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Old 09-12-2011, 02:41 PM   #1
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Honda of Europe has just dropped the first images of its 2012 Civic. Every time we see a new Euro-spec Civic, we feel left out on the stateside since the European model always has a dynamic design and high-quality interior.

“The designers of the new Civic wanted to keep the sporty and advanced elements of the car’s character but tailor them to communicate the new model’s more dynamic feel,” Honda said in a statement. “Sources of inspiration included a ‘blended wing body’ aeroplane in which the fuselage and wings blend into a single body for superior aerodynamic performance.”


Honda said that nearly all of the body panels of the 2012 Civic have been redesigned with focus on ride and handling and cutting back on CO2 emissions. We’ll get all the powertrain details at the 2011 Frankfurt Motor Show tomorrow.

The 2012 Honda Civic will hit dealers in Europe starting early 2012.


































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Old 09-12-2011, 02:48 PM   #2
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Looks like they just took some of the elements from the CR-Z and mated them to the Civic coupe. Even some Prius touches like that glass panel along the trunk for the rearview. Looks good though... Any tech specs on it?
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:49 PM   #3
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USDM version will lack projector headlights and anything else making this car unique and attractive.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:45 PM   #4
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USDM version will lack projector headlights and anything else making this car unique and attractive.
USDM version?

Did you misread the OP or just post your blather reflexively?
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:12 PM   #5
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USDM version?

Did you misread the OP or just post your blather reflexively?
Fine.


*If they ever decide to make a Civic hatch here*
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:24 PM   #6
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USDM version?

Did you misread the OP or just post your blather reflexively?
I guess to his credit, the flagship Civic Si doesn't have projectors...
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:44 PM   #7
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Cut out the rear doors, and you've got a nice lookin' hatch with a good interior.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:53 PM   #8
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Well I wouldn't call it pretty, but unlike the U.S version, at least the Euro-spec car is interesting looking...kind of reminds me of the old civic wagons.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:13 PM   #9
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Looks better than the garbage we get.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:16 PM   #10
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Maybe we just need to stop being the number 1 market to get the good stuff.
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:19 AM   #11
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4.5k rev limit? Diesel?
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:00 AM   #12
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I like the last generation design better.
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Old 09-13-2011, 03:15 AM   #13
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I wish Americans were excited about hot hatches as much as europeans are. The get so many hot hatches to choose from it ridiculous.
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:54 AM   #14
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I think it's improving here, though. There's many more hatchbacks, and even wagons, in the North American market than there were even a few years ago.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:04 AM   #15
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Better looking that what we got but still not very attractive, imo.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:20 AM   #16
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I think it's improving here, though. There's many more hatchbacks, and even wagons, in the North American market than there were even a few years ago.
there are more hatchbacks but way less wagons.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:33 AM   #17
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But more than there were a year or two, or even three ago I think. Yes Subaru cut the Legacy, but Acura's got the TSX, Audi still has the A3 and A4 (if not the S4 and A6/S6 anymore), there's still BMW wagons for now.... the Cadillac CTS... several new hatchbacks, too....
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:50 AM   #18
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That's a nice Civic. But that would be a very expensive civic, if it was sold here. especially how low the dollar is to the yen.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:52 AM   #19
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why do we always get the **** end of the stick?
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:28 AM   #20
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I don't care for that green, but otherwise...

I really don't understand why Honda doesn't think these things would sell here. In the absence of a Fit Si, this would be a great step up in performance while still retaining most of the utility. Pretty much all of the Korean mfrs are selling hatchbacks here, VW doesn't have any trouble moving Golfs, Ford Focus and Fiesta, etc. How can there be a business case for, say, the Accord CrossTour AND - not or, but and - the ZDX, but no business case for this case?

We're probably not far from replacing the wife's '06 Civic sedan. If this was sold here at the time, it's a virtual certainty that it would be what we buy.
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:33 PM   #21
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I really don't understand why Honda doesn't think these things would sell here. In the absence of a Fit Si, this would be a great step up in performance while still retaining most of the utility. Pretty much all of the Korean mfrs are selling hatchbacks here, VW doesn't have any trouble moving Golfs, Ford Focus and Fiesta, etc. How can there be a business case for, say, the Accord CrossTour AND - not or, but and - the ZDX, but no business case for this case?
Honda has stated that they won't bring the hatch to North America as sedans are still king in the US and all the Civic hatch would accomplish is cannibalizing Fit sales. This car looks much better than the turd we get for a Civic in North America.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:25 PM   #22
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I don't know why everyone just assumes that this car is better than the US version. I'm sure the suspension tuning is sportier, but that's something Honda could've easily done with the US Civic and chose not to.

As for the actual hardware of the car, I'm not terribly familiar with all the details, but seeing that the Euro version has a torsion beam rear suspension, it doesn't seem all that much more high-brow than the US version.

I'll admit it does look hell of a lot better than the new US Civic though.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:21 PM   #23
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This looks horrible but the last gen looked even worse irl.
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That's a nice Civic. But that would be a very expensive civic, if it was sold here. especially how low the dollar is to the yen.
Unless Honda decided to go a different route, these would still be built in Swindon.
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I wonder if Honda is planning on making a rear window that you can fully see out a accessory that can be ordered at the dealership.
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