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Old 08-27-2011, 04:24 PM   #1
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Default Tire Shine + My 05 STi = Crash

So I decided to clean my car yesterday, washed it nice and clean, put some Armorall Tire Shine, and watched it how beautiful it looked. After an hour I decided to grab my camera and head out to take some photo's. Drove to a park, got some shots, and decided to head home. Decided to take the freeway and right before the freeway was a nice sharp right. Usualy I fly through there going like 40-50, this time there were cars and I took it easy going 30mph. In middle of the turn my tail came out, I thaught I would streighten the car and the front tires gripped me into the wall. I didn't want to hit anyone around me and the wall looked solid =)

I have went around that turn 100's of times, even at one time doubleing the speed. Armorall Tire Shine caused this. I swear it felt like I was on ice in middle of the turn. The sidewalls are soft, it must of came in contact with the pavement.

This was my first accident ever... I never imagined seeing my car like this.

Anyways I have made a little slideshow before and after the accident.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/0EMJkE9Q28U

ALL THE PICTURES FROM THE ACCIDENT ARE HERE
http://imageshack.us/g/717/img8906hl.jpg/


Here are the pictures 20 minutes before the accident.









20 minutes later...



http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/262/img8916r.jpg



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Old 08-27-2011, 04:30 PM   #2
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did you wipe your tires off with a rag after applying it? doesn't look like it...
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:33 PM   #3
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If your selling it, I'll buy it.
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:35 PM   #4
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Man, Just buff it out you'll be alright hahaha Just kidding.

Have you seen my brother's STI? Its an 05 White on Silver BBS with Texas Plates that say BOOST
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:37 PM   #5
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Your tire tread looks dangerously low from the angle of your post crash picture, possibly a combination of tire shine and lack of tread.
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:38 PM   #6
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I really dont think "tire shine" caused you to wreck... Your tires look low on tread, and you were probably "goofing off" in your car...
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:48 PM   #7
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lol dumbass


sorry if that's harsh, but seriously mane?

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Old 08-27-2011, 04:52 PM   #8
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I really dont think "tire shine" caused you to wreck... Your tires look low on tread, and you were probably "goofing off" in your car...
They are not low on thread. I rotated my tires 4 months ago. My front always eats up the outter tire and my rear always the inner so I rotate them every 6 months to keep it even. I have more than 50% thread left in middle of the tire.

I wasen't goofing off, theres no point in doing that in middle of traffic. When I want to goof off I take the backroads where there is nobody.

Lesson learned in my opinion. Everything happens for a reason. It could of been worse, if it were to happen on the corner 100 feet ahead, I would of slid onto the freeway and maybe even rolled and someone could of hit me going 60-80mph.

Not a scratch on me, which is the most important thing. Cars are replacable, people aren't.


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lol dumbass
If you are going to leave comments like this, don't leave comments at all.
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:57 PM   #9
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tread in the dry decreases grip. slicks have more contact area, thats why they are used in dry weather racing. tread is only good for removing the water from the contact area when raining. gotta be the armor all
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Old 08-27-2011, 04:58 PM   #10
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So I decided to clean my car yesterday, washed it nice and clean, put some Armorall Tire Shine, and watched it how beautiful it looked. After an hour I decided to grab my camera and head out to take some photo's. Drove to a park, got some shots, and decided to head home. Decided to take the freeway and right before the freeway was a nice sharp right. Usualy I fly through there going like 40-50, this time there were cars and I took it easy going 30mph. In middle of the turn my tail came out, I thaught I would streighten the car and the front tires gripped me into the wall. I didn't want to hit anyone around me and the wall looked solid =)

I have went around that turn 100's of times, even at one time doubleing the speed. Armorall Tire Shine caused this. I swear it felt like I was on ice in middle of the turn. The sidewalls are soft, it must of came in contact with the pavement.

This was my first accident ever... I never imagined seeing my car like this.

Anyways I have made a little slideshow before and after the accident.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/0EMJkE9Q28U


Here are the pictures 20 minutes before the accident.









20 minutes later...



http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/262/img8916r.jpg





PQ...
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:02 PM   #11
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lol dumbass
Hey now, There is no need for that kind of truthfulness here. We know tire shine had nothing to do with it.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:32 PM   #12
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tread in the dry decreases grip. slicks have more contact area, thats why they are used in dry weather racing. tread is only good for removing the water from the contact area when raining. gotta be the armor all
I'm not sure if your serious, if you are...welll

He is not driving a "race car" with "slicks" on a "race track" that has been cleaned of sand, debris, fluids etc....He has street tires, probably with an improper alignment judging by his ware, and as he posted to only have 50% in the middle of his tire left and only 10% of inner and outer tire. This is very dangerous to drive on with a street tire or any one for that matter.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:39 PM   #13
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Sorry to see another Sti destroyed, were you driving aggressively ? Turn doesn't seem that sharp to cause an accident under dry conditions. I see a part out or an insurance auction in your cars future
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:42 PM   #14
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Sorry to hear about that, OP
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:43 PM   #15
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I'm sorry to hear about that. It's kind of weird that you JUST cleaned it up and took pictures of it 20 minutes before the accident.
Do you feel the need to donate it to "Carver Snell is a kid who would take care of an STi fund"?
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:12 PM   #16
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I forgot my laptop was still datalogging... Grabbed it, luckly it went into sleep but my RomRaider Logger was still open.

Here are the last moments of throttle, speed, and MAF.

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Old 08-27-2011, 06:52 PM   #17
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My front always eats up the outter tire and my rear always the inner so I rotate them every 6 months to keep it even. I have more than 50% thread left in middle of the tire.

So you have (had) rear toe-out and front toe-in. You do realize that's how you align a car if you'd like for mad tite dorifto, right?

I'm not saying the tire shine had nothing to do with it (although I doubt it), but that alignment was probably the primary cause.
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:55 PM   #18
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that sucks to see that. glad that your ok. if you don't get it fix atleast you could buy an impreza L and build an RSTI out of it.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:23 PM   #19
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Send this to OT (but give me warning so I can edit this before they see it)
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:31 PM   #20
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Thats quite bad, guess the wall did not help either. Ouch...
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:38 PM   #21
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Dang bro that's blows...looked like a tough hit!
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:39 PM   #22
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Ugh that brings back bad memories of when some asshat ran my wife into a wall Hers was totaled though
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:41 PM   #23
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tread in the dry decreases grip. slicks have more contact area, thats why they are used in dry weather racing. tread is only good for removing the water from the contact area when raining. gotta be the armor all
i'm 10% dumber after having read this.

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So you have (had) rear toe-out and front toe-in. You do realize that's how you align a car if you'd like for mad tite dorifto, right?

I'm not saying the tire shine had nothing to do with it (although I doubt it), but that alignment was probably the primary cause.
while that is true, i'd attribute the accident to the tire shine. if that is in fact how his car is aligned and has been so for awhile, he's driven his car with that alignment long enough to know how the car behaves. as he stated, he's taken that turn much faster without issue.
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:44 PM   #24
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you're blaming Tire shine for an accident? That's got to be the dumbest excuse I've heard. Your tires are clearly trashed. As a detailer too Ill say tire shine couldnt have caused your tires to do that, especially if you've driven a few miles on them after application.
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:02 AM   #25
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Tire shine can definitely decrease grip although you still had what looks like 90% of the tire still exposed with no dressing on it so I doubt it will completely whip out the rear. Whenever detailing a car before a race or something I never use tire shine because of the fear of this but I never heard of it ever happening unless someone sprayed a ridiculous amount of shine without buffing it off which would lead it to run off onto the tire.
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