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Old 07-15-2013, 01:07 PM   #726
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Its gotta be better than that

I ran a 2.1 / 7.8 and ran 11.57@128
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:08 PM   #727
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Just an estimate. They have the conversion tables all over the net but they don't take into account your launch.
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:03 PM   #728
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Yepp will do Kelly. I posted from my phone.

I didn't think about that. Wonder if the OEM shifter would be better than the short throw?

Any speculations on what the 1.85 / 7.4 1/8th would do in 1/4?
Nice job BTW!

If the short throw of the Kartboy is giving you fits on the 2-3 shift you might want to pick up a Torque Solutions shifter extension, http://www.torquesolution.com/product-p/ts-uni-011.htm. I've got one that Angel gave me and I had an extra white Killer B knob that Chris gave me, that I threw on it. I've played with it some but have not driven with it much, I think it might help you!

It's cheaper and less hassle then changing shifters and I can't imagine your Kartboy is loose or sloppy, it's probably too close and notchy with the bushings and all.

I would think that with the 101 1/8 trap that you might be low 130's in the 1/4 and around high 10's, I'd be stoked with that! Especially if you get the 60 down to 1.60's. What's happening off the line are you spinning hard or bogging down? What's your launch rpm's?

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Old 07-15-2013, 03:16 PM   #729
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I can't drive is the problem Haha. I was taking too long to get off the clutch (never smelled it though).
Yeah it is quite notchy I do have to say. The extra length would be nice for track days due to added torque from the length but.

I think it would have been close to high 10s. ... oh well always next time.
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:48 PM   #730
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Yeah I'd order one, it's a cheap fix if it works. You can shorten them if you like, you'd just have to cut and chase the female threads a bit deeper. What rpm are you launching at and how much boost are you making on LC?
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:05 PM   #731
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For some reason, I could grind the 3-4 shift, but my 2-3 was always pretty decent. The 3-4 'grind' drove me nuts.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:12 PM   #732
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I can single "pop" the 3/4 shift Lol. Its my only good one.

Launching at appx 5100 with 8psi boost on street tires.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:57 PM   #733
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Did you log the runs? I'd like to see boost recovery with FFS going. Its probably insta-boost after shifts.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:22 PM   #734
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I'm pretty slow but I did log them. I'll post shortly
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:29 PM   #735
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I can single "pop" the 3/4 shift Lol. Its my only good one.

Launching at appx 5100 with 8psi boost on street tires.
I'd try 6000-6500 LC and 6800-7200 FFS.

I was finding that 6000 was pretty good with little bog down but I'm gonna try 6200 now with the axles and stuff. Upon clutch dump/ 6k it dropped to 5500 and made 15-18 psi boost in first. That was on dry asphalt in the video I made launching. I have not had it on a track through so it'll probably change, LC I mean with the surface change.

Edit: I just looked at a log I ran that day. It went from 15-18 psi at clutch dump and 5500 to 26-27 psi at 5900 and held 24-25psi at 7500 before the 1-2 shift.

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I just did what JR Suggested for street tires. He knew I was on street tires and suggested 8PSI, I dont have enough experience to dispute what worked and what didn't

I had Tire pressures of 22F/19R running 255/40/18 KDW2s

Here is a log screen shot. Peak boost of about 27.5 and dipping to 23ish. I think this was the 11.57s pass posted above.

I was shifting at 7300 ish
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The only thing I can adjust is launch rpm with my AP and tire pressure. Junior mentioned a track map and I'll talk with him about that next Monday when he retunes for the ID1300's, I'm not sure what he's got up his sleeve but he mentioned something about picking up ground on the back half.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:52 PM   #738
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Yeah he did an on the fly track map for Darius Haha. It was my power vcard at the track so I'll take it and run with it.

I think I'm going to lower boost and learn how to drive my car the next time I'm at the track.
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:08 PM   #739
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yeah that's pretty damn cool what you can do, log and graph....you guys and your fancy computers!
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Yeah he did an on the fly track map for Darius Haha. It was my power vcard at the track so I'll take it and run with it.

I think I'm going to lower boost and learn how to drive my car the next time I'm at the track.
Why lower boost are you spinning through gear changes? Needing traction?
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:17 PM   #741
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I need a slower car to build my shifting abilities
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:25 PM   #742
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That's awesome! Your car is running well then, 11.5/ 128 with a 2.1 60'! What was the 1/8 trap?

You just need to go find some desolate Podunk road between Cadillac and Cedar that you can practice on! I know a few of them in that area
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:25 AM   #743
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Ha yeah I know a few too. It was 101/102 In the 1/8th. Best ET was the 7.4 posted above
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Car swap for a week ???
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^^^

Good idea!
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:29 AM   #746
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As good as that sounds Darius... I might as well kinda key people in to what's been going on the last 72 hrs.

Driving home from the track Saturday, I pulled into a gas station half way home to fill up on E85. When I was getting off the freeway a rattle really started making a ruckus. Gas station was 1/4 mile off freeway so I coasted into the station and shut car off.Checked oil, looked fine.

So I had my buddy with me start the car up to see if I could see where the noise was and it was not pleasant, car was on for 3-4 seconds.

Car was too fricken hot to do much of anything on it, so I decided to push it to the main parking lot adjacent to the gas station and my boss who lives 3 miles away let me take his truck home. Left the car there Sunday

Yesterday I went and loaded the car... for power line construction we use chain hoists to bring up the wire tension so that's how the car got put on the trailer ( no winch)

Got car home, started reefing on exhaust and drained the oil. Didn't see anything jumping out at me, oil looked fine and no rattles when shaking things.

Pulled a single plug and it looked too clean. My gut feeling was this, as the wideband was acting goofy on the trip home. Idling fine and going under 15mph it was fine. Anything over that it said full lean. If I put it on neutral while cruising, it would stay lean. Buddy who was riding with me said his did the same thing on his Supercharged Tacoma right before the sensor died. A quick Google suggested the same thing... though mine when dying have said 14.8 all the time.

So... that leads me to where I'm going to be at tonight. Compression and leak down test.

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Old 07-16-2013, 12:04 PM   #747
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Hey buddy, I hope all is well with it!! Keep us posted and let me know if I can be of any help.
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Yepp will do man. I was going to try to diagnose 100% before I made any announcement but bah is what it is.

Thanks though - I appreciate it.
If its effed, going to go a fuzz bigger for some extra "breathing room" 6266 or may 64. Jr and I will work that out, but I want to use my existing hardware I have to keep rebuild and fab times down... still want to do suspension mods this winter.

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Old 07-16-2013, 01:19 PM   #749
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At least you got low 11s before something happened. Hopefully its not as bad as you think and you'll be back on the road in no time.
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Well... results are in. Sort of.

Motor is cold and I was doing some video watching and it has to be warm. So while my battery is on the charger this is what I have.

1 - 120psi
2 - 90psi
3 - haven't checked
4 - 88psi

I have my heat gun on low blowing on the oil pan so it can warm up the motor... I can't think of anything else I can do to make the test more accurate.

Anyone have ideas????
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