cm and see how you like it first- I'm sure it will be plenty.

Do you have all the supporting mods for this ?
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:09 PM   #14
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Need injectors still trying to find right turbo
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:24 PM   #15
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Is the T 60 a TD06 based housing?
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:08 PM   #16
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Very nice graph.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:53 AM   #17
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Need injectors still trying to find right turbo
What are your goals?
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:46 PM   #18
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The HTA3076 will spool a little faster than the t60

and the HTA3076 is 57lb/min while the t60 is a 60lb/min turbo - so the t60 is a little bigger.
You guys have any comparo plots you could post up?

even though the t60 has a higher rated compressor i would still expect it to make less power than the HTA76 due to the HTA's 4" inlet and bigger turbine housing. Plus the HTA is ball bearing. If you're starting from scratch (IE you dont already have the turbo inlet, up pipe, intake, etc for a stock location setup) then the price difference between stock location and rotated is not very much.
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Old 08-29-2011, 02:25 PM   #19
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Already have all stock location bolt ons looking for around 420whp pump and maybe as high as 460whp with meth
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:27 PM   #20
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t60, fp red, element GT65 are gonna be your cheapest options cause they're journal bearing......the ATP GT35 and the Blouch Dom4/5 are ball bearing and more expensive.
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t60, fp red, element GT65 are gonna be your cheapest options cause they're journal bearing......the ATP GT35 and the Blouch Dom4/5 are ball bearing and more expensive.
That.
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:38 PM   #22
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Already have all stock location bolt ons looking for around 420whp pump and maybe as high as 460whp with meth
The cheapest route is the T60, unless you find a used HTA FP Green - but I personally like the T60 power band better

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Thanks for the advice I appreciate it
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The cheapest route is the T60, unless you find a used HTA FP Green - but I personally like the T60 power band better
Does the AMRT60 have a td06 compressor housing like the green, red , etc?
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:01 PM   #25
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Does the AMRT60 have a td06 compressor housing like the green, red , etc?
really dont have a clue = maybe someone can chime in
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