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Old 12-02-2011, 02:58 PM   #101
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I'm curious how you "know"
cause when i bought my bugeye in 01 as a 02, i was told NO STi this and that. No Evo coming bla bla.... So i know now to wait a year or two before i buy a new platform car. lol


This car wont see a turbo....It will see a supercharger. They dont want to screw with the throttle response.

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Old 12-02-2011, 03:04 PM   #102
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Default BRZ pricing announced + first test drive review

Some news for those following the BRZ:

Pricing @ $24k (base trim) and $27k (premium trim) - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2579

First BRZ test drive review - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596

Pricing seems very positive. Anything which starts under $25k is a great price IMO.

Review also seems positive. Only hesitation seems to be about the electric power steering. But steering is a bit subjective afterall.
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:33 PM   #103
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finally they didn't create another car that looks like a corolla....
This time they created a car that copied the Koreans "FAIL"
To mimic the words of the great George Carlin "Toyota has once again contributed to the pussification of the Japanese automobile, with its conservative and bland designs"

I can already see Clarkson ripping it a new ass in Top Gear Season 18

Toyota is following the same business principles GM started in the mid 70's until its BK status in 2009, the production of cheap disposable vehicles with no heart or value
AKA: The Chinese method of consumer products.

(Typhoon, Cyclone, Grand National, Camaro SS, Impala SS, C5, C6, CTS-V, G8, GTO, Full Size SUV's and Trucks excluded)
The only difference is unlike GM, Toyota builds efficient and reliable engines for the entire lineup.
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:42 PM   #104
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1) somebody on the first page has to be the cool guy and say it sucks
2.) later on the first page somebody calls them an idiot and says they don't matter
3.) the second page rolls around and people are already planning turbo swaps
4.) nobody cares for the na version because we all know subaru is reading this forum and is going to release an STI version within a year
5.) by the third page people have complained how it looks like this, this, or that. At least 1 person said the tail lights are stupid in chrome, and somebody has compared it to a 370z, a bmw, or a genesis coupe.
6.) by the 4'th page people are regretting buying their 2011 subaru and ready to trade up to the BRZ, and get into more debt just to be among the first.

this guy right here , knows exactly whats up! i couldnt have said it better!

IMHO the BRZ is an amazing car , its different from anything subaru has tried and im really looking forward to the FUTURE of the car. stop complaining guys you know damn well you want one!
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Old 12-02-2011, 03:55 PM   #105
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cause when i bought my bugeye in 01 as a 02, i was told NO STi this and that. No Evo coming bla bla.... So i know now to wait a year or two before i buy a new platform car. lol


This car wont see a turbo....It will see a supercharger. They dont want to screw with the throttle response.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-e...nce-gt-86.html
The Toyota version might see a blower, but the Subaru version will be turbo.

Check out the link:
http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...86fr-sbrz.aspx

Subaru has already developed a 1.6L turbo version of the engine that looks exactly the same as the 2.0L engine from what I can tell. Why would they develop a supercharged version when they already have everything to go turbo?

My guess, STI version will be turbo with bigger brakes, retuned suspension, standard STI tweaks. I'm guessing ~2850lbs, 300hp, RWD. There's nothing in the market short of a Porsche Cayman to compete. It'd be like a modern day Nissan Silvia.
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:16 PM   #106
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I think the real challenge would be trying to keeping a straight face while they try to explain. Ill give 3 or 4 do-overs to anyone who tries to explain it to me and fails before I tell 'em to just stop.

I have been contemplating getting back into a Subaru as a daily driver in the next year or so, but this thing is kind of a turn off from the brand if this is the direction they are going, to be honest :/
The direction they are going? Adding a Model is not a "direction". It's simply a New Model. The only things that have changed lately are more standard tech in the cars (bluetooth in premium models, etc.), more head and leg room from 2009-2010 and 2012 redesigns, 2012 Impreza most fuel efficient AWD vehicle. What has stayed the same? Sales increases across the nation every year, Highest Residual Value by ALG for mainstream brands, AWD in all models but the new limited production BRZ, safety features (like airbags including side curtain) - 4 wheel disc brakes - ABS brakes standard in ALL MODELS AND TRIMS (you don't have to pay more for the best safety unlike some Makes). Sounds like a good direction to me.

spdracerut, Thanks for that link. Sweeeet. Maybe that will stop most of the criticism. Holy negativity, Batman.

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Old 12-02-2011, 05:00 PM   #107
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It does look pretty good. I just wish they could have put it on a little bit more of a diet. A Miata-sized car should weigh around 2500 lbs, not 2800. 200 hp is nice, but imagine how much quicker it would have been if they had reduced the weight by 10% and kept the same motor.

I'm curious what this new motor is going to feel like, as well. It's going to be WAY different than the current 2.5L N/A motor that powers a lot of their lineup. I've seen specs around other places on the internet that it's going to make peak torque of 150 ft-lb at 6600 RPM and peak hp of 197 hp at 7000 RPM. That sounds more like a Honda power curve than the torquey, but not particularly high-revving Subaru motors we're used to.
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:58 PM   #108
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Definitely want, but I'm not going to jump on it like most fanboys. I'll wait for the 2nd gen BRZ.
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:45 PM   #109
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Some news for those following the BRZ:

Pricing @ $24k (base trim) and $27k (premium trim) - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2579

First BRZ test drive review - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596

Pricing seems very positive. Anything which starts under $25k is a great price IMO.

Review also seems positive. Only hesitation seems to be about the electric power steering. But steering is a bit subjective afterall.
That price is not official obviously. Last I heard they were targeting WRX prices, but until Subaru says it I would take that with a grain of salt. The source is a guy who tweeted it. Yeah he's from Motor Trend, but it isn't even on Motor Trend online which shows how much they stand behind that data.
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:55 PM   #110
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Needs turbo, a scoop, wider stance and lower springs
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:08 PM   #111
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All I see is : blah blah blah ...... boxer featuring Toyota’s direct-injection system .......blah blah blah

When are they bringing that to the rest of the lineup?
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:12 PM   #112
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That price is not official obviously. Last I heard they were targeting WRX prices, but until Subaru says it I would take that with a grain of salt. The source is a guy who tweeted it. Yeah he's from Motor Trend, but it isn't even on Motor Trend online which shows how much they stand behind that data.
Very true. I don't see the base being over $25k though. After all, scion will have their version and scions were created to be the cheaper car side of Toyota. It would be odd to have the subaru version be drastically more then its counterpart and it would be equally as odd to have a scion severely out price a Toyota.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:31 PM   #113
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The word in the dealership is Damn close to those numbers, price wise that is.

Should be a blast to drive
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:49 PM   #114
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2.5+turbo and this would be a great bmw/370z look alike
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:44 PM   #115
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Five different BRZ first drive reviews out in one day. ALL positive (some extremely).

BRZ review compilations - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2498

But the most positive one I've seen on any of these cars is the EVO review, which completely gushed about the Toyota 86 - http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...ota_gt_86.html

And one of the BRZ reviews called the steering better than anything out there, short of a Lotus. I'm even more psyched for the BRZ after the initial impressions.
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:35 AM   #116
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Being a former 240SX owner this is pretty cool news to me, however I would hold out for a turbo model because 200HP even in a 2600lb car gets old pretty quickly, especially if the handling is there already.

At that weight the car should be around the 300HP, in order to go from being a neat little car to awesome machine.
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:29 PM   #117
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:42 PM   #118
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:50 PM   #119
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For a2012 low-production niche car, I expected a little more. But it's alright I guess. Part of selling a sports car with unimpressive horsepower numbers is going to put a large dependency on the cosmetics/looks.. and lookwise it's not that great for a sports car. Sports car in this day and age need to look "sexy" .. Can't wait to see the track numbers... if it's AMAZING then maybe it can grab attention from hardcore handling enthusiasts rather than the typical sports-car fanbase which desire "sexy and powerful" - This is exactly why the Scion FRS at the LA Auto show gained a lot more buzz and attention from the masses over the Subaru BRZ STI concept, even though essentially the BRZ STI is in theory the better performing car between the two.

This is going to be a fun task for the marketing manager(s) over at Subaru

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Old 12-04-2011, 11:49 AM   #120
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I doubt it will be a 2.5. This new 2.0 is an FA motor, which will be replacing the old FB. Which could be a great thing, to see the STi lose the 2.5, and gain the high-revving 2.0 that has been offered in the JDM STi's. The 2.0 is a much smoother motor and in the reviews Subaru said that the BRZ does not have the room for turbo-charging. But looking at the engine bay shots, not much ingenuity would be needed to accomplish that goal. Looks like I'll be keeping my bugeye or getting a hawkeye in the mean time until they release the second model year.

And from every review, MotorTrend, Top Gear, etc. they are praising the hell out of this car, and how it drives.
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:26 PM   #121
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Wow...really wanted a '11 STi, but I might wait for one of these. IF it is as light as they say, it will be a blast to drive. With an STi powerplant, that is hopefully a high-reving 2.0 like the JDM motors, it will truly scream. Plus it's an attractive car
They are completely different cars... why would you consider switching if you were shopping for a four (five) door AWD turbo car?!
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They are completely different cars... why would you consider switching if you were shopping for a four (five) door AWD turbo car?!
I was more looking for a new Subaru performance platform. I don't really need AWD in NC, and 4 doors is not a must. The BRZ is more of a "sports car" rather than a rally ready car, and more capable in the handling department. I'll most likely pick up a hawkeye to replace my bugeye, since I don't want to source a 6 speed, Brembos, etc. And wait a few years to pick up a BRZ. I am really excited to see how Subaru handles the STi version of the BRZ and what the aftermarket can do with the platform.
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