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Old 12-01-2011, 09:14 AM   #51
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Hmm the enthusiasts are going crazy over this thing as a 86/GT-86/FR-S but the sentiment here seems to be "underpowered"

Is this because the WRX/STI have conditioned the Subaru junkies to expect power?

This article explains the philosophy better than I can. The conscious effort here seems to not be focused on numbers, and to fill a niche in the market, as well as making something simple and basic that the buyer can build on if they choose.

All those clamoring for more power, is the 370Z, G37, Genesis Coupe V6 etc. not already enough choice? Or you just need the Subaru badge?

Not sure if this thing will be a wild success as there isn't really anything like it, though the RX-8 was close and that was not a big seller. Maybe this thing is like one of those manual trans diesel wagons all the Internet car d00ds say they would buy but never actually would.
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:18 AM   #52
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i like it but ill wait for the sti version
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:58 AM   #53
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To the best of my knowledge, Subaru hasn't released any information on what Sti spec would actually be for the BRZ. There rumors of a bump in power albeit not in the form of a turbocharged motor.
Top speed.com has released info on the Toyota gt-86 saying Subaru promised Toyota that they would produce a 300hp model.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:04 AM   #54
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Definitely looks like a Z4 without the quasi-pseudo-German engineering. Needs a turbo and a transfer case though.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:07 AM   #55
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All those clamoring for more power, is the 370Z, G37, Genesis Coupe V6 etc. not already enough choice? Or you just need the Subaru badge?
Those are all significantly larger, heavier cars.

While a significantly up-rated power-train would add maybe 200 lbs. to the BRZ, that would still result in a significantly smaller, significantly lighter, more focused car.

A 2900 lb. 280+ HP hard top the size of a Miata? Yeah, a G37/GC V6, etc. are absolutely nothing like that.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:08 AM   #56
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I think the real challenge would be trying to keeping a straight face while they try to explain. Ill give 3 or 4 do-overs to anyone who tries to explain it to me and fails before I tell 'em to just stop.

I have been contemplating getting back into a Subaru as a daily driver in the next year or so, but this thing is kind of a turn off from the brand if this is the direction they are going, to be honest :/
I hate to say it but I might have to start buying Mitsubishi
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:12 AM   #57
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They need to introduce a new paint color for this car. WRB is over played in Subarus. I'm sure it will be offered in several but a new color specific to the car would be awesome.

I wonder if Subaru is planning on getting into some different motorsports with this car? Maybe not since they don't even do WRC anymore
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:28 AM   #58
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I am very curious about the STI version.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:34 AM   #59
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They need to introduce a new paint color for this car. WRB is over played in Subarus. I'm sure it will be offered in several but a new color specific to the car would be awesome.

I wonder if Subaru is planning on getting into some different motorsports with this car? Maybe not since they don't even do WRC anymore


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Old 12-01-2011, 11:29 AM   #60
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:33 AM   #61
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rather drive my wife's turbo cruze RS then that, my 93 NA supra is gonna be able to out run it....

kind of like a genesis coupe, they look fast until you mash the accelerator....
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:13 PM   #62
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I think the real challenge would be trying to keeping a straight face while they try to explain. Ill give 3 or 4 do-overs to anyone who tries to explain it to me and fails before I tell 'em to just stop.

I have been contemplating getting back into a Subaru as a daily driver in the next year or so, but this thing is kind of a turn off from the brand if this is the direction they are going, to be honest :/
We're you turned off from Porsche when they introduced the Cayenne or the Panamera?
Have they been going in the direction of trophy wife wagons ever since?
Or have they continued to make even more bada$$ 911's than ever before?
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:17 PM   #63
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Anyone have the suspension specs on this car? mac strut?
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:48 PM   #64
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I like it. Car looks good. Sounds like a fun daily driver.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:57 PM   #65
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love the idea dislike the look it isn't Subaru enough but should be a blast to drive i imagine the FB/A?? to get a boost from teh aftermarket very soon after they hit the streets. YOu boost this thing to 300 at the wheels and similar tq numbers and youve got a problem on your hands (of the good variety)
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:14 PM   #66
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We're you turned off from Porsche when they introduced the Cayenne or the Panamera?
Have they been going in the direction of trophy wife wagons ever since?
Or have they continued to make even more bada$$ 911's than ever before?
Well said.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:24 PM   #67
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I wonder how hard it would be to swap a 257 in...
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:59 PM   #68
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I don't understand all the depression over N/A. I'd love to see how far Subaru could take a flat 4 without a turbo. Honestly if the STI version was a 2.5N/A with 260hp and around 215 ft/lbs I'd be a happy camper. Remember all of that's going to the rear
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:07 PM   #69
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:28 PM   #70
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Put a turbo motor in it and un gay the tail lights and I'll take one.
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:22 PM   #71
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...un gay the tail lights and I'll take one.
Says the guy that drives a Rav4. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:24 PM   #72
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Lol, point taken. I don't care how gay my practical car is, more so on fun car .
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:35 PM   #73
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If it had an H6 3.6 turbo or supercharged motor now that would be so beast and fun
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:37 PM   #74
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Subaru will not produce an STi version for the first year. Historically, automakers wait a year or two for the cream of the crop version to bring the model back to life with consumers.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:11 PM   #75
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it looks like a 350z??
Maybe a Z4 coupe?





Regardless, I like it.

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