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Old 09-24-2011, 01:10 AM   #1
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Okay I am in desperate need of some guidance, I am 16 and just bought my dream car. a 2002 wrx, I have always loved subarus. Their is a drift event coming to Pensacola and the guy wanted a 240sx to get back into the drifting scene this weekend so he posted the wrx for well below what it is worth, and he was going to keep it if he could not sell it in time. I bought it. My friend and his mechanic dad checked it out and said it was mechanically sound, it runs great, I do know alot about cars for a 16 year old but when it gets highly mechanicaly, I am still a noobie to the subies.

The wrx has 113k miles on the chasis, and 55k miles on the engine swap. The guy is a certified mechanic and he planned on rebuilding the engine for more hp, then he realized for the same price he could swap the engine for an ej208, make it run on a single turbo and right hand drive.

He replaced the stock transmission with 04 jdm wrx transmission and did 04 wrx jdm rear diffs.

The car runs great and pulls hard I do have a few concerns though:
-He was a mechanic and cut corners
-Their is something secretly wrong with it
-Since the ej208 is a japanese only engine, if anything goes wrong with it, i will be screwed.
-The air-fuel ratio gauge says the car is always running rich and you can smell it sometimes, is their anyway to make it run at an ideal ratio?
-How do I check the engine mounts to know if they need to be replaced, when the car idles it shakes. Is it the motor mounts or would torque dampers help?
-The oilpressure gauge is never not on 90lbs/in^2, is the gauge broken or is their something wrong with the car?



Can anyone please just tell me alot about builds like this and the ej208 and any of these issues? I will post pictures of my car and engine when I figure out how too lol.

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:39 AM   #2
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An ej208 is not a Japanese engine. An ej207 is. Did he swap in an ej207? As for the single turbo, all US spec turbo Subaru's are single turbo. You need to take this car to a specific Subaru shop who can actually verify what you say is on the car is in fact on the car.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:45 AM   #3
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I know they are single turbo because us chasis's cannot hold the twin turbo set up, he said it was an ej208, which is the twin turbo engine from the legacy gt in japan, whats the difference in the 207 and 208?

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:46 AM   #4
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:09 PM   #5
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Well, I have no idea then. Why he chose to turn a tt setup into a single turbo instead of just swapping in a ej207 is beyond me. Good luck finding out what all was done, I hope it's reliable for ya.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:02 AM   #6
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Well, I have no idea then. Why he chose to turn a tt setup into a single turbo instead of just swapping in a ej207 is beyond me. Good luck finding out what all was done, I hope it's reliable for ya.
The tt set up will not fit in a usd chasis, between power steering left hand drive and another reason that i forgot=s
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:09 AM   #7
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The tt set up will not fit in a usd chasis, between power steering left hand drive and another reason that i forgot=s
Your missing the point there bud, I get why the twin turbo setup won't fit, I don't understand why he didn't use a japanese spec single turbo setup on the first place, like a ej207. It has forged internals as well plus you can find them in twin scroll. So, my statement still stands, find a Subaru shop that has done numerous jdm swaps and double check to see what you actually have.
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:22 AM   #8
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argee^^ ... see if you can search for his username on here an find out where he got all this stuff from :-| u can search his email one EBAY also...maybe he is full of ****
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:30 AM   #9
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okays, i have a bad feeling about this lol. took the car out for a drive to the beach today, did some pulls on the bridge, it ran great minus running so rich.
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When is it running rich?
How rich is rich?
What is your fuel mileage like?
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:12 AM   #11
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When is it running rich?
How rich is rich?
What is your fuel mileage like?
It is alwaysss running rich, it has the air-fuel ratio gauge and its always on the highest rich, you can smell it slightly but especially when I run it hard. I have no idea, I just got it and have only filled it up once but when I baby it which has been 95% of the time(judging by the meter) im getting 20-21
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It is alwaysss running rich, it has the air-fuel ratio gauge and its always on the highest rich, you can smell it slightly but especially when I run it hard. I have no idea, I just got it and have only filled it up once but when I baby it which has been 95% of the time(judging by the meter) im getting 20-21

does it have a REAL wideband with an 02 sensor? or is it a autometer from autozone? that matters a lot :-| it may not be running rich. when you floor it of course ur going to smell burning fuel/oil :-| buy a tactrix 2.0 cable an you can actually find out whats up with your car. really burning fuel? bad tune? what has been tuned on the ECU before...EVERYTHING. dealer prolly would not be able to know right away by a glance. in fact I dont know many subaru dealers that will just walk out an look. most are not very helpful when it comes to that here where I live.


an BTW...do not run the piss out of it :-| ... WHAT IF something does break? ... how you going to replace that part if you don't know what engine you have *not that most ej's arent the same but just saying*
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:20 PM   #13
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I dont run it hard, I cant afford the gas/tickets lol, I baby it and usually shift around 2700rpm/run 2100 rpm around town 90% of the time.

The sensor thats giving me the readings is an aftermarket meter that is on the dash, it has the boost, oil pressure and air-fuel ratio. I dont think the meter is just broken, I can smell the gas just sitting their and it has a little bit of build up on the body kit over the exhaust.
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:41 PM   #14
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It is alwaysss running rich, it has the air-fuel ratio gauge and its always on the highest rich, you can smell it slightly but especially when I run it hard. I have no idea, I just got it and have only filled it up once but when I baby it which has been 95% of the time(judging by the meter) im getting 20-21
If you're actually getting 20-21 you're not really running rich, at least not very rich, when cruising.

If you go up a hill, then on the way down let off the throttle while in gear, the gauge should go to max lean. This shuts off the injectors and the wheels are essentially pumping fresh air through the engine. If the gauge still reads rich in this condition, you can be pretty confident the gauge is broken.

Is there a cat in the exhaust? the smell could be a de-catted exhaust. Black mark on the bumper also happens when you run an exhaust without a cat.

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Old 09-27-2011, 09:44 PM   #15
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You bought a big bag of ass and want us to sort it our for you? Seriously?
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:27 PM   #16
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^ Pretty much sums it up.

From reading these posts, I have come to the assumption that you have:

1. ej208 block
2. probably a stock wrx turbo system
3. detuned ( running rich ) or very poorly tuned ecu
4. crappy worthless gauges that look pretty on your dash and actually mean absolutely nothing

You need to do the following:

1. Identify your motor, there is a serial # on the top of the casing - record it and google the engine code
2. Identify your turbo system, since you know nothing about what it all should look like I suggest taking a picture and posting it here. We need a picture of the turbo, closeup on the compressor housing, the headers, and the uppipe.
3. Either forget about the gauges completely and find someone who knows opensource to tune the car. Or, get real gauges and find someone who knows opensource to tune the car.

I actually can't believe how helpful people have been up to this point, NASIOC is lookin up!
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:14 PM   #17
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just think that you should start with an easy NA car and learn about how everything works in that. Then jump into the turbo scene and spend time reading alot of these threads.

Along with doing the above post use the damn search function. most likely your questions are not technical at all since you dont know much about the car at all. The 2.0 turbo thread should answer any and all basic/moderately complicated problems.

If possible meet up with local ppl from your thread section and see if anyone can help you as well.
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sorry for posting stuff in this forum if it is not directly related im new here and still figuring out where to post everything
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^ Pretty much sums it up.

From reading these posts, I have come to the assumption that you have:

1. ej208 block
2. probably a stock wrx turbo system
3. detuned ( running rich ) or very poorly tuned ecu
4. crappy worthless gauges that look pretty on your dash and actually mean absolutely nothing

You need to do the following:

1. Identify your motor, there is a serial # on the top of the casing - record it and google the engine code
2. Identify your turbo system, since you know nothing about what it all should look like I suggest taking a picture and posting it here. We need a picture of the turbo, closeup on the compressor housing, the headers, and the uppipe.
3. Either forget about the gauges completely and find someone who knows opensource to tune the car. Or, get real gauges and find someone who knows opensource to tune the car.

I actually can't believe how helpful people have been up to this point, NASIOC is lookin up!
Please dont call my first car a bag of ass, and thank you for the advice this is what I was looking for, I will post pictures of the turbo/engine tommorow
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:32 AM   #21
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Please dont call my first car a bag of ass
He didn't.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:47 AM   #22
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that was meant for the post above him
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:33 PM   #23
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Post in this -> thread <- and introduce yourself. Some of the guys can be a bit abrasive at times, but it's all a front. We're a pretty tight nit group, and while I don't recognize the car,(and the craigslist ad has been removed) one of the other guys might and could possibly know some of its history. We can also point you in the direction of a competent local tuner to pull some logs and see whats what.
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