Thoughts on Subaru's BRZ RWD - Page 6

granny · 12-01-2011, 04:50 PM

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Carter · 12-01-2011, 04:58 PM

2011 Mazda MX5 : 2,410 @ 170 hp gives 14.17 lbs/hp

2013 BRZ : 2,690 pounds @ est. 200 hp gives 13.45 lbs/hp

2012 STI Sedan : 3,384 pounds @ 305 hp gives 11.09 lbs/hp

2012 Evo X : 3,517 pounds @ 295 hp gives 11.92 lbs/hp

2005 Ferrari F360: 2,976 @ 400 hp gives 7.44 lbs/hp

1993 Carter rally car : ~2,500 @ ~350 hp gives 7.14 lbs/hp

Marlons101 · 12-01-2011, 05:02 PM

Are those real figures? Im no math wiz but I'm tempted to bust out a calc...

chanomatik · 12-01-2011, 05:03 PM

Not liking this bit of info if it IS true:

Quote:

With the BRZ’s first show, Subaru released extensive technical and feature information for the model, which, officials say, will start in the vicinity of the STI’s base $34,095 (for 2012)—or slightly lower.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ls-live-photos

Akrexak · 12-01-2011, 11:19 PM

DDDaaamnnn. At that price I will be looking more into the 2012 STi again.

EDIT: I dont think the author knows what they are talking about. I think that price is for what they predict the price for the STi version is going to be.

Dominator · 12-02-2011, 04:08 PM

Here's some pics of the "Because Racecar" version of the BRZ.

This particular version is for the Japanese GT300 SuperGT circuit.

Credit where it's due: http://www.motormavens.com/2011/11/w...yo-motor-show/

P3Auto · 12-05-2011, 02:55 PM

What we want to see is the direct fuel injection system in the BRZ used on turbocharged Subaru motors. Direct injection opens up a lot of power in the tuning area especially with the low octane we have. The cars we have been tuning that have this sort of fuel delivery systems can be run leaner and meaner and with more timing.

I have no doubt that an STI type setup in some shape or form will use one of these fuel delivery systems in the next two years.

Alaskan EJ20 · 12-05-2011, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter

2011 Mazda MX5 : 2,410 @ 170 hp gives 14.17 lbs/hp

2013 BRZ : 2,690 pounds @ est. 200 hp gives 13.45 lbs/hp

2012 STI Sedan : 3,384 pounds @ 305 hp gives 11.09 lbs/hp

2012 Evo X : 3,517 pounds @ 295 hp gives 11.92 lbs/hp

2005 Ferrari F360: 2,976 @ 400 hp gives 7.44 lbs/hp

1993 Carter rally car : ~2,500 @ ~350 hp gives 7.14 lbs/hp

2002 Lutz bugeye: 24psi ~2,800 lbs @ ~440 hp gives 6.36 lbs/hp
2002 Lutz bugeye: 27psi ~2,800 lbs @ ~470 hp gives 5.95 lbs/hp

chanomatik · 12-05-2011, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOMIN8R

Here's some pics of the "Because Racecar" version of the BRZ.

This particular version is for the Japanese GT300 SuperGT circuit.

Credit where it's due: http://www.motormavens.com/2011/11/w...yo-motor-show/

You HAVE to watch this video. It's absolutely gorgeous.

Subaru BRZ GT300 Hits the Track - YouTube

Alaskan EJ20 · 12-05-2011, 03:52 PM

^^ wicked nasty

LiLpNoY · 12-27-2011, 06:04 AM

Subaru AWD commercial - YouTube

Found this over on iwsti! freaking epic!

insane_one · 12-27-2011, 02:33 PM

Lol ^^

chanomatik · 12-27-2011, 03:00 PM

"...Unless it's a 2-door coupe, which failed as an AWD vehicle before."

KapaFool · 01-03-2012, 03:48 AM

Who did they make the BRZ for? Thats a great car if you want to keep up with a Camry. Hey at least you will look good driving it. If you want a slow car then get a Veloster. Its cheaper.

Lrn2Corner · 01-03-2012, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KapaFool

Who did they make the BRZ for? Thats a great car if you want to keep up with a Camry. Hey at least you will look good driving it. If you want a slow car then get a Veloster. Its cheaper.

The car is geared towards enthusiasts that enjoy cars that handle well and are fun to toss around the twisties. think MR-S, Elise, Exige, Miata and so on. Not every car on the market is geared towards quarter mile fanboys.

It's weight is the biggest drawback after they said it would be 2500 LBS it turns out to be 2700 LBS. Dont know how they managed to bork it by 200 LBS but honestly I wouldnt buy one unless the weight came down some.

Actually I wouldn't buy the BRZ because the FR-S looks so much better. Digging that lil LFA look.

KapaFool · 01-05-2012, 12:34 AM

I guess the support for low horsepower handling machines are there. Thats why affordable handling machines like the RX-8 and MR-S are still around. OK theres still the Miata.

bjcarter2 · 01-06-2012, 11:16 PM

Hot, Hot, Hot, Hot, Hot!!!

I rickey!!!

Dominator · 02-07-2012, 02:04 PM

I haven't been watching the national BRZ threads as it's just a bunch of "not AWD" and "not Turbo" complaining. Anyway, I stumbled on this and thought it was pretty hot looking. Check it out. This is going to be a fun little car. I can't wait til I can get a used one in a few years.

Mavrik · 02-07-2012, 09:13 PM

unless I go visit a dealership with one on the lot, I doubt Conti is going to get to many... if any that are not pre-ordered. I'll probably have to order one myself and unlikely get to test drive one first. maybe a trip to the lower 48... buy one and drive it back... ah yes road trip.

chanomatik · 02-07-2012, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrik

unless I go visit a dealership with one on the lot, I doubt Conti is going to get to many... if any that are not pre-ordered. I'll probably have to order one myself and unlikely get to test drive one first. maybe a trip to the lower 48... buy one and drive it back... ah yes road trip.

"You stole my story."

LiLpNoY · 02-07-2012, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chanomatik

"You stole my story."

I'm gonna wait for chano to buy one, so I can buy it off him

chanomatik · 02-07-2012, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiLpNoY

I'm gonna wait for chano to buy one, so I can buy it off him

Hey... Either this is deja vu or you've used that joke before...

If I fell in love with a test drive then I would seriously buy a super cheap Subaru beater for the winter and get the BRZ. I'm way more into the idea of modifying my car cosmetically instead of trying to figure out how to balance the flow of power from my turbocharged WRX. At least the BRZ comes balanced with 200HP and purpose-built handling. I would store it in the winter so that it wouldn't get banged up.

I would also consider trading in for the new model WRX/STI since they will be purpose-built as well instead of modified Imprezas. Subaru is gonna get hot pretty soon here, ya'll.

Considering that the Tribeca is dying off, I'm curious about the future line-up.

LiLpNoY · 02-08-2012, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Hey... Either this is deja vu or you've used that joke before...

If I fell in love with a test drive then I would seriously buy a super cheap Subaru beater for the winter and get the BRZ. I'm way more into the idea of modifying my car cosmetically instead of trying to figure out how to balance the flow of power from my turbocharged WRX. At least the BRZ comes balanced with 200HP and purpose-built handling. I would store it in the winter so that it wouldn't get banged up.

I would also consider trading in for the new model WRX/STI since they will be purpose-built as well instead of modified Imprezas. Subaru is gonna get hot pretty soon here, ya'll.

Considering that the Tribeca is dying off, I'm curious about the future line-up.

Lol, damn your right, but it was mike who told it. My bads.
I hear they gonna mix the highlander and tribeca lines.

chanomatik · 02-08-2012, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiLpNoY

Lol, damn your right, but it was mike who told it. My bads.
I hear they gonna mix the highlander and tribeca lines.

haha It's a good joke! That's why I call myself The Importer. I bring cars up and sell 'em.

I really wanted to like the Tribeca. I think they could've focused on it a bit more and made something awesome! A bit more power to justify the underwhelming mileage or make the mileage better. A tiny bit more room for the 3rd row would've been welcomed, too, with an increase in cargo room. Heck, even a 6-speed would've been nice! Could you imagine a Tribeca with a 6-speed manual or automatic mated to a 300+HP STI engine or 300+HP 6-cylinder Boxer?

People are screaming for a Subaru minivan, though. haha A Highlander hybrid would be welcomed. I guess the biggest issue they're having is space to build these things.

LiLpNoY · 02-08-2012, 01:06 AM

We are seriously considering trading in the Tribeca for a honda pilot. If thay had the right color at Conti, we would have bought one back in November. I try to stay from honda these days to resist the tempation.

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12-01-2011, 11:19 PM	#130
Akrexak Scooby Specialist Member#: 100607 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Anchorage, AK Vehicle: 2007 Black swirl STi '11 Forester Touring-Hers	DDDaaamnnn. At that price I will be looking more into the 2012 STi again. EDIT: I dont think the author knows what they are talking about. I think that price is for what they predict the price for the STi version is going to be. Last edited by Akrexak; 12-01-2011 at 11:24 PM.

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