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View Poll Results: STi's only (cars under 50K miles) - please select one - note octane rating
MY 2009 - 2011 STi's - 93 octane - Stock with Ringland Failure 2 4.65%
MY 2009 - 2011 STi's - 93 octane - Stage 2 or less with Ringland Failure 5 11.63%
MY 2009 - 2011 STi's - 93 octane - Stock with NO Ringland Failure 11 25.58%
MY 2009 - 2011 STi's - 93 octane - Stage 2 or less with NO Ringland Failure 12 27.91%
MY 2009 - 2011 STi's - 91 octane - Stock with Ringland Failure 3 6.98%
MY 2009 - 2011 STi's - 91 octane - Stage 2 or less with Ringland Failure 2 4.65%
MY 2009 - 2011 STi's - 91 octane - Stock with NO Ringland Failure 2 4.65%
MY 2009 - 2011 STi's - 91 octane - Stage 2 or less with NO Ringland Failure 6 13.95%
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Old 11-03-2011, 03:06 PM   #1
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Default Ringland Failure Poll for MY 2009-2011 STi's

OK, I've finally get an 2011 STi after two other MY WRX's and I've been reading about the stock tune and ringland failure. Not seeing any poll on the subject I'd thought I'd post this up to see how expansive this problem really is or is it happening to a small minority and just getting blown out of proportion as forums tend to do to some times.

this is my first poll, so if its not good, sorry, I'll do better next time.
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:41 PM   #2
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I'm only at 2800 miles, so I'll wait to vote for a bit. BUT my opinion is most are modified/abuse failures.

I'm not worried, I'll continue to drive my STI as I seem fit. It is stock and plan on keeping it that way (other than winter tires).
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:45 PM   #3
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I'm only at 2800 miles, so I'll wait to vote for a bit. BUT my opinion is most are modified/abuse failures.
I hope so, but I've read many posts that say they were stock and didn't abuse their car, but you never know who's lying or not I suppose.

Of course on an enthusiasts forum you are bound to get more issues put forward in an inordinate amount in one direction or another, that's why I want to get a poll going, just to see what the real extent is.

Unfortunately, unless everybody posts the info wont be of much use, but its worth a try I suppose.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:05 PM   #4
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Only 1,800 miles but no issues yet.
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:59 AM   #5
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Dont know about the STIS but I know I have personally seen two bone stock 08 wrxs fail with very low mileage.
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:06 AM   #6
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2011 sti 5300 miles no issues
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:34 PM   #7
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:10 PM   #8
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shouldnt it be 08-11?
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:34 PM   #9
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Who's got the stock failure?
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:05 AM   #10
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I have 2010 STi with 29,500 miles and just went Stage 2. No issues yet.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:23 PM   #11
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shouldnt it be 08-11?
They switched turbos on the 09's.
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:39 PM   #12
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Apparently, I don't have enough posts to vote yet. I have a MY2011 STi with Stage 2 running 93 octane. No failure as of yet.
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:44 PM   #13
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Apparently, I don't have enough posts to vote yet. I have a MY2011 STi with Stage 2 running 93 octane. No failure as of yet.
how many miles
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:09 PM   #14
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based off the poll it seems that most issues occur with 93 octane. that to me is weird why would a higher octane gas cause more problems?
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based off the poll it seems that most issues occur with 93 octane. that to me is weird why would a higher octane gas cause more problems?
Abuse.
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:54 PM   #16
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based off the poll it seems that most issues occur with 93 octane. that to me is weird why would a higher octane gas cause more problems?
because 93 is more avalible across the US. when you have more of something vs something else, then chances are the out come will favor the higher percentage.

and its not abuse people. while there are a ton of people out there with no brains and no clue what there doing with these cars, id say at least 9 out of 10 of us aren't dumb enough to just beat the hell out of something and break it. specially the STI. STI people with 30-40k dont just buy one and try to break it. id venture a guess and say most are scared and dont want anything to happen and baby the piss out of it.

why they break then? poor cast pistons along with a horrible tune! when these motors run lean (and they do it a lot with the time delay from closed to open loop setting) and start knocking which they hate, timing is pulled but fuel is not increased!

run'em stock, blow'em up! your couldnt pay me to drive one stock and have it look like this!

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Old 11-07-2011, 12:27 AM   #17
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I would never buy a GR STi because of that graph above alone.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:40 AM   #18
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The reason I made this post was to see just what the real extent of the problem is. Are we talking 1% or 10% or 30% of cars here. Unfortuneately I dont think Im going to get enough of a cross section.

I have an AP and Im thinking of going Stage 1 but on 91 octane but use 93 octane to be safe. I need to call Cobb and have a discussion with them before I do.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:46 AM   #19
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7800 miles stage 1 tune(~3500 miles on the tune) on a 2011 STI and no problems yet. I think im just getting to the point where i dont burn oil between changes. I do know that the STG1 tune feels so much smoother than the factory tune, and not to mention stronger. Always on 93, and Shell when i can find it reasonably.
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run'em stock, blow'em up! your couldnt pay me to drive one stock and have it look like this!
[graph]
I don't believe that graph of the stock '11. Mine definitely does not drop that much power @ 5500 rpms. At ~4000 rpm, I can feel the dip, but consistent pull after that.

As I've said before, If I was trying to sell tunes, I'd make the graph look like that too.
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I don't believe that graph of the stock '11. Mine definitely does not drop that much power @ 5500 rpms. At ~4000 rpm, I can feel the dip, but consistent pull after that.

As I've said before, If I was trying to sell tunes, I'd make the graph look like that too.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ti+2011+wicked

See the initial dyno graph in that thread. That is a local Subaru specific tuning shop that did my STI. It looks almost identical to the Cobb baseline, and many other tuners say that they "cringe when the owner asks to get a baseline dyno" because its not safe. You also have to remember that Dyno graphs are the WORST CASE situation for power production. There is very little air moving across all engine parts, intercoolers, radiatiors compared to driving normally, so the engine very well could react a bit differently on a dyno than on the street.

If you look at the AFR, the car runs OFF THE CHART past 4200rpm. Not that it runs that rock solid, but that the WB02 cant read that low.
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Old 11-07-2011, 12:53 PM   #22
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'11 STI
Stage 1 + SF 93 octane
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:05 PM   #23
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I havent had an '11 come in yet with ringland failure, but have had plenty of 09+s the last few years.

heres a nother wonderful stock '11 STi dyno



2 knock events and some terrible AFR. was able to pick up 33 percent more whp and 36 percent more wtq, flatten out he fueling and elimantea the kock events with just a tune.

haha i just sw your post b1aze, believe me every 11 ive had through here has been the same. you can look ath the factory mapping and see it for yourself if you dont believe.

here is another graph of a factory 11
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^The last graph I can believe.
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They switched turbos on the 09's.
This poll is about STIs.
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