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Old 12-05-2011, 09:09 PM   #1
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Default Custom gauge cluster idea... Yay or Nay???

So call me paranoid, but I like to see as much of the "parameters" of my engine as possible. I like to know if and when anything is out of the ordinary so that I can catch a potential problem before it becomes catastrophic. With that said, I currently have just the boost gauge, my aquamist meth flow gauge, and a useless innovate wideband gauge. But I would like to pick up an oil temp and oil pressure gauge at the very least in the near future. At that point I will have a total of 5 gauges. Right now my boost and aquamist gauges are in the instrument cluster dual pod and the wideband is just loose for now because I can't think of what I want to do. I'm not a huge fan of the instrument cluster pod.. I don't like the fitment of it, and I don't like how it sits.

On to the next part of this. As dumb as it sounds, I'm constantly using my center clock (the clock on my radio is tiny and I hate searching for it when I want to know the time. So I really don't want to go with a gauge cluster either. And my last prefabricated option is an a-pillar pod... which I can't stand either because you'll never find one that is a perfect match (color and texture) to the factory. So that leaves me with only one option... custom pod.

Here is where it gets interesting and where i need your opinions. I layed it out with just the wideband and it seems like it will be a perfect fit. With my current steering wheel setup, which is how I keep it all the time, the top of the steering wheel matches the curve of the dash above the cluster perfectly and is eye-line to the top of the dash. So I was thinking of doing a custom pod to hold however many gauges I chose along that top curve of the dash. With the quick fit-up I did with the single gauge it seems like the custom pod would cover up just enough of the view that the stock scoop does already... so there would be no loss of vision out the windshield. Another plus side to it would be that everything would be front and center and there wouldn't be any need to change my sight direction from directly in front of me. Which seems like it is a perfect setup.

So what are your opinions???
1) are having gauges rice??? I personally think they are useful and worth it, especially on a modified vehicle, but some people may not agree...
2) What are your thoughts on the custom pod idea and if anyone has something similar pictures would be great so I can possibly visualize it further than just setting a single gauge up there.

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Old 12-05-2011, 11:28 PM   #2
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:28 PM   #3
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I wouldn't be so worried about not being able to see over them i'd be more worried about the amount of light they would be producing at night, blinding you from seeing the road.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:05 AM   #4
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Also, quite a few gauges can be replaced by an OBDII gauge tool. Keep this in mind as well, but a new mounting idea/setup is always welcome.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:14 AM   #5
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I wouldn't be so worried about not being able to see over them i'd be more worried about the amount of light they would be producing at night, blinding you from seeing the road.
I would be using the defi style gauges with the black background and red lighting... the red light seems to be a lot less of a strain on the eyes and they really don't give off that much light when illuminated; so I don't think it would be an issue (but you never know)

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Also, quite a few gauges can be replaced by an OBDII gauge tool. Keep this in mind as well, but a new mounting idea/setup is always welcome.
Sorry, its a 2004 STI with an FP Green, upgraded injectors, full suspension setup, H20/Meth injection, Mild GoToDom Tune. The engine internals are pretty much all stock... which is why its only a mild tune. But all upgrades were done by the previous owner, so I can't take any credit for any of it... hell, I'm still trying to learn what I can about this car...

I've really thought about the OBDII gauge tools... especially since the price of one would come out to be about the same as getting some decent higher end gauges. But mounting that would prove to be another issue... and I would like to find one that would show multiple displays since when driving, you don't really want to be fumbling around with buttons to check through everything.

A little more background on myself and the car, it is fully set up for autocrossing but at the moment it is mostly just a DD that I have some fun with once in a while. I would eventually like to get into autocrossing, but not until I have a 2nd mode of transportation besides my bike (just in case something were to go wrong). But even for daily driving I like to keep an eye on the aspects of my engine. Especially being an almost completely stock block (only a mild tune so its not a ton of stress on it, but still its enough)
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:32 AM   #6
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And that is exactly what I don't want. The only optimal viewing gauges are the a-pillar and that just looks completely out of place. I want something where all the gauges are together in a neat fashion and at an optimal viewing location.
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:43 PM   #7
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This may be way off base but I'm trying to think outside of the box. What if you deleted the LH sunvisor and made an overhead style pod? All the way to the glass and slightly slanted downward type of thing... just a thought.
My main concern with your idea is simply the light output. My clockpod's pretty bright. Granted I have green gauges that emit tons of light.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:03 PM   #8
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the clock pod is IDEAL for a scangauge II. Yes you give up the clock... but you end up with a constant display of 4 OBD parameters. Consider it...
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:15 PM   #9
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I don't mind if I give up the clock as long as I can put an analog 52mm clock somewhere visible (or a digital 52mm clock but I have yet to find one). I'll have to look into that scangauge.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:22 PM   #10
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looking at that scangauge, what type of system do the Subarus have?? trying to figure out exactly what parameters I'll have with the scangauge. I have an OBDLink right now that I can watch on my laptop, but thats not ideal for normal driving.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:06 PM   #11
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looking at that scangauge, what type of system do the Subarus have?? trying to figure out exactly what parameters I'll have with the scangauge. I have an OBDLink right now that I can watch on my laptop, but thats not ideal for normal driving.
yup, that's not too good for normal driving.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:37 PM   #12
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How many gauges are you looking to have? You could always do the center dash pod that replaces the clock then by a 52mm clock and put it where the left side air vent is. I've seen this done before, if done right it looks extremely clean and is well within vision.

Like this
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:57 AM   #13
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If I add up what I have now and what I want to add I'll have at least 5 (plus the 52mm clock) which is more than the center pod can hold. I would like to stick away from the vents also. My ideal would be to keep them all together for nice easy viewing and prevent having to keep turning my head in multiple directions.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:58 AM   #14
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I may try to find a banged up dash that was in a wreck or something and is no good so I can try out some different ideas. Anyone know of anything... trying to keep it as cheap as possible.
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Damn that looks awesome with all those gauges like a cockpit on a plane...Love it
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:29 AM   #16
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I don't mind if I give up the clock as long as I can put an analog 52mm clock somewhere visible (or a digital 52mm clock but I have yet to find one). I'll have to look into that scangauge.
Prosport makes a 52mm digital clock, it's like $45 shipped.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:08 AM   #17
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yea, but from what I've found, they only have it in blue and amber. I'd like to keep everything red if I can.... even though my aquamist isn't red either.... lol.

I am picking up a broken dash that I can help use as a template / practice piece and I will hopefully start getting to work on the pod in the near future. I'll make sure to take lots of pics and try to keep you all updated on the progress. I'm really hoping this turns out well. The only thing that I will have to take into account is the possibility of glare, so I may need to creat some sort of small "hood" over the gauges. Not really sure though since they will be fairly far forward...

Edit: The close I look at the picture... the amber may actually be pretty damn close to the red I have now. I'll keep it in mind.
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Old 12-07-2011, 12:18 PM   #18
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I had the same dilemma, I decided on HKS Camp2 to keep things clean.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:06 PM   #19
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As nice as that is, its way over my budget, and it still doesn't fix the issue of abnormal viewing.
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Ah, just noticed you have an 04. It was a little low for me in my 06 as well.

I think you could buy something like the Greddy Informeter and custom it into a Subaru clock gauge pod.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:33 PM   #22
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what about the a- pillar one, but then just paint both sides black or a similar color to what it is now that would look ok. not sure if it would look great but then they would match.
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:13 PM   #23
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The A-Pillar would be my other option as it is the next best visual location. But I think I'm going to give this a go first and see how it comes out. I'm really hoping it comes out as nice as I picture it. lol
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would a scan-gauge work for you? its fairly small and can display multiple data sets.
http://www.scangauge.com/products/scangaugeii/
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You can look into the ashtray delete cluster. Just did mine tonight..fits 2 52mm gauges and the cigarette lighter perfectly
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