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Old 06-05-2012, 03:46 PM   #2651
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2 ALMS championships isn't so bad either.

I forget that a lot of the ppl in here are clueless about motorsports other than F1 sometimes.
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An Indy 500 win and 2 ALMS championships is nothing compared to what Indocti Discant's motor racing team has won
I still dont see an Indy 500 win on that wiki, just a IRL win at Watkins Glen.

I did not note the ALMs involvement.

My comment on them being a mediocre team still stands.

If I do have a racing team, with the lottery that is IRL and oval racing I would hope to have more than just 1 win over 20 seasons.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:12 PM   #2653
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Buddy Rice won the 500 for RLR in 2004.
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I couldnt see that in the original linked wiki, so I'll correct my statement.

a not very winning team.

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Old 06-05-2012, 04:46 PM   #2654
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I couldnt see that in the original linked wiki, so I'll correct my statement.

a not very winning team.

Good on ya
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:29 PM   #2655
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Good on ya
I like to learn and am always open to being corrected when I am wrong.

alonso still sucks though.

and bernie, bucket, donkey emissions.
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:43 PM   #2656
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I'm far from an Alonso fan boi but the guy can really hustle a car.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:52 PM   #2657
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I like to learn and am always open to being corrected when I am wrong.

alonso still sucks though.

and bernie, bucket, donkey emissions.
Your statements are rather extreme. It is fine that you don't like Alonso but you can't ignore what he has accomplished. Most experts consider him the best driver in F1 right now.

Bobby Rahal is a driver and owner I have never been a fan of and took him to task about 20 years ago in a radio interview when he dumped Honda just before Honda started winning but he has accomplished more then all but a very elite group. I give him respect for that. It was his car that went for the win at Indy this year. Watch Letterman's interview:

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Old 06-05-2012, 07:37 PM   #2658
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Circuit of the Americas Press Release today.

Tickets start going on sale June 10.

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Circuit of The Americas announces on-sale date and pricing for 2012 FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX™ reserved grandstand bleacher seats and general admission tickets
Three-day tickets to prestigious international event start at $159 and include round-trip shuttle service

Austin, Texas (June 5, 2012)– Circuit of The Americas today announced the date when members of the public can purchase three-day reserved grandstand bleacher seats and general admission tickets to the FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX™, set for Nov. 16-18, 2012. The soon-to-be-completed center for premium sports and entertainment in Austin, Texas, will host the return of the world-famous Formula 1™ racing series to the United States for the first time in five years. Three-day reserved grandstand bleacher seats and general admission tickets to the highly anticipated event go on sale Sunday, June 10, at 10 a.m. EDT, at www.CircuitofTheAmericas.com/tickets.

Three-day general admission tickets are priced at an affordable $159 per person and allow fans to choose their views of the action from several grassy berms and spacious public areas surrounding the 375-acre state-of-the-art facility designed by Tilke GmbH, the famed German architectural company known for its work on signature F1™ circuits. Three-day reserved grandstand bleacher seats range in price from $269 to $499 per person and offer guests spectacular views from vantage points around the 3.4-mile racetrack, including Turns 2, 3, 4, 5, 11 and 12.

Prices for reserved grandstand bleacher seats depend on location and are detailed in the table that follows (see supplemental table with comparable 2012 Grand Prix grandstand reserved seating pricing on page 3). All three-day reserved grandstand bleacher seats and general admission tickets include round-trip shuttle bus transportation from three designated park-and-ride locations in the greater Austin area. Shuttle bus pick-up/drop-off locations include the corner of 15th Street and Trinity Street in downtown Austin, the Travis County Fair and Expo Center at 7311 Decker Lane, and at a location in southeast Travis County that will be announced this summer.

Seating Area Three-Day Ticket Price Per Person
General Admission $159
Grandstand - Turn 11 $269
Grandstand - Turns 2, 3, 4 and 5 $299
Grandstand - Turn 12 (lower rows) $399
Grandstand - Turn 12 (upper rows) $499

“Formula 1™ fans and motorsports enthusiasts around the world have eagerly anticipated this news, and we’re excited to launch public ticket sales for our inaugural event in the next few days,” Circuit Chief Marketing and Revenue Officer Geoff Moore said. “We have options to fit every pocketbook.

“Information provided by the public was crucial as we finalized prices for the 2012 FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX™. We received fan input from extensive customer surveys and through market research from other Grands Prix and comparable premier, international, multi-day sporting events. In the final analysis, we wanted to make this event affordable to F1 fans around the country. Whether they want a reserved seat or the freedom to explore our expansive facility with a general admission ticket, they will enjoy great views and amenities.”

FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX™ tickets go on sale Sunday, June 10, 2012, at 10 a.m. EDT. To select and purchase tickets, fans should visit www.CircuitofTheAmericas.com/tickets, www.ticketmaster.com (use the search terms “Circuit of The Americas” or “Formula 1 United States Grand Prix”), or dial the Ticketmaster hotline,800.745.3000, to review available options.

Customers interested in premium seating options, such as personal seat licenses with season tickets and on-site parking, can submit information through the “Tickets” section of Circuit’s official website and will be contacted by a sales representative for more information. Circuit of The Americas sales representatives are available Monday through Friday, from 8:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. CDT at 512.301.6600.

Additional information about Grand Prix transportation and travel packages, facility hours of operation, special events and entertainment, and items permitted inside Circuit of The Americas during the FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX™ will be announced in the coming weeks.

About Circuit of The Americas

Circuit of The Americas will be a world-class destination for performance, education and business. It will be the first purpose-built Grand Prix facility in the United States designed for any and all classes of racing, from motor power to human power, and be the U.S. home to the 2012 FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX™ Nov. 16-18 and V8 SUPERCARS.

The Circuit of The Americas’ master plan features a variety of permanent structures designed for business, education, entertainment and race use. Its signature element will be a 3.4-mile circuit track. Other support buildings will include an expansive outdoor live music space, a conference center, a banquet hall as well as a state-of-the-art medical facility. Future proposed amenities include a driving/riding experience, a motorsports driving club, kart track, grand plaza event center and tower, and a trackside recreational vehicle park. For more information and downloadable video, audio and photos, visit: www.CircuitofTheAmericas.com.



2012 Formula 1™ Grand Prix Three-Day Grandstand Reserved Seat Pricing Comparison*

Monaco $520
Brazil $394
Britain $351
Australia $324
United States $269
Canada $264
Europe $247
Spain $234
Belgium $208
Singapore $195
Germany $194
Malaysia $179
Italy $169


















*Prices listed are the lowest-priced grandstand seating options for the Grands Prix specified in the table.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:18 PM   #2659
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Your statements are rather extreme. It is fine that you don't like Alonso but you can't ignore what he has accomplished. Most experts consider him the best driver in F1 right now.

Bobby Rahal is a driver and owner I have never been a fan of and took him to task about 20 years ago in a radio interview when he dumped Honda just before Honda started winning but he has accomplished more then all but a very elite group. I give him respect for that. It was his car that went for the win at Indy this year. Watch Letterman's interview:

http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_s...cD9YpSCV&nrd=1
they are also very tongue in cheek. I guess it hasn't been that evident on this forum but I also believe him to be one of the best in F1, if not Schumacher like in extracting the most out of a car.

Has Rahal only been with Letterman? or has he had another team?
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:03 PM   #2660
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I see you really paid attention to that wiki page you had up...
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:44 AM   #2661
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Robert "Bobby" Woodward Rahal (born January 10, 1953 in Medina, Ohio) is an American auto racing driver and team owner. As a driver, he won three championships and 24 races in the CART open-wheel series, including the 1986 Indianapolis 500. He also won the 2004 Indianapolis 500 as a team owner for the winning driver, Buddy Rice.

After retiring as a driver, Rahal held managerial positions with the Jaguar Formula 1 team and also was an interim president of the CART series. Rahal was also a sports car driver during the 1980s, and made one NASCAR start for the Wood Brothers.
When Rahal was running the Jaguar F1 team, he nearly pulled off snagging Adrian Newey from McLaren. In fact Newey had already signed the contract to work for Jag, when Ron Dennis was able to persuade him not to go. Newey had worked as Rahal's race engineer in Indycar.
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AH yes, Jaguar the winning team.

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Old 06-06-2012, 12:11 PM   #2663
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AH yes, Jaguar the winning team.

That team is the reigning champion in both drivers and constructors at the moment.

You might consider changing your user name to just Indocti.
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:33 PM   #2664
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That team is the reigning champion in both drivers and constructors at the moment.

You might consider changing your user name to just Indocti.
it's also 7 years later down the road after many multiple iterations. That's quite the leap you are making in connecting Rahal to RBR's dominance in the past couple of seasons.

I am shocked as to what it not considered mediocre.

To me mediocre is a team that is mid-pack at best.
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in other news Rubens Barrichello is responsible for Williams recent surge in performance.
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*1 Indy 500 win (as a driver) & 3 CART titles.
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*1 Indy 500 win (as a driver) & 3 CART titles.
But is that Rahal as a driver, or Rahal as a team?

My comment was an off the cuff, humorous remark on the results demonstrated by Rahal Letterman in IRL and CART.

You guys really got your jimmies rustled.
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My jimmies were rustled since I have Rahal's autograph.
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My jimmies were rustled since I have Rahal's autograph.


I have DCs autograph, but I still dont get my jimmies rustled when people point out his overall mediocre career.
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I have DCs autograph, but I still dont get my jimmies rustled when people point out his overall mediocre career.
What?

DC Won Monaco twice, Monza, Imola, Interlagos etc...

Being an F1 driver in a team like McLaren and winning many races at multiple famous tracks around the world is mediocre?

I agree he is not in the same league as Alonso but give him some credit

You would really trash my driving career if you think that a multimillionaire multiple race winner like DC had a mediocre career
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What?

DC Won Monaco twice, Monza, Imola, Interlagos etc...

Being an F1 driver in a team like McLaren and winning many races at multiple famous tracks around the world is mediocre?

I agree he is not in the same league as Alonso but give him some credit

You would really trash my driving career if you think that a multimillionaire multiple race winner like DC had a mediocre career
my point exactly. I ****ing adore DC. but at the end of the day overall he is a mediocre driver. I was a staunch DC supporter till RBR let him go. I did get tired of his "this is my year speech" that he gave every year. 2000 was a great season though that (from my recollection which is biased my man crush for him) Mclaren screwed him over by supporting Mika as the #1 driver.

I dont think you guys realize what mediocre really means. Anything under a 7.5 on a scale of 1-10 is by my definition mediocre. DC prob is getting the short end of the stick though.
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I'm very much looking forward to engines being part of the discussion in F1 again: http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2012/0...014-f1-engine/

1.6L turbo? Yes, please. Trickle down tech into road cars? Yes, please!
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I'm neither yay, or boo on that. I rather just see trickle down tech / high tech innovation.
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just a thought, not even sure if I thought this all they way through.

With the new engines, and the FIA throwing any idea possible at the sport to make it more exciting. I was thinking aobut a different approah to force teams to make more responsible choices. Until now they have been using the regulations to specify how many new engines teams can use. What if they took away the limit on new engines, and just put a 5 grid spot penalty when ever they wanted to put a new/different engine in the car.

I don't know if im going about this idea correctly, but the idea is to tie spending to something that can help smaller teams. Someone said it earlier, the bigger teams can afford to try a couple different things with the engines, and see what works. If you have a smaller budget, you need to wait and see what is working for the other guys, and then make some changes, so you limit your risk and spending a bit. But you are also behind the curve.

And since everyone would forced to change engines at some point, it ties your strategy to the entire season. It also could force teams to try a different race strategy each weekend. To compensate for the starting position. On a side note, the tire limit would need to be revised also. Why limit tires, let teams use as many as they want, they are paying the pit stop penalty already?
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