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Old 01-08-2012, 10:48 AM   #301
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Also on BBC, great feature pieces and pitwalks before each quali and race, gridwalk, post race forum, no ads, HD. I'm very open to see what Sky has to offer in comparison this year. Could be even better.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:50 AM   #302
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The USGP people better pony up the cash! That'd be a pretty big bummer to not have it happen, after all the hype. I'd really like to hear the V8's wailing in person before they are replaced.

I hope next season will have closer races between the front runners.

Happy to see Kimi back in F1.
The 8's are sweet to hear. But pale in comparison to the 10's at 20000+
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:36 AM   #303
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When I think "Senna" I immediately think "Honda".
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:01 PM   #304
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For you guys saying the BBC crew is better, no thanks. Brundle never shuts his mouth and is extremely opinionated, which would be fine if he still played the analyst part, but he doesn't. I haven't heard who Sky is going with, but hopefully Ben Edwards gets his chance, because he's long overdue for an F1 gig. I do agree that Speed's lineup is stale. Bob seems like he's checking out a little bit mentally. From what little I saw of Hobbs this year, he's not stuttering and repeating other people as much as 2010, but it's still annoying. Leigh Diffey, Tommy Kendall, and Matchett would be dynamite. Failing that, I'd love to see Marshall Pruett in Matchett's role. Just keep Scott Pruett away.
It's Brundle and David Croft.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...eve-Rider.html
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Working alongside the commentary duo, Anthony Davidson will join Croft in the box for practice sessions while Natalie Pinkham and Ted Kravitz will be based out on the pitlane with the latter also co-presenting a post-event show with Sky Sports regular, Georgie Thompson.

Fronting the entire package will be Simon Lazenby. "Our first approach was to go for the biggest name in our territory of F1 broadcasting and that is Martin Brundle because of his reach and his almost universal popularity. He is, we think, an amazing signing and somebody I've been watching for the last fifteen years become the wise man of F1," said Sky Sports executive producer Martin Turner.

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Race commentator: David Croft
Co-commentator/analyst: Martin Brundle
Race day presenter: Simon Lazenby
Magazine show presenter: Georgie Thompson
Reporters: Natalie Pinkham, Ted Kravitz
Practice session analyst: Anthony Davidson
Interviewer: Steve Rider

"In Brundle we have the outstanding F1 broadcaster – on the track and in broadcasting, he's proved it time and again. Working alongside him, David Croft is a passionate, experienced commentator and Anthony Davidson can bring great technical knowledge to live practice sessions. "The great thing about David is that, having covered every grand prix for the last five years, he's very current, already has an enormous fan base, and is an exceptionally knowledgeable and passionate commentator."

Sky also announced that Steve Rider, who fronted ITV's Formula One coverage between 2006-2008, will be responsible for presenting a series of interviews and features with current and past drivers.
"Ted Kravitz has huge knowledge of the pitlane and paddock and he and Natalie Pinkham will get the information and access our viewers need," added Turner. "And guiding us through the coverage we have the experience of Simon Lazenby and Georgie Thompson. Each has hosted major sports events, from the British Lions to the Ryder Cup – they have trust and respect."

The 2012 Formula One season gets underway at the Albert Park circuit in Melbourne, Australia on the weekend of March 16-18 and will conclude on the weekend of November 21-23 at the Interlagos track in Sao Paulo, Brazil.


I like that they're throwing some sexy in there. I also think Martin's commentating is top notch and I'm glad he made the jump.
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:06 PM   #305
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Doesn't make any sense that the Ferrari would look like the Red Bull. Certainly not as RB is starting over this year with blown exhausts banned and their entire RB7 was designed around that one feature.
They had some other tricks up their sleeve, I believe. Did anyone else hear vettels engine on starts? I think there was only two occasions where they had his on-board camera running.....sounded like some sort of launch control to me! The one I can remember was brazil. Sounded VERY strange!!!
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:10 PM   #306
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Agreed, Sky is throwing the kitchen sink at it. Looking forward to them trying to keep the frankly spectacular production value of the BBC coverage.

Now that Croft is moving to the front line alongside Brundle at Sky, I just read that James Allen will be taking over Croft's role as 5 Live commentator for practices and race. I really enjoyed putting 5 Live free practices on in the background when I was at home working in the garage etc.
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:14 PM   #307
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That was such garbage when they pulled that on Massa, but hey there are no team orders in F1.....
Yeah. Does anyone really NEED to tell massa he's slower!
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:18 PM   #308
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punting into other cars while in the heat of a championship battle without really thinking things through is more Schumacher then Senna.
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Old 01-08-2012, 03:06 PM   #309
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Just keep Scott Pruett away.
the only man capable of ruining what promises to be a great season of Grand Am...ugh.

Crofty is great but I'm going to miss him with Anthony Davidson for the 5Live podcasts...


I wonder what Speed's TV numbers would be if they also streamed the race without commentary.

Watching an entire Grand Prix feed without any commentary would be the best thing ever.

Does anyone here actually need someone to tell you what's what? Aside from Buxton's "interviews" from pitlane during the race I can't think commentary adds much other then noise.
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Old 01-08-2012, 03:37 PM   #310
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I wish the FIA would just stream all the on board cameras, and you could watch 2 or 4 of them on split screen of the guys you wanted to follow.
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:57 PM   #311
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I wish the FIA would just stream all the on board cameras, and you could watch 2 or 4 of them on split screen of the guys you wanted to follow.
That's FOM, not the FIA holding back on the footage I believe.

I'm surprised it took F1 so long to broadcast HD too.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:16 PM   #312
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do people forget Bernie's first go at F1HD in the mid nineties that never quite took off?
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:29 PM   #313
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:50 PM   #314
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The 8's are sweet to hear. But pale in comparison to the 10's at 20000+
The V10's never revved to 20,000. The first motor to hit the 20,000 mark was the Cosworth V8 during testing.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:45 AM   #315
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The V10's never revved to 20,000. The first motor to hit the 20,000 mark was the Cosworth V8 during testing.
The hondas were OVER 20 for the tast v-10 race. And over 1000hp.
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At the end of the 2006 competition season, both NASCAR Cup and FIA Formula One engines had reached pinnacles of crankshaft speed for their respective classes of motorsport: 10,000 and 20,000 RPM respectively. Although operating at these RPM levels has since been outmoded by regulation (NASCAR’s ever more stringent use of its ‘gear rule’ and the FIA’s 19,000 RPM rev limit introduced in 2007, reduced to 18,000 RPM for 2009), it seemed interesting to compare these very different engines to see what, if any, areas of commonality might exist.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:59 AM   #317
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^^ just one of the articles you can find on line, if you try.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:01 AM   #318
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The hondas were OVER 20 for the tast v-10 race. And over 1000hp.
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At the end of the 2006 competition season, both NASCAR Cup and FIA Formula One engines had reached pinnacles of crankshaft speed for their respective classes of motorsport: 10,000 and 20,000 RPM respectively. Although operating at these RPM levels has since been outmoded by regulation (NASCAR’s ever more stringent use of its ‘gear rule’ and the FIA’s 19,000 RPM rev limit introduced in 2007, reduced to 18,000 RPM for 2009), it seemed interesting to compare these very different engines to see what, if any, areas of commonality might exist.
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Uh, the V8 era started in 2006. Cosworth's V8 was running at 20,000 RPM in late 2005 during testing. There is no record of a F1 V10 hitting 20,000 rpm.
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For you guys saying the BBC crew is better, no thanks. Brundle never shuts his mouth and is extremely opinionated, which would be fine if he still played the analyst part, but he doesn't. I haven't heard who Sky is going with, but hopefully Ben Edwards gets his chance, because he's long overdue for an F1 gig. I do agree that Speed's lineup is stale. Bob seems like he's checking out a little bit mentally. From what little I saw of Hobbs this year, he's not stuttering and repeating other people as much as 2010, but it's still annoying. Leigh Diffey, Tommy Kendall, and Matchett would be dynamite. Failing that, I'd love to see Marshall Pruett in Matchett's role. Just keep Scott Pruett away.
The nice thing about the BBC feed is that there aren't commercials, and its in English. I believe that is why people prefer it.
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They had some other tricks up their sleeve, I believe. Did anyone else hear vettels engine on starts? I think there was only two occasions where they had his on-board camera running.....sounded like some sort of launch control to me! The one I can remember was brazil. Sounded VERY strange!!!
They can't have launch control, the FIA mandates the ECU. The mapping is also locked down for a bit, so I doubt it was anything strange, it was just the sound of the blown diffuser.

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Does anyone here actually need someone to tell you what's what? Aside from Buxton's "interviews" from pitlane during the race I can't think commentary adds much other then noise.
I need some commentary to keep my ADD in check, but I would be fine with only two people.

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do people forget Bernie's first go at F1HD in the mid nineties that never quite took off?
I don't believe it was HD, but I believe it was PAL or something similar. It was clearer than what we got, which would make sense that it was PAL (568 lines versus the bastardized 480 we got). That failure (think it stopped in 2002 or 2003) is why it took so long for HD to catch on.
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Uh, the V8 era started in 2006. Cosworth's V8 was running at 20,000 RPM in late 2005 during testing. There is no record of a F1 V10 hitting 20,000 rpm.
From the last V10 race (2005 chinese grand prix)

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Old 01-09-2012, 10:57 AM   #322
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The nice thing about the BBC feed is that there aren't commercials, and its in English. I believe that is why people prefer it.
No doubt; the Beeb's coverage was/is excellent, Im just way to impatient to wait and download the coverage.

Sunday's I cant check SMS messages, FB, Twitter, etc because I HATE spoilers (which is silly because the same people win every race it seems...)
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I seem to recall from several years back (during the change to the 2.4 V8s) that the resonance internally of the V10 was preventing it from achieving more revs. The new (at the time) V8s didn't have this issue at the 20k mark, which was why they so easily got to and above it.

No, I am not saying that were not other issues with vibration/resonance with the V8...
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:51 AM   #324
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No doubt; the Beeb's coverage was/is excellent, Im just way to impatient to wait and download the coverage.

Sunday's I cant check SMS messages, FB, Twitter, etc because I HATE spoilers (which is silly because the same people win every race it seems...)
I feel your pain, but it's worth it to watch awesome coverage and on my time.

The first few races I'll probably DL both the Sky and BBC coverage to see which I like more. Chances are I'll be switching to Sky for their dedicated coverage to all races and for Marty.
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^ this doug. Probably Sky for me.
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