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Old 09-27-2011, 07:48 PM   #101
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An all new vehicle that just happens to look almost identical to another of their vehicles. Still, I really like it. Personally, I'd prefer the 2 liter version. I guess it's too early to ask if it'll have the stop-start system of the Euro version. For that matter, does anyone know if Subie is planning on making stop-start available in the U.S. sometime? I know that Mazda isn't for the moment because the way the EPA tests cars, the benefits don't show.
Someone should make post so we can vote on what we want in XV 2013: options, engine size etc.
I'm disappointed that they did not introduce this "Stop/Start" feature in the current Impreza 2012.
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:50 PM   #102
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:08 PM   #103
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From Motor Authority (sorry if this is old news, but I don't remember seeing it)-

For the States, McHale said, it may even have a unique front grille and fascia, though he declined to reveal specifics.


http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...2013-exclusive

I like the front, but it would be nice to see a bit of differentiation. I'd really like to see that body colored bit in the grill like on the concept. I think it looked awesome.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:14 PM   #104
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I'm disappointed that they did not introduce this "Stop/Start" feature in the current Impreza 2012.
I know they were testing this idea out even for Tribeca based on a Tribeca-related survey a few years ago. It is disappointing the whole lineup doesn't have this standard as its a good way to increase the MPGs of the whole lineup...
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:03 PM   #105
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I know they were testing this idea out even for Tribeca based on a Tribeca-related survey a few years ago. It is disappointing the whole lineup doesn't have this standard as its a good way to increase the MPGs of the whole lineup...
Based on information I'm getting around, it would increase the fuel economy on the Impreza 2012 from 7.5L/100km to 6.6L/100km (31.3MPG to 35.6MPG)
Though, this feature would have to have a disable button for winter driving.

Subaru would have a good "PR" reviews if it included this feature in the current Impreza 2012 but for some reason or another somebody is not thinking this way in Subaru.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:41 PM   #106
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Based on information I'm getting around, it would increase the fuel economy on the Impreza 2012 from 7.5L/100km to 6.6L/100km (31.3MPG to 35.6MPG)
Though, this feature would have to have a disable button for winter driving.

Subaru would have a good "PR" reviews if it included this feature in the current Impreza 2012 but for some reason or another somebody is not thinking this way in Subaru.
They'll use it when they need it to make their CAFE goals. Until then it takes a more costly heavy duty starter, higher capacity battery and alternator. Not having it on the 2012s is about maximizing profits until it has to be done in 2016 when the corporate Car+Truck average rises to 35.5 mpg.

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Old 09-29-2011, 03:41 PM   #107
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They'll use it when they need it to make their CAFE goals. Until then it takes a more costly heavy duty starter, higher capacity battery and alternator. Not having it on the 2012s is about maximizing profits until it has to be done in 2016 when the corporate Car+Truck average rises to 35.5 mpg.

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Perhaps you're right, although Kia is making stop-start available in the new Rio and updated Soul, their 2 lower end cars. If it takes off for them, no doubt other carmakers will take notice.
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Old 09-29-2011, 04:17 PM   #108
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Perhaps you're right, although Kia is making stop-start available in the new Rio and updated Soul, their 2 lower end cars. If it takes off for them, no doubt other carmakers will take notice.
The problem with the Subaru is that they are not a leader when it comes to technology, they are followers.
Someone has mentioned they were testing this technology long time ago with Tribeca; why isn't it on the market nobody knows.
Reading about it in various magazine, it apparently only cost $400 extra to implement.
Does oil companies pay somebody to keep that technology on the shelf? Maybe.

Nowadays, the game is all about MPG and Subaru is playing catch-up.
I was reading that Subaru is planning on making Hybrid back in 2009.
The recent news is that they are planning their own mild hybrid by 2014:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...ybrid-approach
read it: 2020 maybe :-/
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:04 PM   #109
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The problem with the Subaru is that they are not a leader when it comes to technology, they are followers.
Someone has mentioned they were testing this technology long time ago with Tribeca; why isn't it on the market nobody knows.
Reading about it in various magazine, it apparently only cost $400 extra to implement.
Does oil companies pay somebody to keep that technology on the shelf? Maybe.

Nowadays, the game is all about MPG and Subaru is playing catch-up.
I was reading that Subaru is planning on making Hybrid back in 2009.
The recent news is that they are planning their own mild hybrid by 2014:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...ybrid-approach
read it: 2020 maybe :-/
It's probably because you're new here that you aren't familiar with how Subaru operates.

Subaru is AWD all the time. That and the weight associated with it put Subaru at a disadvantage for MPG. Subaru tends to guinea pig new technologies in other markets before bringing them to the US. Subaru is too small of a company to risk its reliability record just to bring technologies to market. Subaru is conservative, and rightfully so. Look at what happened to Audi with its sudden acceleration claims. Look at what happened to Toyota last year. The amount of sales Toyota lost from its brake/acceleration woes would have put Subaru out of business if it were Subaru instead of Toyota.

Regarding Subaru's hybrid, they developed their own system that was cost prohibitive. After the Toyota tie up, Subaru was all in for using Toyota's system; however, there were a lot of difficulties creating a system that would work acceptably as a symmetrical AWD hybrid. Things went back to the drawing board, and now its coming to fruition.
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Good news!

2.5 sounds good. I hope they just replace the Sport trim with this, though. Also hope they keep the Impreza name and don't try to pretend it's not an Impreza. Impreza XV 2.5i is fine. Or Impreza XV Sport 2.5i.
Don't know if it's been discussed elsewhere, but Subaru sent out a survey for potential names. Most of the candidates listed were real clunkers, IMO. They did posit 'XV' as an option however.
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:14 AM   #111
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FB20 or 2.0D, otherwise don't bother, the FB25 Is a polished turd for the American market again, the EJ25 would gain 2mpg requiring synthetic oil too.

Having driven the 2.0D in a heavier Outback in the UK, we seriously don't know what we're missing over here, 42mpg and enough torque to tow your house.

Let Subaru know we're not stupid, we want the good stuff.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:36 AM   #112
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FB20 or 2.0D, otherwise don't bother, the FB25 Is a polished turd for the American market again, the EJ25 would gain 2mpg requiring synthetic oil too.

Having driven the 2.0D in a heavier Outback in the UK, we seriously don't know what we're missing over here, 42mpg and enough torque to tow your house.

Let Subaru know we're not stupid, we want the good stuff.
If we could only contact Subaru directly we would let them know but there is no email or fax number for Subaru Japan (at least I couldn't fine one).

We have to contact Subaru via their Representatives which might or might not forward the information we request to Japan office.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:06 PM   #113
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If we could only contact Subaru directly we would let them know but there is no email or fax number for Subaru Japan (at least I couldn't fine one).

We have to contact Subaru via their Representatives which might or might not forward the information we request to Japan office.
Don't know if it's still active, but I had a brief correspondence with FHI's Investor Relations about five years ago using the following address. You're welcome to give it a try... ho-irsite@ho.subaru-fhi.co.jp

(BTW, it doesn't go to a specific individual. I think "ho-irsite" stands for "home office-investor relations site" or something similar.)
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:02 PM   #114
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Don't know if it's still active, but I had a brief correspondence with FHI's Investor Relations about five years ago using the following address. You're welcome to give it a try... ho-irsite@ho.subaru-fhi.co.jp

(BTW, it doesn't go to a specific individual. I think "ho-irsite" stands for "home office-investor relations site" or something similar.)
Thank, yes I think it seems to be active; the email did not come back to me.
I just dropped them an email both in Japanese and English requesting earlier delivery of XV in Canada :-/
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Don't know if it's been discussed elsewhere, but Subaru sent out a survey for potential names. Most of the candidates listed were real clunkers, IMO. They did posit 'XV' as an option however.
What names did they offer?
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Old 10-01-2011, 03:38 AM   #118
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Someone should make post so we can vote on what we want in XV 2013: options, engine size etc.
I'm disappointed that they did not introduce this "Stop/Start" feature in the current Impreza 2012.
The new impreza comes with idle-stop for shure in japan...

http://translate.google.com/translat...ww.response.jp

But the best idle-stop is coming from Mazda who will be coming most innovative now. They can stop the engine with the pistons in a certain position. In one cilinder they inject en spark the sparkplug so they don't need a startmotor to start every time.
As we know start-stop systems in Europe, there are a lot of situations the system doesn't work. With still a cold engine, if you got the AC on, in extreme hot conditions.... It's realy a sort of gadget to reduce CO2 numbers but in fact it's not realy fun to drive...
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Old 10-01-2011, 10:54 AM   #119
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I like the black plastic bits on all of the lower panels and the front bumper, wish I had those on my 2011 WRX!
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Thank, yes I think it seems to be active; the email did not come back to me.
I just dropped them an email both in Japanese and English requesting earlier delivery of XV in Canada :-/

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http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...s-in-2012.html

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2013 Subaru XV Confirmed for U.S. in 2012

You knew the bright orange Subaru XV shown in Frankfurt had to be headed our way, and during last week's 2012 Impreza launch event, Subaru's director of U.S. communications, Michael McHale confirmed it. The 2013 XV will go on sale in the U.S. sometime in 2012. Its actual name is still TBD.

It's a direct replacement for the Impreza Outback Sport, which is discontinued for the 2012 model year. Looking at the XV, it appears to be a mild variation on the redesigned Impreza hatchback with raised suspension. However, its wheelbase is slightly shorter (103.7 inches versus 104.1) maybe due to slightly different positioning of the suspension arms. Its track is slightly wider, too (60 inches even versus 59.4/59.6), and the European-spec show car was wearing wider tires (225/55R17 vs. 205/50R17 on higher-line 2012 Imprezas).

Subaru's 2.0-liter diesel boxer four-cylinder engine will be available in Europe, but we expect Subaru to offer its new 148-hp, 2.0-liter FB20 gasoline four-cylinder in the U.S. with either the CVT or five-speed manual. We're hoping the 170-hp 2.5-liter FB25 engine already used in the Forester might be part of the lineup as well.
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I think the Subaru XV will replace my Kia Sportage SX when this lease is up. I am disappointed by the 14 gallon tank and the city fuel economy. This past tank averaged 10.8 mpg. Fuel economy is hit or miss with it. Some tanks I get over 25 mpg, and others I get low to mid teens. This tank was a ****ing abomination.

I like the Subaru XV for its Subaru AWD (the Kia AWD is certainly a compromised AWD system), the Forester-like ground clearance , ruggedness, the more quality interior than previous Subaru models (My Forester had the cheapest interior since my '98 Kia Sephia), and mostly because of the fuel economy.

This little thing looks like it could kick ass on terrible pothole ridden roads, deep snow, rutted dirt/gravel roads, and do it while getting 30+ mpg. I hope it gets close to the 36 mpg 2012 Impreza fuel economy.
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Some tanks I get over 25 mpg, and others I get low to mid teens. This tank was a ****ing abomination.
Do you manually calculate the mileage or just check trip meter readings?
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Diesel... you hear me SOA? DIESEL! Bring it!

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Subaru's 2.0-liter diesel boxer four-cylinder engine will be available in Europe, but we expect Subaru to offer its new 148-hp, 2.0-liter FB20 gasoline four-cylinder in the U.S. with either the CVT or five-speed manual.
If this turns out to be the truth, then shame on you SOA!
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Diesel... you hear me SOA? DIESEL! Bring it!



If this turns out to be the truth, then shame on you SOA!
Sent them a plea via the contact us link on the US web page. They responded back that they will not bring the diesel, but hey look at their other offerings.
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