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Old 09-11-2011, 09:54 PM   #1
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Question 2011 WRX front bumper/lip protection?

I have no idea why a car designed off a rally car has such a huge front bumper overhang, but I now have a nice scuff under and on the edge of the front bumper lip. I have to believe they make something to protect this area, like a thin plate of carbon fiber, metal, or something. After looking under there the left and right sides are lower than the center, which didn't help the matter. Why is this area so far out past the front wheels, and so low to the ground? Why couldn't they make the lower 3 inches of the bodywork out of black plastic, then its just a simple replacement part, no painting. Either way my 2011 WRX with a 1000 miles on it, is now damaged, nice!

Do they make any protective scuff plates for this area?
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:59 PM   #2
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i haven't heard of anything made for them, that said, it's not a rally car. its a road car. how did you damage it? driving onto a curb? usually people don't do that that said, i accidentally did, rolled into a pot hole while pulling into a parking space...
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:11 PM   #3
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Pulling in my driveway, slight incline but not that bad....but the front bumper is just sticking out way too far past the front wheels. I'd say its worse then the Corvette I had....I don't think it was a very practical design. They really should have done the black plastic lower pieces all the way around, a lot of cars do that now, and it makes sense. Starting to think my choice of a new car wasn't a good one, too many flaws, in places that bother me most....sigh!
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:13 PM   #4
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So get rid of it. Easy
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:15 PM   #5
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mine cracked at around 3000 miles. o well
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:31 PM   #6
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I love it. someone damages their car and all of a sudden it's subaru's design flaw instead of however you screwed up. take some ownership of the issue. I understand you need to vent but it's just silly to think there is some hideous oversight because you f'ed your bumper up.
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:33 PM   #7
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I love it. someone damages their car and all of a sudden it's subaru's design flaw instead of however you screwed up. take some ownership of the issue. I understand you need to vent but it's just silly to think there is some hideous oversight because you f'ed your bumper up.
I should be able to pull in my driveway without scraping a bumper, you know like I have with every other car....so yeah its a design flaw, especially on a car that was based off a rally car? What happens when they hit a bump? They rip the bumper off?!?!
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:42 PM   #8
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I should be able to pull in my driveway without scraping a bumper, you know like I have with every other car....so yeah its a design flaw, especially on a car that was based off a rally car? What happens when they hit a bump? They rip the bumper off?!?!
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Old 09-11-2011, 10:53 PM   #9
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get a black replica front lip for it... problem solved.
It's not nearly as painful to scrape as your painted bumper is.
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Old 09-11-2011, 11:49 PM   #10
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I should be able to pull in my driveway without scraping a bumper, you know like I have with every other car....so yeah its a design flaw, especially on a car that was based off a rally car? What happens when they hit a bump? They rip the bumper off?!?!
I would say driver error. Or maybe blame your driveway? I don't know how anyone could hit the front bump with how high it sits!
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:06 AM   #11
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I don't know what to tell you. my car's even lowered 1.5" and I have no clearance issues whatsoever, going over multiple inclines and speedbumps at both work and home. let's see a picture of your driveway? I am thinking your driveway is built very oddly or you just don't drive carefully enough.

time to own up and pay for your mistake instead of blaming the car imo. if your driveway is that steep of an incline you need to take it slow and at an angle.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:40 AM   #12
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Sounds like user error to me.

Don't drive into the parking space dividers in the future. Simple enough.
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:01 AM   #13
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You must have one hell of a driveway. I'm lowered with a zerosports front bumper and I don't have any issues unless it's ridiculously steep.



Problem solved, and you can even make it yourself. My bf made one on a day he had off for his wrx. Or you can try pulling in your driveway a tad bit sideways.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:32 AM   #14
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I have the same damn problem lol

not only my bumper is scuff, but my corner splitter are too! paint peeling off, just had those painted early this year and no more than a month it alread got scuff/scratch on 'em

bottom line, subaru did a poor paint job on the subie.

but i have to agree with some of the comments on here, its driver error.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:25 AM   #15
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I have the same damn problem lol

not only my bumper is scuff, but my corner splitter are too! paint peeling off, just had those painted early this year and no more than a month it alread got scuff/scratch on 'em

bottom line, subaru did a poor paint job on the subie.

but i have to agree with some of the comments on here, its driver error.
Just to be sure I took a look at all the photos I have of my other cars, the 2011 WRX's front bumper is just hanging out over the front wheels way too far and low. I bought the hatch to avoid this issue in the back, but I've been worried about the front end, and obviously for good reason. Going to have to get someone to spot me when I pull in and see how close its actually getting, but not much I can do about the driveway because of the sidewalk. I'd like to find a replaceable piece of carbon fiber to put under there, that would take the scuffs. Does the OEM SPT front lip piece offer any protection? Or is it hanging down even farther? I can't tell from the photos, and it might just get ripped off if its too flimsy. I just figured they must make some kind of protection for under there. Checked my Road and Track mag, there is an article with a silver STI at the "Isle of Madness" road race, wouldn't you know it....the brand new 2011 STI in the pictures has its front bumper held together with duct tape.....LOL

I'm a big fan of the black plastic pieces on the lower portion of a lot of cars out there, it offers protection and its easy to replace. It would have made a lot of sense on this car, why paint all the way down where rocks and sand are going to damage those pieces? I would think you would build the car to deal with off-road damage in mind. We don't all live in the city and pimp our cars out
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:39 AM   #16
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So let me get this straight...

You are hitting your front bumper on your driveway (which I do too...just go at more of an angle)...so you want to put a 700 dollar carbon fiber piece there to take the abuse?

Get a knock off Bayson R poly lip and call it a day. Why would you put a carbon fiber lip as a cement impact protection piece? You are just going to be here in a week complaining about how Subaru's design caused you to break your expensive CF lip. But...any lip you put on the car is going to decrease your ground clearance.

I put on the SPT lip before the Bayson R was available to protect the bumper and because it looks good on the 2011 bodies.

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I would think you would build the car to deal with off-road damage in mind. We don't all live in the city and pimp our cars out
They do...it's called a SUV or truck...and most SUV's aren't even built for it these days. You bought a rally inspired car that is tuned for the road. Not a rally car that happens to be street legal.

And FWIW...in just about every rally event I have watched...the front bumpers of the cars are all destroyed by the end of the run regardless of manufacturer. I swear they replace them after every race like they are a wear item. They also lift and lower the car depending on the track. On tarmac, they lower the car to stock levels for handling and on gravel/dirt they raise the car for more ground clearance.

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Old 09-12-2011, 07:54 AM   #17
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So let me get this straight...

You are hitting your front bumper on your driveway (which I do too...just go at more of an angle)...so you want to put a 700 dollar carbon fiber piece there to take the abuse?

Get a knock off Bayson R poly lip and call it a day. Why would you put a carbon fiber lip as a cement impact protection piece? You are just going to be here in a week complaining about how Subaru's design caused you to break your expensive CF lip. But...any lip you put on the car is going to decrease your ground clearance.

I put on the SPT lip before the Bayson R was available to protect the bumper and because it looks good on the 2011 bodies.



They do...it's called a SUV or truck...and most SUV's aren't even built for it these days. You bought a rally inspired car that is tuned for the road. Not a rally car that happens to be street legal.

And FWIW...in just about every rally event I have watched...the front bumpers of the cars are all destroyed by the end of the run regardless of manufacturer. I swear they replace them after every race like they are a wear item.
I'm looking for a thinner carbon fiber sheet like lip piece, I just found an $81 piece of 1/8" x 6" x 18" dragonplate carbon fiber board online. I'm thinking I can put those under the drivers and passengers side lip edges that stick down and out too far. Not sure how I would attach it though, this way I can replace it if need be. I could of swore to God I had seen some higher end cars come with something like this to protect the front bumper. How far down does you SPT sit then the original bumper? I've seen some picture of the Bayson R but that seems to be too thick, and sticks out past the bumper edge. Also, not looking for the carbon fiber to be an item to show off, so I could care less about looks, I want to protect the lip edge.
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I'm looking for a thinner carbon fiber sheet like lip piece, I just found an $81 piece of 1/8" x 6" x 18" dragonplate carbon fiber board online. I'm thinking I can put those under the drivers and passengers side lip edges that stick down and out too far. Not sure how I would attach it though, this way I can replace it if need be. I could of swore to God I had seen some higher end cars come with something like this to protect the front bumper. How far down does you SPT sit then the original bumper? I've seen some picture of the Bayson R but that seems to be too thick, and sticks out past the bumper edge.
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Is it sturdy enough to get scraped? Or will it most likely just get ripped off? I think they said it was ABS plastic, so not sure if its really just for looks. I wish the dealer had one installed for me to see.
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Is it sturdy enough to get scraped? Or will it most likely just get ripped off? I think they said it was ABS plastic, so not sure if its really just for looks. I wish the dealer had one installed for me to see.
It is pretty sturdy actually. You would have to hit it into a curb really hard to get it to come off at all. It is ABS plastic which means one of the real benefits is that if you do scratch it...sand...polish...respray flat black and it looks good as new for under 5 dollars.
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It is pretty sturdy actually. You would have to hit it into a curb really hard to get it to come off at all. It is ABS plastic which means one of the real benefits is that if you do scratch it...sand...polish...respray flat black and it looks good as new for under 5 dollars.
How much did the dealer charge installed?
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How much did the dealer charge installed?
I installed it myself and got an insane deal. I would use a 20% off coupon that you get in the mail for your dealership. If I had it to do over again...I would just pick up the Bayson R version. Looks the same for a lot cheaper.
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Is the Bayson R not for sale yet? I checked what I think is their site, and I don't see it listed. Though I did see a previous thread you were in that shows the lip in pictures.
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There were Several complaints about the 2011 Front bumper cracking on 3GWRX.COM. I think it just comes down to you just have to live with it. I have to come to a stop at the low point of my drive to not scrape.
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Looks like this a bigger issue than just me ----> http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2108977

This bumper is just too far forward and too low, bad design obviously, looks like living with it is the only answer.
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