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Old 01-06-2012, 05:39 PM   #51
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anyone with these have any scraping issues or the need to always be on the lookout for steep driveways? I had this with my last car and don't want to go there again. I wish these didn't lower the car at all.
There is an option for the Regular Guy springs. They lower by 5mm (or not at all with 2011 STI <- my preferred choice).

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Old 01-06-2012, 05:44 PM   #52
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Do the GTWORX Bils' come pre-assembled out of the box (aside from top hats)?
Give Myles a call, he can have them pre-assembled as a complete unit. Just got to fork out extra for the top hats. Go Myles!

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Old 01-08-2012, 11:21 AM   #53
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They do not come assembled. Its pretty easy to find top hats.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:20 PM   #54
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I just wanted to chime in here. I'm running the "regular" spring/revalved Bilsteins on my 2012 WRX sedan and I really really like the set up. I'm also using RCE F/R sways for a complete package. I had several phone conversations with Myles before going this route and it came out perfect for me.
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:00 PM   #55
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I just wanted to chime in here. I'm running the "regular" spring/revalved Bilsteins on my 2012 WRX sedan and I really really like the set up. I'm also using RCE F/R sways for a complete package. I had several phone conversations with Myles before going this route and it came out perfect for me.
How much did this lower the car? How much harsher is the ride? I want to do this with whiteline sways but for now its still the family car.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:26 AM   #56
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I just wanted to chime in here. I'm running the "regular" spring/revalved Bilsteins on my 2012 WRX sedan and I really really like the set up. I'm also using RCE F/R sways for a complete package. I had several phone conversations with Myles before going this route and it came out perfect for me.
Yes please comment more on your setup. 25 f/r sways seem pretty beefy, I also was contemplating doing whiteline sways... maybe because the RCE sways are hollow, they aren't directly comparable to whiteline bar thickness??
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:47 AM   #57
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The Original Bilstein set up is designed to be a high performance replacement for the factory set up. Check out a the search. There are a lot of reviews/posts about these components. RCE/GTworx is now also offering a re-valved version with a slightly softer spring for those who don't want the original set up.
I bought mine for autocross. I didn't want to mess with trying to dial in a coil over setup. The Bilstein set up with the Yellows is FANTASTIC! It may be a little harsh for a complete daily driver, but for me, I don't notice the difference in the ride and the benefits far out weigh the cost. I'm running a 25f/22r sway bar.
I highly recommend this set up. If you are just looking for a little more performance, talk with Myles @ Race Comp Engineering and ask about the re-valving option. Those that have opted for that, are liking the step up in performance, with the softer daily ride.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:35 PM   #58
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Apparently the cup kit comes with Blacks now, not yellows. I've only read one review of Blacks on Bils, that's why I ask.

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Old 01-27-2012, 03:17 PM   #59
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^ You get to choose.

EDIT: unless you're referring to the actual color of the struts. They are all black in color. The revalved softer struts are visually identically. If you're talking about springs, the softer ones are indeed black, the firmer ones are yellow.

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Old 01-27-2012, 03:52 PM   #60
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^ You get to choose.

EDIT: unless you're referring to the actual color of the struts. They are all black in color. The revalved softer struts are visually identically. If you're talking about springs, the softer ones are indeed black, the firmer ones are yellow.

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Oh, ok cool. Yeah I was talking about springs.
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Old 01-30-2012, 02:16 PM   #61
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Sorry, haven't looked at this thread in a while. The setup does not lower the car much, just a tad. Can't show any pics as i'm running my snow/steelies right now. Ride is firm, but I like it. Right now the frost heaves feel pretty rough, but it would probably be that way with the stock struts. The short wheelbase doesn't help! I'm still working on the suspension as my new 2012 doesn't have the feel I liked in my 04 which had just about every suspension mod as well as a STi steering rack. I know I'm going for an ALK and rear diff bushings, after that I'm not sure yet.
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:32 PM   #62
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After having the stock suspension on for the winter I put the bilsteins and yellows back on today.

Yep still love them. Honestly like them better then stock. They feel more solid where the stock suspension always sounds and feels like its underdamped.
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:51 PM   #63
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Hesitant to pull the trigger on bils+yellows.. seems like a lot of dough but everyday I keep telling myself I have to upgrade the dampers. I need more convincing! How did you find tophats (and hardware, I assume?). I like the idea of having both swappable.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:04 AM   #64
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I found them used here on the forums.

Even if you bought them new I cant imagine them being that much.

In my opinion this addresses the biggest weak point of the car. Do it!!
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:48 PM   #65
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I think that is just default now.

Sorry to hijack the thread with pics of my car...

Stance on the new suspension.

Keep in mind...how low my car was with this modification was a distant worry. The was a performance first mod that is paying huge dividends already. Ideally, I actually didn't want the car to come down much at all as I use it for mountain biking and a slammed car would cause issues in that area. According to RCE, the car comes down 15mm with this setup from stock. I am assuming the springs need to settle a little bit so this is the highest it will be. I can also adjust the rear down some more if I want to as it is in the middle height position.





Thats a sick lookin WRX what rim/tire size are you running?
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:51 PM   #66
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Yup. It's only worth swapping tophats if you have an 08 WRX, as that car seemed to get the mushiest top hat.

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Which top hat would you recommend? I read somewhere that some tophats cause excessive wear on the bushings if paired with shocks or struts...
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:49 PM   #67
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Had this setup for 15 months now. Really liking it, but still haven't done the sways yet. I bought mine used on here from a forum member who stated they came with STI top hats and were assembled. Well, they clunked around quite a bit even though I could find nothing. So after eliminating the possibilities, I removed the susp a few days later and re-installed with my stock 2010 WRX top-hats and problem solved! The also had the ride height a bit higher with the STI hats, and I think the spring was just achieving free length over bumps on rebound causing a little clunking. The OEM top hats solved that like i said, and brought the ride height lower to the advertised drop amount.

Another poster here did mention something about the '09 up top hats being the same part as the STI? I never verified that. But, sounds good to me.

As far as the comfort, have no worries even with the yellow springs...it's FINE. You will NEVER think this setup is too harsh. If you're like me, you'll think it's slightly underdamped and too soft even! But for the street, the added compliance is welcome as midcorner bumps can REALLY upset the balance of a car if it is too stiff.

I'm still looking at the Eibach Sways, but considering I barely drive the car anymore, it's a bit hard to justify it. Heck, I work 150ft from my house and put about 2-3k miles on my car a year.

My alignment with the stock camber bolts set at full neg up front came out at -0.7 and the rear about -1.6 or so from memory. I had bought a set of aftermarket camber bolts to try up front, but after fiddling with them for a bit and doing some more research, I decided against using them for safety reasons. If I ever do anything regarding camber, it will be with camber plates. But frankly, on the street, I'm not worried about it.

Overall, I'd recommend these big time. I run mine +5mm from the center position to compensate for my 2 kids that are about 75lbs each. That makes the car look nice and level with the family in it, and allows for some squat with my 374lb ft tq my car has at the wheels. =)
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Had this setup for 15 months now. Really liking it, but still haven't done the sways yet. I bought mine used on here from a forum member who stated they came with STI top hats and were assembled. Well, they clunked around quite a bit even though I could find nothing. So after eliminating the possibilities, I removed the susp a few days later and re-installed with my stock 2010 WRX top-hats and problem solved! The also had the ride height a bit higher with the STI hats, and I think the spring was just achieving free length over bumps on rebound causing a little clunking. The OEM top hats solved that like i said, and brought the ride height lower to the advertised drop amount.

Another poster here did mention something about the '09 up top hats being the same part as the STI? I never verified that. But, sounds good to me.

As far as the comfort, have no worries even with the yellow springs...it's FINE. You will NEVER think this setup is too harsh. If you're like me, you'll think it's slightly underdamped and too soft even! But for the street, the added compliance is welcome as midcorner bumps can REALLY upset the balance of a car if it is too stiff.

I'm still looking at the Eibach Sways, but considering I barely drive the car anymore, it's a bit hard to justify it. Heck, I work 150ft from my house and put about 2-3k miles on my car a year.

My alignment with the stock camber bolts set at full neg up front came out at -0.7 and the rear about -1.6 or so from memory. I had bought a set of aftermarket camber bolts to try up front, but after fiddling with them for a bit and doing some more research, I decided against using them for safety reasons. If I ever do anything regarding camber, it will be with camber plates. But frankly, on the street, I'm not worried about it.

Overall, I'd recommend these big time. I run mine +5mm from the center position to compensate for my 2 kids that are about 75lbs each. That makes the car look nice and level with the family in it, and allows for some squat with my 374lb ft tq my car has at the wheels. =)
Awesome! Good little review. I'll be putting this setup on at the end of the month and will report back. No swaybars yet either but I probably will get them eventually.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:54 PM   #69
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As I said I put this setup on the car back around Easter, about 1 month ago. Since then I've continued to daily drive the car roughly 30mins to work, as well as 3 autocross events and a few mountain runs. Also, a couple extended drives (4hrs+). I had the good guys at Andrewtech align the car and I got -2 degrees camber up front and something like -1.6 in the rear. I got this set used and the seller said they were the ones off an 09-10 WRX so they would still bolt on and give a little bit extra static camber I think. The camber bolts and tophats are stock ('11 WRX). I don't remember my caster numbers but I was told they were pretty decent. I think over 5 degrees?

For the spirited driving and autoX this setup has been a great upgrade! I'm not sure how much was the alignment vs the new parts but I'm sure they both helped immensely. There seems to be much less body roll and my front tires aren't rolling over on themselves nearly as much as before. I'm hoping this helps extend my tire life as I do plan to autoX quite a lot this year. The car is quick to respond to steering inputs and takes the corners very well. It feels predictable and I now feel that the limiting factor is indeed the driver! I can really tell when I make mistakes now... I don't have any upgraded swaybars but that is something I will most likely do soon. I don't really feel the need for it, but I'd like to see how they compliment everything else.

As for the daily driver duties I'm a little less pleased but also pretty tolerant. I do think the ride is harsh. Make no mistake, it is firm. The extra damping is awesome and I love how it just sucks in the bumps, but the springs are definitely noticeable stiffer. None of my passengers have really complained though and you won't notice it on smoother roads, but what suspension is harsh on a smooth road? I wouldn't say the ride hurts or anything like that, mostly it's just kinda annoying at times (like a slightly droning exhaust). If you live on the east coast where roads are plagued by potholes, cracks, cheap fixes, and uneven sections you will feel it all. Whether or not it bothers you is a different story. I like feeling everything in the road, but there are definitely times where it is unwelcome. Surprisingly, gravel roads aren't nearly as bad as I expected! The quick response can be a little much as well. A slight movement to the wheel translates to a lot more movement on the road than it did before, so it took some getting used to (especially on the highway). I like that though.

If I wasn't doing autoX or anything like that I'd recommend going for the black springs. I went with yellows because I knew the stiffness would be better for those needs and I got an amazing deal on the whole set, so I had no choice It was a pain to install the springs (to me) so there's no way I'm taking it all apart to switch it out, I will live. All in all this is a great setup and I'm very happy with it. I think it makes for a nice upgrade for any DD/weekend warrior car, as long as you can sacrifice a a little comfort.
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I recently installed the Yellow springs and Bilstein setup on my 2013 wrx hatch and really love them. I haven't gotten into autocross yet but really enjoy them for daily driving and enjoying back roads. Some may find them on the harsh side for daily driving but if you like a stiffer ride I think they're perfect.
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Old 05-27-2013, 05:13 PM   #71
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I wanna get springs do i need anythjng else or can i run them on stock
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:39 PM   #72
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I wanna get springs do i need anythjng else or can i run them on stock
blacks are ok on stock struts. yellows not soo much. some other companies i cant comment on. i went with the racecomp cup kit with yellows and racecomp lowering camber plates. its an amazing dd street setup. rides like its on rails now.
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Has anyone tried the rce/bilsteins with the com c tophats?
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does anyone who drives in adverse winter conditions have any complaints with the Yellows on ice or snow? or yellow snow?
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does anyone who drives in adverse winter conditions have any complaints with the Yellows on ice or snow? or yellow snow?
I have yellows paired with konis (not the bilstiens) so I cant speak to this 100%... But I have not had any issues driving in the snow. I went snowboarding pretty much every weekend and had to drive on some pretty snowy roads, and I never had problems. Not even on long, steep, twisty roads. I also have a good set of snow tires that I swap on
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