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Old 05-10-2013, 10:26 AM   #201
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Wow hell of a project, and quite the turn around but I like it. A useful versatile on or off road truck. curious though on one thing, your engine setup is high rev power but for some off roading you would not want high revs would you?
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:49 PM   #202
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It's not high revs anymoreZ. High compression on some stock sohc 08 heads. Lots of torque. Should set my redline at the stock fozs 6500 or whatever.
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It's not high revs anymoreZ. High compression on some stock sohc 08 heads. Lots of torque. Should set my redline at the stock fozs 6500 or whatever.
Yes that should do it
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:42 AM   #204
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I'll post this first...

2.5" hydraulic Bumpstops with 4" of travel.. Far and away from a block of rubber....



So.. There has been a slight change of plans... What I thought was going to be a nice couple months to use the shop in a house that would never sell turned in to a "the house has an offer and I need to be out by the end of the month".. So, with that said this project is not getting canned but there needs to be a couple changes. I am obviously not going to have time to finish all of this project in the 2 weeks I have before I have to move. So... the plan is to get as many of the parts as I can fabed and swapped in to the Forester I have the runs as I can. I'll be doing the wheels and tires because they are already here, extending the CV axles to the same width as the Baja Foz needs, and I will be making a less burly but comparable set of front upper and lower A-arms. I will be making brackets to convert the stock 05 STi knuckles in the front to work with a double a-arm suspension and I will be extending the rear suspension with some whitline control arms. Custom modded trailing arms and a custom upper control arm using pieces from a damaged set of whiteline control arms. For the suspension I am going to take some stock STi struts and springs (because they are stiffer) and basically turning them into shocks by mounting a Hyme ball joint on the bottom of them and attaching them to the upper arms. I am going to do a 3:2 ratio so I will get a bit more travel but for now its only going to be about 10-11" I'll be making the bumper, fenders, lightbar per the specs of my Baja Foz so I only need to do it once and probably some cool looking flares in the rear. I probably won't have room for the Foz shell to come with me so I will probably have to do the truck conversion to the shell at another location or wait till I have time to do it to the Foz I have. I can build the super arms at the new place and just get another set of the mounting hardware for the Hyme joints and swap over later when I have more time. So this is going to be a balls to the wall quick version of a long travel setup that I can bust out in the fastest amount of time possible.... After that I can go back to working diligently on the actually Baja Foz but the more parts I can swap into my new Foz and get fabed the less parts I have to move and find space for....

So with that said Sunday I got one of the cars I was working on out of the shop and reconfigured the other and got to work.

Got the Front, Tranny, and Rear Crossmembers Extended. 4" Body Lift I guess you'd say. Got the tranny and the shortblock from my dummy engine in there so that I could fab up the front and rear suspension and make sure the driveshaft fit. I'll be taking all the parts out of this as soon as they are finished and swapping them into the other Foz so I am going to make these as much of a bolt on as I can.





So when I ordered all my joints from balistic they send me 12 of these cool water jet cut skulls. No idea what I was going to use them for untill. BAM gussets....



So tonight I will be making the lower A-Arm and working on the rear suspension. I am waiting for a blown set of stock lower knuckle ball joints so I can stick another bolt in them like I did with the race Foz so I won;t be able to finish up the front suspension till I get those.

More to come.

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Old 05-14-2013, 09:15 AM   #205
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Didn't get as much as I wanted to get done last night. I am designing as I go on this one and that always takes time but I have a good battle strategy for toinght so I should have a good update tomorrow morning.

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Old 05-18-2013, 02:50 PM   #206
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"Don't cry people project time attack foz is still a go I am just changing the material its going to be driving on..... "


Yes, the time attack foz is very much still on.

I will assure you this car gets done, Thank you johann for this opportunity.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:07 AM   #207
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Hey all. Well I had a killer weekend in the shop. I got a crap ton of stuff done. Let’s get started.

Started off by finishing the front lower a-arms. Had to make a custom rear arm bracket using the stock rear a-arm point and make it lower. Cut the front Crossmember and used the front stock point and then added a gusseted rear to fit the front Hyme:



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Then I worked on the knuckle. For the lower mount I took a stock ball joint and cut the ***** out of it and welded a grade 8 ¾” x 5” bolt to it for a super stud. For the upper mount I took the ears off a set of blown STi struts and welded a bolt point to the top of it. The nice thing about this is that I can adjust the camber with the upper camber bolt just like you could from the factory so I won’t have to waste time taking off the arm and running the Hymes in and out. Then I worked on the upper a-arm. This is using mount points off the risers of the Crossmember. Nice and sturdy after some gusseting and it makes the kit a complete bolt on with no invasive surgery on the chassis except for some notching of the frames pinch weld.



On Friday I got the call my wheels/ tires were here. Baller! Got some 15x10 -50mm offset (yes negative 50mm) on some 33x12.5x15 Goodyear Wrangler Duratrak tires. Got 5 to have a full size spare. 5.5” of lip and the beadlock is functional if you replace the ring with one that lips over on the tire. I’ll probably won’t upgrade till I actually blow a bead I don’t plan on airing down much. I just think if I jump it might be nice to have it for impact blow-outs…



Next was to test fit. I did all my measurements. I knew what I needed extend the axle out to get the desired amount off travel but once I saw it with the tire on the wheel the spec of my vision really came into prospective.





This is by far the widest Forester in the world. Front wheel base measures out at 86” across from the outside of the tire treads. The first 2 pics kinda show it but this pick really shows the scope of my insanity…



Front flares will be 17” from the top the fender by the hood. I’ll be running the flare into the middle of the front door with some ducting on the side so the door will still open. It’s going to look pretty sweet given the ideas I have floating my head.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:15 AM   #208
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With that done it was game on for the rear. The make issue I had by not going with the truck idea was that I was worried about all the cutting to the rear quarters I would have to do to get the 33” tires to fit. I was totally right and the biggest issue I saw when I got the tires home and stuck one up there was the rear door. So I needed to get the wheel to drop back a bit… So I took the rear Crossmember and ran the front bolt from the stock hole to the extra mount point in the middle where you would put a sub frame lock bolt. This gave me 3” which was perfect because now I can just use a 5-speed driveshaft with my longer 6-speed tranny and I get an additional 3.375” in length. I’ll pick up the .375” with the angle of the center pivot…







Then I made the lower control arms and trailing arms to get an additional 3” of rear spacing so the rear axle angles back a bit but its pretty minimal angle.. Trailing arms is 33.5” long and control arms are 23” long… Upper control arm is made from remnants of a bent set of whiteline control arms and it mounted to the upper hole of the hub. The Coilover will run from the stock strut tower to the trailing arm in front of the knuckle.

Total tally for travel came to 17.50” of front travel and 13.75” of rear travel. It’s not the 22” I was hoping for but that was with a totally different type of suspension system. I think its plenty for now...

While I was finishing up the opposite sides of the suspension parts my buddy Philip (run forester run) stripped my 01 Foz down for the transplant. Once he was done I started by getting the front x-member/ tranny/ and dummy block into the new Foz for its final resting place... My actual engine is waiting for a couple parts to come in before I can assemble it so I put the dummy block in there to locate the tranny so I could finish extending the axles in the new Foz.



Nice lit up pic of front suspension:



Next was to start prepping the new Foz for Coilover action… The first step was to cut out the stock strut towers to make room.



Tonight, I will be making and installing the front Coilovers. If I have enough time I will try and swap the rear suspension over into the new Foz as well... This week after work I will be focusing on finishing the install on the Coilovers and bump stops to I can verify their movement and get them charged. Spring are on order now that I know where they need to sit so they should be getting here this week so this weekend I can set the Foz on the ground under its own weight and check out the ride a bit. I should be getting my parts to finish my engine today so I will be assembling and installing the engine at some point mid week probably. Also I will begin the fab work for making the fenders for fitting these massive tires. Any resemblance to a stock Forester will be gone….

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Old 05-20-2013, 12:19 PM   #209
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So Cool

So are you only using the "race" forester for parts mock-up?
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:48 PM   #210
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Yeah I sold that chassis to a guy thats gonna fix her back up to race foz status. i am kinda thinking since the work I am doing to the race foz chassis is coming to an end and the new foz is going to be getting the attention that I would make a new thread and save this thread for him to finish..

Thoughts? I guess he could easily start his own thread...

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Yeah, it might be better, that way you don't have to sort through pages to find the beginning of the baja foz.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:16 PM   #212
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Yeah... I did on the other forums mainly cuz I was tired of having a build of mine started with stupid Girodisc's name....

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Old 05-20-2013, 04:17 PM   #213
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Since work to the Forester Chassis is at an end and she’s being sold to another capable member whose going to finish her as I intended I am going to shut this thread down for ether him to pick up where I left off or to start his own thread and use this as a back history.

Made a new single thread in member’s gallery. My last build thread for a long time so I had to go out with a bang right? lol

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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...8#post39846818
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Old 05-21-2013, 03:19 AM   #214
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It's like the movie ended without a banger and promises a sequel
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Hello all.

I figure until the time comes for some serious progress, I will use the post johann already has up for the car.

I picked the car up today, and it is now comfortably in the garage

I will give you a little idea of what i am currently trying to accomplish.

First off, I have bought and stripped a OBD2 SVX Engine/full harness. I intend on cutting all the non-functional/Vital components from the harness, and using the stock SVX motor for now. Being OBD2 makes it a lot easier to do so.

The WRX dash and cluster that will be installed in the car will also be merged with the SVX harness with a Tachometer Signal Interface i can adopt it to read the SVX motor speed. I will make a custom bracket that will sit the ECU underneath where the passenger airbag would normally be for easy access and troubleshooting (high and dry!)

Once the SVX's motor is in place. I will have a spare block i will sleeve/build for twin turbo setup, using the stock block as a mockup for the inter-cooler piping and exhaust.
Also at that point i can plan for more serious cooling as well as weight distribution.

Closer to completion i will pick up the Vi-Pec ECU and strip more wires out to make it turbo ready.

Going to do Brembo brakes with slotted rotors all the way around (price for performance, and part availability).

Still deciding on what coilover suspension to go with as well. But i will keep this up to date as changes are made and major progress.

As it will always be johanns and TSS forester. I will constantly be collaborating with william and johann on ideas, and fabrication. We will turn this thing into the monster it wants to be.

I want to thank johann for giving me this opportunity. And the delivery of promised track car will not be disappointing.
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Hello all.

I figure until the time comes for some serious progress, I will use the post johann already has up for the car.

I picked the car up today, and it is now comfortably in the garage

I will give you a little idea of what i am currently trying to accomplish.

First off, I have bought and stripped a OBD2 SVX Engine/full harness. I intend on cutting all the non-functional/Vital components from the harness, and using the stock SVX motor for now. Being OBD2 makes it a lot easier to do so.

The WRX dash and cluster that will be installed in the car will also be merged with the SVX harness with a Tachometer Signal Interface i can adopt it to read the SVX motor speed. I will make a custom bracket that will sit the ECU underneath where the passenger airbag would normally be for easy access and troubleshooting (high and dry!)

Once the SVX's motor is in place. I will have a spare block i will sleeve/build for twin turbo setup, using the stock block as a mockup for the inter-cooler piping and exhaust.
Also at that point i can plan for more serious cooling as well as weight distribution.

Closer to completion i will pick up the Vi-Pec ECU and strip more wires out to make it turbo ready.

Going to do Brembo brakes with slotted rotors all the way around (price for performance, and part availability).

Still deciding on what coilover suspension to go with as well. But i will keep this up to date as changes are made and major progress.

As it will always be johanns and TSS forester. I will constantly be collaborating with william and johann on ideas, and fabrication. We will turn this thing into the monster it wants to be.

I want to thank johann for giving me this opportunity. And the delivery of promised track car will not be disappointing.
Wow, very interesting ideas.
couple of questions, at first your plan is to use stock svx ecu? The obd2 ecu will throw a code for transmission if its not seeing the 4eat. I am curious have you got any plans on that?
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Wow, very interesting ideas.
couple of questions, at first your plan is to use stock svx ecu? The obd2 ecu will throw a code for transmission if its not seeing the 4eat. I am curious have you got any plans on that?

At first, yes. The stock SVX ECU will be used to run the motor, we can use it to setup suspension properly and test brake system optimize the setup, before adding more power.

My solution to the code on the transmission will be to pull the check engine light bulb.

Of course until we get the Vipec unit.

I will run codes every so often, rather than rely on the check engine light.
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At first, yes. The stock SVX ECU will be used to run the motor, we can use it to setup suspension properly and test brake system optimize the setup, before adding more power.

My solution to the code on the transmission will be to pull the check engine light bulb.

Of course until we get the Vipec unit.

I will run codes every so often, rather than rely on the check engine light.

Good solution. Might not work for every one but it will work temporarily
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The great thing about track cars i suppose.

Though i am sure there is a way to bypass it on OBD1 but not on OBD2.

with intentions on turbo, the stock ECU would not be ideal.

Vipec will fix a lot of the issues i will encounter after the swap is complete ECU related.
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Ok, so here is an update.

I bought a 1997 SVX, pulled the motor and wiring.

Currently getting new coilovers, and msc parts to finish the car off.

i received the car like so;



With the engine just sitting in.




Next plan, wiring and removing all the BS from the svx motor.

More to come.
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Looks good.

Good Luck.
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Any updates?? It's been over 3 1/2 months since the last post.

Also, what year was the original ForeSTAR? The front grill looks like a 2002, but I'm not sure.
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so i have a 2005 subaru forester and the engine blew. does anyone know any place around the bay area that could do a swap for a low mile engine? please help
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so i have a 2005 subaru forester and the engine blew. does anyone know any place around the bay area that could do a swap for a low mile engine? please help
Bring it down to socal, ill swap in a dhort or long block of choice. Go fo the ej255 shortblock and reuse stock heads
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