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Old 06-17-2011, 01:05 PM   #1
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Default All 2.5L block owners beware........

read up on this here(nasioc) and was really shocked.
made a decision to replace mine, finally broke down and shelled out $180 for the sturdy AM pick up tube.
to my disbelief, my oem pick up tube had a crack forming!
there is only 35k miles on my MY05 2.5L

every failure i read about.......the only warning you get is 2 flashes of your oil pressure light, and your DONE. your oil starved engine is toast.

want everyone in TXIC to be aware of this problem to avoid $5k on a $36 OEM part.

here are pix and some explanations

http://www.killerbmotorsport.com/ind...ickupStory.htm

my pix will be posted soon!
(thanks van)
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:08 PM   #2
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thanks for the warning
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:09 PM   #3
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How big of a job is it to replace one of these?
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:11 PM   #4
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Sounds like recall material.
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:13 PM   #5
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Thanks for posting this..I have heard of this being an issue a few times but never have read much about it.

Is this the part that the 08's had the recall on in which they added a support bracket? or was that something different?
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:19 PM   #6
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How big of a job is it to replace one of these?
not too bad.........
remove intercooler(tmic)
remove dog-bone upr mount(mine was cracked....in the pix too)
place car on jack stands
un bolt(not remove) sway bar
un bolt both lwr motor mount nuts
remove oil
jack up motor by oil pan
remove oil pan
install the new pick up(perfect fit BTW)
jack up motor by tranny
install oil pan
reverse......

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Sounds like recall material.
everything i have read, subaru refuses to acknowledge there is a problem
many accnts of warrenty payment of new short blocks(if under warrenty)
its just plain scary
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:22 PM   #7
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Thanks for posting this..I have heard of this being an issue a few times but never have read much about it.

Is this the part that the 08's had the recall on in which they added a support bracket? or was that something different?

dont know for sure, but i bought a new oem part in 2010 and it still only had one bracket.
(killerb advises to replace oe part every 30k if you dont buy his)
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:44 PM   #8
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sounds like a ploy, the killer B pickup price went up by 100% since i last checked
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:05 PM   #9
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Thanks for posting this..I have heard of this being an issue a few times but never have read much about it.

Is this the part that the 08's had the recall on in which they added a support bracket? or was that something different?

No, the recall and bracket was for the oil line on the turbo.
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:13 PM   #10
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No, the recall and bracket was for the oil line on the turbo.
Thanks! I feel silly for asking..after looking for the albums it was pretty obvious
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:21 PM   #11
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sounds like a ploy, the killer B pickup price went up by 100% since i last checked

I wonder? Never heard of it on the 2.0's but they have them listed. So far I have been ok in my 2002.
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:39 PM   #12
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one our regular customers had a motor pop due to this. exactly as ali described: pressure light flashed and then done. subaru ended up covering it for him.
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:01 PM   #13
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I just recently changed mine just because. This came off my legacy GT with 67k on the odometer. The amount of heat your pickup is seeing is nothing short of ridiculous and is more than obvious on the pickup. Truthfully, I'm surprised these don't fail sooner and far more often.



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Old 06-17-2011, 03:09 PM   #14
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cant wait till my pix are posted to show you guys..i got like 6 or 7 quality res pix
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:19 PM   #15
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sounds like a ploy, the killer B pickup price went up by 100% since i last checked

???

actually went down(more units sold = price lower)
when i first started reading about these failures the price was $275
is now listed on his website for $209
i bought mine from fred bean for $168 last week

there are other AM pick up tubes out there but the quality was nothing like killerb........one of the AM models was a dis-assmebled a OE tube and then the vendor re-welded everything back together with a thicker tube. this one was $40 cheaper than killerb. for my engine's security why fk around?
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:31 PM   #16
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???

actually went down(more units sold = price lower)
when i first started reading about these failures the price was $275
is now listed on his website for $209
i bought mine from fred bean for $168 last week

there are other AM pick up tubes out there but the quality was nothing like killerb........one of the AM models was a dis-assmebled a OE tube and then the vendor re-welded everything back together with a thicker tube. this one was $40 cheaper than killerb. for my engine's security why fk around?
thanks for the research. I was going to the dealer today to pickup a factory Pickup for my hybrid but it looks like im ordering this puppy instead. . .
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:35 PM   #17
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Yea, this is a no brainer, there is a stupid company out there selling an upgraded stock one for 200 bucks and the killer b one is alot cheaper.
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:47 PM   #18
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I wonder? Never heard of it on the 2.0's but they have them listed. So far I have been ok in my 2002.
same here, are the pickups for the 2.0L and 2.5L different? i know they have different oil pans
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:03 PM   #19
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^^^check out that link i posted........shows the differences

in short, i dont think the 2.0L has such a large amt of failures as the 2.5L.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:20 PM   #20
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Hey all,

Here are the photos AliBenn took about the oil pick up tube:











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Old 06-17-2011, 05:06 PM   #21
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thanks van!

see the quality of the welds on the AM p/u tube?
that crack edge can be felt with your finger nail fur sure.

damn that cup of chardonney looks delicious.
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:28 PM   #22
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This has me a little freaked out. Thanks for the info.
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:09 AM   #23
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Oh yeah. I bought my KillerB for this reason specifically.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:33 AM   #24
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How the heck are you just NOW finding this out?

This is why you people need to leave TXIC once in a while.

The oil pickup tube failures have been a well known problem for close to 6 years. The fact that you didn't know it already is just mind boggling.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:45 AM   #25
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How the heck are you just NOW finding this out?

This is why you people need to leave TXIC once in a while.

The oil pickup tube failures have been a well known problem for close to 6 years. The fact that you didn't know it already is just mind boggling.
No kidding.


Here is a quick link to the how-to w/pictures http://www.killerbmotorsport.com/ind...structions.htm
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