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Old 06-08-2015, 03:28 PM   #1
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Can't decide on who to go with for an e-tune. Read tons of positive things on both. Car is currently road tuned by Clark Turner for both e85 and 91 (local to me here in Phoenix), but the 91 tune knocks like crazy, brings the DAM down to .688, etc. Emailed Clark about it and he thinks it's the car, and not his tune (although the e85 tune is flawless and runs perfect). Literally said "car was perfect when I tuned it and now you bought it and it's not running right? Seems fishy..."

Needless to say, I won't be going with Clark for the re-tune.

Car is a 2013 WRX with the following mods:

AEM CAI
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Not trying to break any records here, just want a reliable and consistent tune for daily driving.

Have been emailing between Bren and TP and both are awesome, super fast replies, and very eager to help.
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Old 06-08-2015, 03:49 PM   #2
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Bren has tuned my car 3 times. After a few years of not seeing me, I went to visit when my buddy was getting his 14 WRX tuned, recognized me right away. Blown away with how nice and that he remembers faces.
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Old 06-08-2015, 09:11 PM   #3
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Eric is great
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:33 AM   #4
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Just finished a Stage 2 tune with Eric at TP. After three revisions, the car runs better than it did from the factory with decent power. If you look at all of the reviews on this forum, you will see that everyone loves his tunes.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:53 AM   #5
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I used Torqued Performance when I had my 2012 and Bren. Both produce great power and reliable tunes but I felt Eric at Torqued to be a bit more on a personal level with customer service and his turn around time was tremendous. But on the second hand, BT also has a large customer base so I think they pretty much stay busy 24-7. I think TP for eTunes, BT for dyno tunes.

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Old 06-09-2015, 11:19 AM   #6
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Ive had my TP tune for about 2-3 years, and have had the car in different elevations. I've been happy with it since day 1 and if I add any more parts I always ask Eric if he has tuned with them before I purchase.
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Old 06-09-2015, 11:22 AM   #7
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Yeah I'm leaning towards Torqued but both look awesome from all the reviews I've read. Never seen a disappointed customer with either tuners.
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:15 PM   #8
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I have ran TP tunes since 2011. went stage 3 over a year and when seasons changed etc, I email Eric with some data logs and he fixes me right up. Bren has a good reputation as well.
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Old 06-09-2015, 03:15 PM   #9
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Biggest difference that isn't being discussed here though is price. There is a big price difference between TP and BT and being they both are good, the answer is easy.
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Old 06-09-2015, 03:23 PM   #10
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Biggest difference that isn't being discussed here though is price. There is a big price difference between TP and BT and being they both are good, the answer is easy.
They are both $200 for the Stage 3 e-tune for big injectors/EBCS/etc.
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Old 06-09-2015, 03:36 PM   #11
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Oh. I thought I remember his being cheaper. I know when I got my TP is was 85$ or something for the Stage 1/2 and $100 for Stage III. Although I didn't go stage III. Well for anything under stage II then, .
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Old 06-09-2015, 03:36 PM   #12
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Tough decision. I've never experienced Bren's tune, but a lot of people have good reviews about him.

Eric is amazing. He always gets back to you within 24 hours even on the weekends. He's always there to answer your questions. Even after a year of not keeping in contact with him, just recently I asked a couple of questions about my tune and he answers back and promptly. I always tip him for advice since he's such an awesome guy willing to keep his customers satisfied.
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Old 06-10-2015, 05:03 PM   #13
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I'm going to go with TP, thanks for all the help guys. Both are awesome tuners, but Eric just seems like the more personable guy here
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Old 06-13-2015, 05:11 PM   #14
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thanks for the tips and reviews on TP.
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Old 06-14-2015, 01:41 AM   #15
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Torque performance hear I come
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Old 06-14-2015, 01:41 AM   #16
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Eric is awsome fast response great prices about to get a etune stage 1
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Old 06-14-2015, 01:45 AM   #17
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Been working with Eric now for 2 days..already on Revision 6!

Lightning fast replies to every email and log I've sent, literally have new maps 20 min after sending logs (on a Saturday!!)

So far doing about 18.5psi, and even in this 105 degree Phoenix heat feels 1000x better than my Clark Turner POS 14psi tune.
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:59 PM   #18
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Been working with Eric now for 2 days..already on Revision 6!

Lightning fast replies to every email and log I've sent, literally have new maps 20 min after sending logs (on a Saturday!!)

So far doing about 18.5psi, and even in this 105 degree Phoenix heat feels 1000x better than my Clark Turner POS 14psi tune.
Yeah I'm in the same boat. Eric is the man! Took a few revisions when I put the new GS intake on. ( I think I was the first one haha) I can't believe the service you get from him. Car runs awesome compared to the ots maps
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:50 PM   #19
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I will agree that Eric is great at what he does. He tuned my wrx in January (replies within minutes every time without fail). I emailed him on Saturday as I fixed a boost leak and needed an updated tune. He responded right away with a modification to the logs I sent, and we did ~ 4 more logs with accompanying tune all within a couple of hours. I was extremely happy to have a new tune the same day.
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Old 06-19-2015, 09:52 PM   #20
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Anyone else having hesitation on a TP tune? I'm having some drive-ability issues on my '13 WRX stage 1 TP tune, stock air box.
Eric said the logs were good, no revisions needed.
Happens around 2500-3000 RPM under light load.

I know the STI has a hesitation problem but I thought the WRX was free of this issue.
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:21 AM   #21
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How many of you guys with Torqued Performance tunes are using a hybrid boost control setup? He's stuggling to get mine working correctly (GM ebcs and Grimmspeed mbc) and prefers one or the other. Most other reputable e-tuners don't seem to have a problem tuning the car so the ebcs handles partial throttle and lets the mbc control WOT but my experience has left something to be desired.

Bren requires wideband datalogging, which I'm incapable of currently, so that's my limiting factor.
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Old 06-20-2015, 03:15 PM   #22
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Anyone else having hesitation on a TP tune? I'm having some drive-ability issues on my '13 WRX stage 1 TP tune, stock air box.
Eric said the logs were good, no revisions needed.
Happens around 2500-3000 RPM under light load.

I know the STI has a hesitation problem but I thought the WRX was free of this issue.
Nope definitely haven't noticed this on my tune. How long have you been running the TP map? Only issue I have is af learning when it's 110+ degrees.
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Old 06-20-2015, 08:31 PM   #23
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Nope definitely haven't noticed this on my tune. How long have you been running the TP map? Only issue I have is af learning when it's 110+ degrees.
A few months now, logs still look good, but it just started as it got warmer out. I'm thinking about trying the STI stumble fix and seeing if that helps.
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Old 06-21-2015, 02:51 PM   #24
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Had my 04 tuned by Bren, runs better than I could have ever expected very impressed
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:51 AM   #25
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My DIT fa20 wrx 15 stage 1 TP four revisions and love it can wait to see the times at the drag strip next Fri hopefully 13.5 if it's cool enough like to hit 13.0
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