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Old 10-03-2011, 03:47 PM   #26
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STI and WRX tophats are the same part.
That's what I was hoping on but was having a hard time finding info on.
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:05 AM   #27
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DAM you!!.. Still waiting for the STi joints on pre-order since July
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:08 PM   #28
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Installing my RCE/Bilstein set-up this weekend hopefully. I currently have the Epic springs/stock struts on my 2010. With the OEM front camber bolts maxed to full negative, I'm getting -1.6 and -1.9 in the rear and -0.8 and -0.9 in the front. So, will prob set the rear of the new RCE/bilsteins to +5mm over the middle position to decrease some of the - camber in the rear and buy some 1 degree camber bolts for the front in order to get -1.75 neg up front and about -1.25 to -1.5 or so in the rear. After that, I'll see how I feel about the sway bars. Was looking at the Eibach Sways as they are signifigantly less than the other brands.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:11 PM   #29
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no dust covers on the front struts?
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:27 PM   #30
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I dont mean to hijack the thread or anything but you guys seem to have a good amount of suspension knowledge with the GR Hatch, I have the eibach pro kit springs on my 09 WRX hatch, and Im looking to get rid of the stock struts/shocks, will those black bilstiens fit my set-up? what do they retail for if so? thanks in advance
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:07 PM   #31
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Does this exist for an '02? Cant seem to find it for anything older than a brand new subby.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:05 PM   #32
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Yea man, where are your dust boots?

Sure the inverted struts are a little less bothered by scratch's up the upper shaft, but your going to want to keep water from accumulating in the bottom half of the strut.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:06 PM   #33
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I dont mean to hijack the thread or anything but you guys seem to have a good amount of suspension knowledge with the GR Hatch, I have the eibach pro kit springs on my 09 WRX hatch, and Im looking to get rid of the stock struts/shocks, will those black bilstiens fit my set-up? what do they retail for if so? thanks in advance
They would if Bilstein sold them separately. Not sure if they do though and weren't listed in their catalog at last check a few months back. The spring rate for the RCE springs is about 120 lbs more than the Eibachs...so it may not be what you'd want anyway. Ideally, you would shell out the $$$ for the proper setup, but I understand $1350 + shipping is a big chunk of dough. It's what I wanted to begin with when I bought my Epic Springs and was trying to convince myself I'd be ok with them.
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:04 AM   #34
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Yea man, where are your dust boots?
I just noticed both installs pictured in this thread are missing the dust boots...

Guys you need to get those dust boots in ASAP, especially if you live in the rust belt. Sand and salt will make quick work of those, and re-chroming is not cheap.
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:31 AM   #35
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They would if Bilstein sold them separately. Not sure if they do though and weren't listed in their catalog at last check a few months back.
the factory boot can't be made to fit over? I could swear I've seen pics of people doing that.
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:52 AM   #36
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the factory boot can't be made to fit over? I could swear I've seen pics of people doing that.
You are supposed to use the factory covers for the front Bilstein struts. The rears come with new covers. (at least it was that way when I was in the initial buy for my 2010 WRX.)
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:18 AM   #37
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You are supposed to use the factory covers for the front Bilstein struts. The rears come with new covers. (at least it was that way when I was in the initial buy for my 2010 WRX.)
Mine are on right now.

Theoretically speaking...as long as the seals are good (which they are from Bilstien) the dust covers don't do much of anything. Some would argue that dust covers actually do more to trap in debris than prevent it from coating the shafts.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:33 PM   #38
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Mine are on right now.

Theoretically speaking...as long as the seals are good (which they are from Bilstien) the dust covers don't do much of anything. Some would argue that dust covers actually do more to trap in debris than prevent it from coating the shafts.
I have my dust boots on as well, but I have to agree with rsutton at least a little. My dust boots did not fit all that well and I have a nice gap all the way around the bottom edge were it doesn't seal very nicely at all to the shock body. While this probably isn't that big of an issue when the suspension is under load, I don't know why they didn't throw in some proper fitting boots with the shocks. Unless I'm alone and my boots were just strange...
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:43 PM   #39
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If the damper has a good seal (KW, Bilstein, etc.) then you should be fine. Dust boots never really seal very well anyway.


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I dont mean to hijack the thread or anything but you guys seem to have a good amount of suspension knowledge with the GR Hatch, I have the eibach pro kit springs on my 09 WRX hatch, and Im looking to get rid of the stock struts/shocks, will those black bilstiens fit my set-up? what do they retail for if so? thanks in advance
Yes the Bilsteins can be purchased separately if you want to use them with another spring option.

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Does this exist for an '02? Cant seem to find it for anything older than a brand new subby.
You can get the RCE springs and something like a Koni or Tokico Damper.
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:47 PM   #40
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what do you think about the Perrin intake ?
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:15 PM   #41
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Can anyone chime in on how the ride is with these compared to say.....BCBR coilovers? Would prefer to go a little lower than the pictures are showing in this thread, but if the ride is that much more harsh with BCBRs I would want to go with this set up.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:08 PM   #42
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You will have more suspension travel with this setup as compared to something like a BC kit, and with normal street driving that is good. It will keep you off the bump stops and make the ride more comfortable
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:20 AM   #43
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Guys it is not the seals, those are fine at keeping the crap out of the housing.

This is what happens when you forget the boot. This was about 6 months, granted it is the salt belt, not likely to have this problem everywhere, though I wouldn't really want sand and other debris compromising the chrome finish either...


I didn't forget the boot on the other side so I had a great comparison, it looked good as new.

Odi at feal was able to polish it up since re-chroming in expensive. Its not a critical seal like a piston rod, so it should be fine.

LOL a vendor giving out bad advice, not cool you should know better.
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:57 PM   #44
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anyone with these have any scraping issues or the need to always be on the lookout for steep driveways? I had this with my last car and don't want to go there again. I wish these didn't lower the car at all.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:02 PM   #45
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anyone with these have any scraping issues or the need to always be on the lookout for steep driveways? I had this with my last car and don't want to go there again. I wish these didn't lower the car at all.
That's such a big question. I was just filling up the car at a service station today, watching people pull in their Camcords and scrape their bumpers one after the other. Of course I didn't scrape mine, I know how to pull in at an angle, tire first, from the street, and likewise how to exit.

Even stock height cars are going to scrape here or there, since there is no standard for expected clearance when building a driveway or a parking lot entrance.

If you want to stay at stock height, you can read some of my other posts in these Bilstein threads or PM me, I can guide you on setting this suspension up to barely lower the car. Even as it comes, this is not a Honda/Veedub slamming suspension at all.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:14 PM   #46
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So my reasoning for not putting the covers on was I'm not driving with these on the car in winter. But I will most likely put some on when I get them off the car.

Ride height is hardly changed. Maybe 20mm or so. No scraping issue if you pay attention.

Still loving these on the car. However now that the weather is getting colder the wrx is developing a ton of rattles. The ip to the clock makes a ton noise. The meter visor also does.

I will be driving the car at the nashville tour at the end of october. We will see how it does with myself and an stu champ driving it. To really enjoy this suspension you gotta go drive it hard. Its very fun
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:16 PM   #47
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That's such a big question. I was just filling up the car at a service station today, watching people pull in their Camcords and scrape their bumpers one after the other. Of course I didn't scrape mine, I know how to pull in at an angle, tire first, from the street, and likewise how to exit.

Even stock height cars are going to scrape here or there, since there is no standard for expected clearance when building a driveway or a parking lot entrance.

If you want to stay at stock height, you can read some of my other posts in these Bilstein threads or PM me, I can guide you on setting this suspension up to barely lower the car. Even as it comes, this is not a Honda/Veedub slamming suspension at all.
I live in San Francisco and there are a lot of obstacles out here. I couldn't even get my last car in/out of the garage without pulling out ramps every time. I'm loving the WRX now, don't have to worry about a thing, but the stock suspension is horribly soft and bouncy.
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Old 10-16-2011, 10:36 PM   #48
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There's another review thread on here about these...but I just put mine on RCE/Bilstein setup on today replacing the EPIC springs w/ OEM struts/shocks. Ride height went up 1/2" over the Epics, which is fine by me really. The car did look sweet and perfect height aesthetically on the Epics, but have been scraping the front on everything between the wife and I no matter how careful we've been, and since we have a steep driveway as well. Car now has a 3 finger gap rear and 3.5 finger gap front, and that's with the SIR clip set to +5mm ride height in the rear to level things out and reduce some neg camber in the rear. Installed it with a -1.75 degree camber bolts up front and set them to max negative. Will be getting an alignment soon and will post numbers on that as far as what it comes out too. Expecting -1.2 to -1.4 rear and maybe -1.8 or so up front hopefully. We'll see.

RIDE IMPRESSIONS: Only drove the car briefly on the way home from installing it myself at my uncle's hangar, but it obviously feels more planted/proper than the Epics. Haven't had a chance to really rail a corner or clover-leaf on ramp yet (an area where the Epic's were very unsettled as the dampers were unable to keep the suspension in compliance with the road causing slower cornering speeds than stock even.)

I can tell that I'm going to want sways already though. I guess I could live without them, but once you have a car that is properly set-up with minimal roll, you're spoiled. I'll post an update with pics and more impressions in the next day or two. Looking at the Eibach F&R sways.

Install tip: I def recommend raising the rear by putting it up one position above center ring on the clip closer to the top hat if you want a closer to even wheel gap. And like I said earlier, the rear IMO has too much neg camber, so raising it up a hair helps with that.
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Do the GTWORX Bils' come pre-assembled out of the box (aside from top hats)?

Last edited by DCsubaru88; 01-05-2012 at 11:04 PM. Reason: Nvm, further reasoning made me realize its the top hats that finalize the assembly.
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Do the GTWORX Bils' come pre-assembled out of the box (aside from top hats)?
Wut?? Without top hats there wouldn't be anything to hold the spring on... They really aren't difficult to put together.
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