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Old 10-09-2011, 08:29 PM   #26
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Seems like new car, yet same old problems..
Turbo Subarus need a tune as soon as soon as they roll out of the dealership, as well as frequent oil changes 5-30 should never be used. 93 octane at all times were applicable.
we are sitting on time bombs otherwise.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:26 PM   #27
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Did I miss something? How did they know you were using 5w40?
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:55 PM   #28
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Did I miss something? How did they know you were using 5w40?
He kept oil receipts religiously.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:43 PM   #29
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Why the heck are you running 5w40 anyway?

Automakers are ALL like this. Toyota, Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Kia, Ford, GM.. doesn't matter. They all look for retarded excuses not to authorize repairs. And they all lean HARD on their dealership network to NOT do warranty work.
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:56 PM   #30
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He's running 5w40 because like 12 guys on the internet blew up their heavily modified cars because the stock oil weight wasn't sufficient to protect from bearing failure.


I'd be looking for a leak - possibly secondary air injection or something of the sort.

We've got an 09 Forester (non-turbo) with an EGR valve that caused misfire codes on all 4 cyls, but no codes for the EGR system itself.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:06 PM   #31
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He's running 5w40 because like 12 guys on the internet blew up their heavily modified cars because the stock oil weight wasn't sufficient to protect from bearing failure.


d00000000000000d....you need to wake the **** up and read the blown motor threads

there are 12 a WEEK here.....and many are STOCK cars that spun bearings

this is NOT a fantasy that YOU want it to be....it is a fact
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:12 PM   #32
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its threads like this and the fact that i work with an ex flat rate dealer tech that are going to have my resealing the oil pan on my 7,000 mile 2011 wrx by myself. i know the dealer will either claim its normal or the tech will just use an angle grinder with a scotch brite pad and toss silicone all over the bottom end and likely cause a spun bearing that they will later claim is from abuse. its pathetic and sickening how many dealers and soa handle these simple issues.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:13 PM   #33
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d00000000000000d....you need to wake the **** up and read the blown motor threads

there are 12 a WEEK here.....and many are STOCK cars that spun bearings

this is NOT a fantasy that YOU want it to be....it is a fact
but the owners put the throttle to the floor! thats clearly abuse!
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:13 PM   #34
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How did they know you were using 5w40?
I answered truthfully when they asked because I knew it would come up if they asked for maintenance records (and they did). Plus, if they were to find out that I was withholding that kind of information, it would only lead to speculation about other things I might not be telling them (but that's not the case).

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Why the heck are you running 5w40 anyway?
Well, when I bought the car, 5w-40 was an acceptable weight and based on my research was a better choice than the 5w-30 oils that have a tendency to degrade.
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:26 PM   #35
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d00000000000000d....you need to wake the **** up and read the blown motor threads

there are 12 a WEEK here.....and many are STOCK cars that spun bearings

this is NOT a fantasy that YOU want it to be....it is a fact


Clearly it happens ALL the time... yet there are no current threads about stock unmolested 2.5 turbos with spun bearings?

I think your definition of reality is different than mine. This must be just like all those water pumps failing left and right.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:45 PM   #36
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Well, I have my car back again. The stated source of the problem is the valve clearance. Specifically:

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Found several exhaust valves tight. Spec at .013, actual measurement is .012. Most valves at lower end of specs. Performed teardown and checked valve shims. Ordered as needed.
I'm a little skeptical given that the misfires were on all four cylinders, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:38 PM   #37
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[quote=aserr;35414973]Well, I have my car back again. The stated source of the problem is the valve clearance. Specifically:

Doesn't sound logical to me. Let's see if that fix the problem.
They already mess up saying it's due to oil the first time but obviously it's not. Don't think they know what they are doing.
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:04 PM   #38
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:08 PM   #39
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oh my god! so loosening the valve clearance on a couple cylinders .001" into spec is the solution? (assuming they actually measured correctly) wow! i think i have officially lost the last tiny bit of faith in dealers i had left.
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:13 PM   #40
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are there any mods at all? intake, anything? do you happen to have a tick? timing belt off a tooth?
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:00 AM   #41
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keep us posted OP. i hope your car is fixed, but i would be skeptical to think the codes would be claiming cylinder misfires and all they do is tighten valves 0.001" less lol
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:43 AM   #42
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this whole 'oil issue' is just ****ign ridiculous....bloody, bleeding ****ing out of their ****ing minds

ridiculous

if subaru is telling anybody that using a 5w40 oil will cause CEL's or ANY issue...they need to pull their heads outa their collective ass and FIND THE REAL PROBLEM and not blame the ****ing oil bing used

THAT is just bull****.
I just read this thread and the fact that it took 23 posts for someone to say this is quite disturbing. I would ignore all further advice from this thread.
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:38 PM   #43
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I just read this thread and the fact that it took 23 posts for someone to say this is quite disturbing. I would ignore all further advice from this thread.
Look again.

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Old 10-20-2011, 05:40 PM   #44
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Well, I have my car back again. The stated source of the problem is the valve clearance. Specifically:

I'm a little skeptical given that the misfires were on all four cylinders, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
So are you getting a $110 refund for the oil change? Did you ever contact SoA and open a case? I really would find another dealer.

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Old 10-26-2011, 12:23 PM   #45
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i would get a refund ASAP on the oil change. You should argue that THEIR oil change caused this problem..

And yes, contact SOA .
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Old 10-26-2011, 01:03 PM   #46
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oh my god! so loosening the valve clearance on a couple cylinders .001" into spec is the solution? (assuming they actually measured correctly) wow! i think i have officially lost the last tiny bit of faith in dealers i had left.
I recall an old misfire thread where a valve adjustment fixed the issue...
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Old 10-26-2011, 01:45 PM   #47
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Good news is you'll know for sure what the problem was when they fix it, regardless of what we tell you on here.

I've used RT6 on two STis for 100k miles combined and no issues. Both turning excellent UOAs. Not sure how the oil would have caused misfires on all 4 cyl but ok :/

GL OP & keep us posted
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:59 PM   #48
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Is there any update on this. Just curious.
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Old 11-26-2011, 06:53 AM   #49
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Complete BS.. I have never had a car throw a code because of the oil. Unless you ran out of oil..
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As a final update, after about 2000 miles and 3 months, the CEL has not returned and the car idles much more smoothly.

I don't know what else to say, the valve adjustment appears to have solved the problem and despite the cost, I will probably stick with the Subaru branded 5w-30 synthetic for all future oil changes.

With regard to the cost of the oil change charged by the dealer, I'm not going to bother hassling them about it. Not that 100 bucks is chump change, but I have better things to do with my life.
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