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Old 07-31-2002, 06:53 PM   #1
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Default ATTN: STi 4pot front brakes owners!

Guys,

I need to get a brand new set of front pads for an upcoming track day event. Do you guys know what the 4pot front brake pad part number is? or aftermarket will work too!
And where to get them?

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Old 07-31-2002, 07:03 PM   #2
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SOLD ! I will come pick them up! when are you going to be home?
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Old 07-31-2002, 07:14 PM   #3
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Cal, StopTech has the Axxis Ultimate pads for sale on their website they are pretty cheap also. It runs for like $60 for the set of 4pot pads. Check it out: www.stoptech.com . I know that I am going to get some for the Legacy and possibly for the RS in the future I first want to see how the STI Sport pads are first.
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Old 07-31-2002, 09:13 PM   #4
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Gary,

Thanks for the headsup!

Do you happen to know if Axxis' 300z TT front pads will work? IIRC, Subaru STi 4pot and Nissan 300z TT fronts are the same.

Thanks!

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Old 07-31-2002, 09:32 PM   #5
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Yes pad shape is common with 300zx TT or N/A, doesn't matter (calipers were different, pad shape wasn't).

Stoptech has the subaru 4-pot pads in their database, Matt added them yesterday, I verified fitment for him for the Axxis Ultimates Saturday.

See my response to the thread in the suspension forum too.
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Old 07-31-2002, 10:00 PM   #6
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Concillian,

Your helpful input is greatly appreciated!

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Old 08-01-2002, 12:01 AM   #7
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Default Just a thought!

Cal

Ques! would you trade your black 01RS rims for my WRX wheels!
dose it have the tire's on! cuz i would like to have a set of black wheels on my car...let me know!

later
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Old 08-01-2002, 01:36 AM   #8
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Larry..

$600 w/o tires..

but I might just keep them and put some race tires on them.

still debating..

lol

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Old 08-01-2002, 05:57 AM   #9
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Cal:

I have a set of Axxis Ultimate 4 pot pads sitting in my room

The part number at stoptech.com is 63-223-0647. They'll ship by UPS ground by default, depending how fast you need em. These are an awesome deal for less than $70

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Old 08-01-2002, 01:56 PM   #10
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Ed,

Are you selling yours?

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Old 08-02-2002, 01:20 AM   #11
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Naw, sorry, i need to put them on my OWN 4 pots when i get them

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Old 08-02-2002, 01:43 PM   #12
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Not trying to hurt a sale but....

Everything I know about brakes and those I have talked to through the years.

Used pads = BAD idea if you value your rotors!

I could be wrong and so could others... I am always open to new things, so If some one has facts that state otherwise please explain.
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Old 08-02-2002, 02:28 PM   #13
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All of the guys who work for brake companies in the Suspension, Brakes and Tires forum all say new rotors should be broken in with USED pads. New pads should be broken in with USED rotors.

New pads + new rotors = increased chance of developing DTV (disc thickness varitation) or problems with runout (warping)

Apparently you can get away with it with street pads, but for Carbon Metallic pads it's a very good idea to follow that procedure.

Also they recommend using track pads at the track and street pads on the street if you swap pads at the track, your track pads will be used and the next time you use them will be bad? I would just make sure I went a little easy on them the first few laps to allow them to bed in again.
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Old 08-02-2002, 02:37 PM   #14
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Sounds good to me... I just love hear/say

So this is what I get from your post...

Used pads & used rotors = Bad idea just like I said no?

(hmmmm I did not specify used rotors in my first post, but that is what I meant, does that count?)

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Old 08-02-2002, 02:53 PM   #15
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PM DBAsteve and ask him. His is the opinion I would most value, seeing as how most people who have aftermarket rotors have DBA rotors.

Given what he and others have said is happening in the bedding in process I just don't think it would be a big problem.
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Old 08-02-2002, 03:29 PM   #16
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Originally posted by Concillian
PM DBAsteve and ask him. His is the opinion I would most value, seeing as how most people who have aftermarket rotors have DBA rotors.

Given what he and others have said is happening in the bedding in process I just don't think it would be a big problem.
I may just do that...

I am mostly speaking from my own recent costly experience.

Story time-
Back in Feb. There was an MR2 track day @ Laguna Seca. I have always heard stories of how Laguna eats brakes! This was my first chance to hit Laguna, ( a boyhood dream) I have been on other tracks, but this was LAGUNA SECA! So being who I am I bought and installed new pads about 1 month prior to the event. The old pads still had 50% plus life, and the rotors were only 17K miles old. I gave the new pads many heat cycles, and close to 1k miles to allow for bedding. I followed the " New pads should be broken in with USED rotors." method...Sure enough about one month later my rotors were VERY groovy, and braking ability was decreasing. This ended with the purchase of new rotors and new pads...now every thing is back to normal, and I have seen no ill effects for 10K miles, of which 80% has been canyon running, with one track day thrown in for good measure.

IMHO used pads from someone else's car that have gone through the bedding process and already reflect the surface area of the previous owner's rotor, may lead to some premature wear on a new (meaning the new owners) rotors and or the rotors causing prenature wear on the pads. My POV may be flawed, and I will go do more research, your information is much appreciated ...Maybe the best bet would be to forward this on to DBAsteve and see what he has to say. I would really like to hear from some club/pro racers with lots of experience though.

(BTW-I am not trying to be an A$$ just as always looking for info and If I need to adjust my belief system I will. I always find it hard to catch where someone is coming from on boards...the one draw back. Misinterpretation of typed words with out emotion can lead to bad blood,)

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