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Old 03-15-2012, 05:51 PM   #151
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^^Yes I meant virtual dyno after my road tune. I don't have the curve to post yet as I'm waiting for my tuner to get back and email it to me. If I remember right, the numbers were 360wtq at 3800-3900 and 351whp at ??. The virtual dyno software reads similar to a Mustang dyno.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:20 PM   #152
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^those are nice numbers, can you measure 0-60 & 1/4 using your AP2? If available? thx
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:24 PM   #153
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^^ I don't have an AP. I'll be going to the track soon enough to find out how much my 1/4 improved.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:35 PM   #154
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^^ I don't have an AP. I'll be going to the track soon enough to find out how much my 1/4 improved.

what turbo did you have before? thats still 1k later spool vs a vf39/similar turbo.. i am debating between 18gxt and 20gxt and since my car is 90% city driven i cant seem to give up the spool for high end power
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:37 PM   #155
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^^ I wouldn't say 1k later spool. The stock VF didn't hit peak torque at 2800. I'm telling you the slight loss in spool between the 18 and the 20 is worth the power potential of the 20. The 20 feels perfect for the 2.5.

My car is a street beast. Just get the 20G with an 8cm2 hotside and stick with a quality TMIC and you'll be very happy during DD duty... trust me.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:14 PM   #156
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I'm loving the ETS TMIC. That and the Process West are the only two aftermarket TMICs I would ever use.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:52 AM   #157
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Yup, I love my Process West.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:08 AM   #158
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1.5dom spools at 3600 with dual avcs grb heads, So 18gtx is a smaller turbo with the same Garrett Ball bearing CHRA
So it have to spool at least at 3300-3400.

I've seen couple times in other topics that somebody already bought 18gtx and is going to setup it nearest time, so where are you people???
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:18 AM   #159
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:21 AM   #160
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so far what I am reading is the best for a 2.5L is a 20G-XT or 20G-XTR as the higher rpm spool vs 18G/VF is not that big of a deal, so I am pretty much set on a 20G, but now it appears the 1.5G-XTR spool is comparable to 20G so agghh I am now considering the Dom when I wanted an 18G in the beginning, this is painful.

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Old 03-16-2012, 09:34 AM   #161
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^^ ya gotta just s*&t or get off the pot man. I know its hard but just pick one already. You'll be happy with any of them.
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:09 AM   #162
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I'm loving the ETS TMIC. That and the Process West are the only two aftermarket TMICs I would ever use.
^^ This. We have ETC top-mounts on both of our cars and they are fantastic quality pieces.
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:47 AM   #163
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so far what I am reading is the best for a 2.5L is a 20G-XT or 20G-XTR as the higher rpm spool vs 18G/VF is not that big of a deal, so I am pretty much set on a 20G, but now it appears the 1.5G-XTR spool is comparable to 20G so agghh I am now considering the Dom when I wanted an 18G in the beginning, this is painful.

Dude you're never gonna pick a turbo. It's not that hard of a decision. If its boiling down to 500 rpm or less in spool difference pick the one that makes the most power and be done with it. Anything less will be barely noticed. The differences between these turbos are so close and its time to man up and decide. My girlfriend picks shoes easier than you pick turbos.
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Uh... no. not spearco. I know what a good fitting and properly functioning intercooler is. Unless they fixed their design from five years ago they are not on my list.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:21 AM   #165
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What's the issue w/Spearco? End tanks coming apart?
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:51 PM   #166
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I have a 20G-XT 8cm2 with a TMIC and it spools plenty fast for its size. I reached peak torque at 3800-3900 RPM on a road dyno.
Well this vid agrees with your numbers, peak spool @ 3.5K rpm pretty good !:

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Old 03-19-2012, 05:35 PM   #167
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What's the issue w/Spearco? End tanks coming apart?
Fitment sucks. It's just too big from what I've read.

The PW comes with a perfectly matching and well constructed splitter as well as a silicone y pipe, TB coupler and high quality hose clamps.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:45 PM   #168
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Thats the problem with forums, people recommending or condemning products based on what they read.... Amazing isnt it?! The Spearco is a great TMIC and I didnt have to base that off what I read from some regurgitated BS.
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Thats the problem with forums, people recommending or condemning products based on what they read.... Amazing isnt it?! The Spearco is a great TMIC and I didnt have to base that off what I read from some regurgitated BS.

So your suggestion is don't go off of what you read and research, just buy whatever part and find out for yourself?? That's ridiculous.
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So your suggestion is don't go off of what you read and research, just buy whatever part and find out for yourself?? That's ridiculous.
You have to take whatever info you get on the forums with a grain of salt though. Most of the time when you hear great praise for a product on here the only reason behind the praise is because they happen to be running the that part right now and it works. If doen't matter if that's the only TMIC, AOS, BCS, ect that they have tried... but as far as they know its the best untill it fails at least.

Those who can actually tell you how a part compares to another may actually have some insight as to why some parts may be better than others because they have a point of comparison with other products. Just because someone repeats what 8 others have heard second hand from there cousin on Nasioc doens't always make it true.
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Thats the problem with forums, people recommending or condemning products based on what they read.... Amazing isnt it?! The Spearco is a great TMIC and I didnt have to base that off what I read from some regurgitated BS.
So you're saying Dom's (Maxwell Power) opinion which is based on first hand knowledge tuning cars with the Spearco TMIC is regurgitated BS???
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Thats the problem with forums, people recommending or condemning products based on what they read.... Amazing isnt it?! The Spearco is a great TMIC and I didnt have to base that off what I read from some regurgitated BS.
It would be safe to assume this guy is running the Spearco TMIC
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^^ I get that. So what's the cut off?? If I read 10 posts from Spearco owners with 6 of 10 having fitment issues, is that good enough?
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So you're saying Dom's (Maxwell Power) opinion which is based on first hand knowledge tuning cars with the Spearco TMIC is regurgitated BS???
Exactly my point.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:56 PM   #175
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Well, I didnt really write anything you girls saying or assuming. I have in the past ran the Spearco on a couple different turbo setups and was very pleased with its performance. Flows well and is more then adequate for a street setup.
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