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Old 11-30-2011, 12:21 PM   #1
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Ladies & Gents,

Moving to the Denver, CO area from Houston and just bought my Epic Pass for the slopes.

Planning to make the drive from denver to the slopes....do you think i ll be able to get by on an Ultra high performance all season like the Continental ExtremeContact DWS or should I go ahead and get myself a dedicated studless tire like the Dunlop Graspic DS-3???

Thanks to all those that answer...

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Old 11-30-2011, 12:28 PM   #2
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Hi there. I just moved from Fort Worth to Park City, UT. Last January I drove from Fort Worth to Winter Park for a little vaycay. The all-seasons did great--no crazy snow storm, just slush. On my way back I drove from Winter Park to Denver in blasting snow down the pass. I definitely skidded a few times. I sold my all-seasons when I moved to Park City and I am on Blizzaks now. I absolutely love them. I think all-seasons would do you well, but winter tires will give you that extra confidence. After all, the issue is not navigating bad weather, it's about avoiding dumb drivers in the bad weather. I'd say go with winters, especially with the Epic Pass. You're going to be up and down the pass a lot. Hope that helps.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:40 PM   #3
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Get snow tires. Don't chance driving rocky mountain passes in the winter on all seasons.
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:44 PM   #4
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Get snow tires. Don't chance driving rocky mountain passes in the winter on all seasons.
This. What's cheaper in the long run... a set of extra tires or a new car?

All seasons will get you by 90% percent of the time, but winter tires are damned cheap insurance against that other 10%.
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:49 PM   #5
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hhahaha.....all good posts....will be getting me a set of winters then....
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:58 PM   #6
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Winter tires a must. I live in Park City and work in SLC. I use to run all seasons all year long, when I got winter tires it made a huge improvement, my stopping distance was cut in half on ice and I could plow through deeper snow.

The thing is winter tires are made of a softer rubber so they grip better at colder temps. Even if you never drive during a snow storm they will save your ass on black ice.

I run my winter tires from end of October to beginning of May.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:04 PM   #7
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^^^ What they've said, they will save your ass from avoiding the recently moved Californians as the have the life altering experience with our snow. No offense to them lol, but really though yeah their expensive but you can get 3-4 seasons out of them and they really are worth it.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:13 AM   #8
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Nokain WR Have run them for five years, all year long. I get about two years out of a set or 25000 miles. They are z rated and spendy! But worth it.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:12 AM   #9
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heard the hakepelita (sp?) are the best of the best out there and blizzaks do great and are cheap. i drove up to idaho last year during that "stay inside or you'll die" blizzard with new hekepellitas and it was like there was no snow on the ground, still cruising at 75mph while all the trucks were creeping at like 30-40.

granted not the smartest speed when there's a whiteout but hindsight is always 20-20.


i currently just put on a set of dws's in a 245/40/18 and they are a little wider and taller than my worn out azenis so they rub on my rsti a little. dry grip is actually really really good, better than the heat-cycled cold azenis that's for sure, BUT they are way sploshy, like if i zig the wheel back and forth i can for sure tell they are flexing down there.

ride quiet and due to the softer sidwalls they ride much better.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:37 PM   #10
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Hmm, I mainly commute in the city. Should I get dedicated snow tires, currently on perreli p6's
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:38 PM   #11
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If you can drive intelligently there is 0 reason for snow tires in my opinion. I've only ever used all seasons and been through 8 seasons with no
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:09 PM   #12
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It just depends on how MUCH you actually drive.

If you drive a lot, you really are better off with dedicated snow tires. It's not that you are necessarily a sucky driver, but you can't say the same for the other idiots out there. If you are out with the morons in the snow all the time, it sure is nice to have that extra level of control when an SUV tries a Ken Block manuever in front of you on the freeway. If you can't stop, you become part of it.

With that said, I went with dedicated snows on the 3 this year. I have RS3s on the RPF1s and it just made more sense to me to get steelies with snows. I also had a dedicated set of snows for the Civic, which Ricky poo bought for his HX.

I went 3 winters in my Lincoln LS that was RWD with an open diff on 245 ZRs and I never crashed. You just have to hang in the pack of cars and pay attention to your surroundings. I finally put a set of snows on it for the last winter I had it was much more pleasant in the snow.

Until I actually drove a winter on dedicated snow tires I was always on the "you dont need snow tires" team. To each his own though.

One thing I will add though... snow tires take the fun out of winter. Maybe I am just getting old, but 10 years ago I would have been pissed not being able to drift sideways thru my entire neighborhood.
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:40 PM   #13
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Maybe I am just getting old, but 10 years ago I would have been pissed not being able to drift sideways thru my entire neighborhood.
True, this is a tradeoff. Most snows will still let you slide if you find deep enough snow, but you have to beat the plows to it.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:55 PM   #14
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True, this is a tradeoff. Most snows will still let you slide if you find deep enough snow, but you have to beat the plows to it.
So true....

But get some blizzaks. Cheap and safe. I drive home up to washington 2 times during the winter and I don't want to have to stop in oregon, idaho, nor washington to get through wintry conditions. But like everyone else said, the subby will be fine with either but with snow tires you are so much better equipt to avoid those dumb drivers.
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Old 12-02-2011, 12:10 AM   #15
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If you can drive intelligently there is 0 reason for snow tires in my opinion. I've only ever used all seasons and been through 8 seasons with no
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:48 AM   #16
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Word, I think I'll just stick to my p6's this season see how it goes " my first winter with a wrx"
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:11 PM   #17
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If you can drive intelligently there is 0 reason for snow tires in my opinion. I've only ever used all seasons and been through 8 seasons with no
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obviously everyone has their own experiences, and is entitled to their opinion, but there are many good reasons to run snow tires. For just one example, look at the tirerack test between all season and winter tires here. tl;dr summary: winter tires improve acceleration, braking and cornering when driving on snow. Additionally, winter tire tread compounds are designed to provide better dry traction in cold temperatures where all season compounds get hard and provide less traction.
can you get by on all seasons? sure. But if you are driving in snow and cold conditions and want better handling all around, get dedicated winter tires.
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