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Old 12-01-2011, 08:03 AM   #51
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Mine didn't and I ran 17-18psi on it for years.
Yeah, I am not sure what the problem was with mine. As soon as it would hit full boost it would squeal and the car would stumble all over the place.

Dealer replaced it under warranty. Of course now it doesn't matter as I am running an aftermarket TMIC since going to stage 2.

Guess mine was just a made on Monday or Friday intercooler.
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:10 AM   #52
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The 2.0 turbo WRX will most likely be my next car...can't wait!
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:44 AM   #53
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The 2.0 turbo WRX will most likely be my next car...can't wait!
Some of us already have a 2.0 Turbo WRX

(yes, I know completely different engine, but still funny)
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:26 PM   #54
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I would be more worried about the puny size of the intercooler rather than the plastic end tanks. Plastic makes for a perfectly smooth internal surface than cast aluminum which equals better flow while being lighter as well. Plastic is not necessarily cheaper though. It cost Ford more money to go with plastic intake manifolds for the Boss 302 Roadrunner engine than it would have cost to make them out of cast aluminum but it was done because of reasons I stated.
Yeah, but they repositioned the turbo the bottom end of the motor! No more 10,000F heat source 6 inches from the intercooler. The puny sized intercooler, should, could, in theory at least, function a little bit better than the current puny TMIC. Being a smaller powerplant than the current EJ255, the stock turbo is likely to be something along the lines of small 16g, or like a td05 19t (non STI). We don't know anything about this new motor yet, so maybe it has variable valve timing on both intake and exhuast, and maybe it doesn't need a large turbo to make the power that the current cars require to make their power. I'm just saying that maybe the motor is better than todays motor and it may not be so dependant on forced induction to make power, and therefore maybe the intercooler is sized just right for the amount of heat it will need to cool. I have't seen one in person, but the images I've seen of the 350hp turbocharged Taurus look small too, but its because its running with TD04s.

Also, there is no longer a super hot uppipe snaking up through the engine bay. Underhood temps, should, could, in theory, be cooler than the current design.

Just looked at the pics again, and does it look like to anyone that the exhaust housing is actually PART of the exhaust? Is that catalytic converter actually the same casting as the turbo hotside?

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Old 12-01-2011, 08:38 PM   #55
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WRX yes, STi - no..

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It was officialy said that the WRX and STI would have a 2.0 FB turbo engine.

pay attention at minute 10.20

Subaru Press Conference LA Auto Show - BRZ STi Concept Car and Company Direction - YouTube
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:35 PM   #56
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Moves 2 feet forward but 2 feet DOWN? I'll take it. Also, the turbo isn't _that_ heavy.
I agree weight is not the worry, but packaging constraints and possibly bigger overhang is. Look at 2010 Legacy, it's hideous and the front overhang is bigger than ever.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:45 PM   #57
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Some non-SOJ exec saying it doesn't make it true. Its not exactly first hand information, or an actual production model being debuted.

However, the FA20 is a 2.0, so using that shortblock with this 1.6 motor wouldn't be difficult at all to do.

That 1.6T will show up in something for sure, it has to in order to increase fuel economy numbers.
There is NO way subaru would allow a lie to come out at the debut of one of their prototypes. It's not only said it's also shown on the presentation.
that guy was given material to present, and that materila came from Subaru.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:45 PM   #58
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WRX yes, STi - no..
I really don't care about the STI
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:27 PM   #59
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There is NO way subaru would allow a lie to come out at the debut of one of their prototypes. It's not only said it's also shown on the presentation.
You were obviously born yesterday, so I'll give you a break on this.
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And you know this how? Who did it come from exactly? And who translated it for him?
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:08 AM   #60
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WRX will see (FB20T)
STI? Only known it will be "300+HP" according to the video presentation posted earlier. Could be the 1.6, but then again...
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:37 AM   #61
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I agree weight is not the worry, but packaging constraints and possibly bigger overhang is. Look at 2010 Legacy, it's hideous and the front overhang is bigger than ever.
legacy has less overhang (front and rear) than the previous gen.
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Old 12-02-2011, 12:36 PM   #62
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Well, I'm guessing if that turbo engine is the new Wrx engine it will fit right into a brz with little issue. That is if subaru decides to put it in of course. I'm sure subaru will hear our pleas. I would think the only issue is getting Toyota on board with the idea for their version of the brz. I don't think it would be a subaru exclusive offering if it is offered at all. I also don't see Toyota adding a turbo to their gt86 or whatever they call it in the US. I could see them offering engine tweaks and maybe displacement increase as a compromise
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:33 PM   #63
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This is going to be a very interesting thread...in 6 months

I am really excited to see what Subaru does with this engine...good times ahead!
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:18 PM   #64
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For the hardcore:

-Delete the A/C compressor
-Move the alternator to where the compressor once resided
-Rotate intake manifold
-Win!

Maybe too simplified, but I'm a big fan of the turbo placement on this model so far.
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:24 PM   #65
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legacy has less overhang (front and rear) than the previous gen.
and unclemat seems to have forgotten that the FB block is shorter than the EJ block, so with the turbocharger barely even poking out the front (does it even extend beyond the serpentine belts??) this is a non issue.
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:41 PM   #66
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legacy has less overhang (front and rear) than the previous gen.
Meh. Well 05-09 LGT have Canadian 5 mph bumpers, while 10 LGT+ have normal US spec 2.5 mph bumpers. So not a valid comparison.

2.5 mph bumpers (EDM/JDM) on 05-09 LGT are full 2 inches shorter.

I admit I forgot about the more compact nature of FB/FA motors. Anyway I totally like the front mounted turbo. I just hope there would be enough space to cram GT30R sized twinscroll snail
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:34 PM   #67
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Meh. Well 05-09 LGT have Canadian 5 mph bumpers, while 10 LGT+ have normal US spec 2.5 mph bumpers. So not a valid comparison.

2.5 mph bumpers (EDM/JDM) on 05-09 LGT are full 2 inches shorter.

I admit I forgot about the more compact nature of FB/FA motors. Anyway I totally like the front mounted turbo. I just hope there would be enough space to cram GT30R sized twinscroll snail
Current still has exactly .5" less overhang than the EDM/JDM previous gen.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:06 PM   #68
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Ok, I guess I did not scruntize specs. Would help if you linked source, because it certainly looks like it has 3 inches added in every direction, especially height. It's fat and massive.

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Old 12-02-2011, 07:18 PM   #69
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The current Legacy has the same turbo location, right? Seems like a great location to compliment a FMIC, I'm curious to see what the piping would look like.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:19 PM   #70
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It was said once earlier in this thread, but put the 1.6T in the XV and that will be my next car.

Extra special bonus if they add the 2.0D!
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:23 PM   #71
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I hope whatever engine they end up putting into the new STi is bolt-on into the previous gen's.
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:27 PM   #72
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Unless it has a boosted H6 making 400+hp, I'm buying a new 5.0
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1.6T @ 236HP for the BRZ
2.0T @ 265HP for the WRX
2.0T @ 311HP for the STi
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:23 AM   #74
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BRZ for me!
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:29 AM   #75
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1.6T @ 236HP for the BRZ
2.0T @ 265HP for the WRX
2.0T @ 311HP for the STi
If this is true, BRZ here I come.
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